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Ride London 100

Having done the Ride London 100 event for a National charity the last 2 years i decided to enter the ballot this year and do it for a more local charity with a personal connection.

A few weeks ago i received the notice that i had been unsuceessful and ever since i have been bombarded by emails offering me large charity places.

Clearly there are too many reserved large charity places as with only 4 months until the event they are struggling to fill their places.

I am not against the big National charitys and have supported them on many occasions but how do the smaller local charities get riders in this event.

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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CXR94Di2 | 5 years ago
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Ive done the RL for charity in the year of the great storm :).  Ive tried several times to get into the event via ballot-failed.  

I tried the Tour of Cambridgeshire last year and really enjoyed it-probably because its the same type closed road event, but without the hassle of riding with too many others.  The other plus is that the event starts later in the morning and I can travel there and back in the day without laying out hundreds for accomodation and trains.   Signed up again this year.   Also its a UCI qualifier if you've got the speed 

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antigee | 5 years ago
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Saw comment on another event saying handcycles and recumbents banned...shameful...whatever the perceived problem must be a way to sort it and allow access for all ...here's a good article from down under about a bigger than life hand cyclist completing the Bowral90 event ...from Oct18 so might have seen https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bicyclin...

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Crippledbiker replied to antigee | 5 years ago
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antigee wrote:

Saw comment on another event saying handcycles and recumbents banned...shameful...whatever the perceived problem must be a way to sort it and allow access for all ...here's a good article from down under about a bigger than life hand cyclist completing the Bowral90 event ...from Oct18 so might have seen https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bicyclin...

We're pretty much blanket banned from all events, on some nebulous grounds of undefined "safety".

Also, RideLondon keeps referring to handcycles as pedal cycles when, by definition, they have no pedals whatsoever. Minor irritant.

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dottigirl replied to Crippledbiker | 5 years ago
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Crippledbiker wrote:
antigee wrote:

Saw comment on another event saying handcycles and recumbents banned...shameful...whatever the perceived problem must be a way to sort it and allow access for all ...here's a good article from down under about a bigger than life hand cyclist completing the Bowral90 event ...from Oct18 so might have seen https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bicyclin...

We're pretty much blanket banned from all events, on some nebulous grounds of undefined "safety". Also, RideLondon keeps referring to handcycles as pedal cycles when, by definition, they have no pedals whatsoever. Minor irritant.

Recumbents weren't banned in 2017 - I started in one of the later waves with a load of them.

Saying that, they probably weren't doing the 100, just the 46.

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Crippledbiker | 5 years ago
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Are handcycles still banned with no good reason?

Quote:

Permitted cycles

The following cycles are permitted in the Prudential RideLondon-Surrey 100:

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There will be 100 tandems and 50 tricycles allowed this year. Preference will be given to riders with a disability. If you are a visually impaired or disabled rider and have been accepted via the ballot, you must contact assistedrider [at] ridelondon.co.uk in order to process your entry.
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Cycles that are not permitted

The following cycles are not permitted in the Prudential RideLondon-Surrey 100:

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Handcycles

Yeah, still banned, still no explanation why.

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alansmurphy | 5 years ago
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My rant was aimed more at those that masquerade a bloody nice holiday as a charity event and lots of the donated money is going to flights and set up fees!

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Jetmans Dad | 5 years ago
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For the first time this year, I am pondering whether to do RideLondon without raising money (in spite of feeling a bit guilty about that). I have done it three times before ... first time was my first ever century and I rode for Shelter, second time The Alzheimer's Society (very close to my heart as this was in memory of my Mum who suffered that horrible illness in her final years) and last time for two of the house charities at the school where I teach, as I got a place in the ballot for the first time, and I was combining it with VeloBirmingham in the same Summer for my first double century year.

Didn't do it last year (didn't even enter the ballot) but put in for this year's ballot on the off-chance (as I do really enjoy the ride) with no intention of signing up for a charity if I didn't get my own place, and duly got one ... not in the main ballot but the additional one for those who chose to donate their entry fee to the RL charity. 

To a point, I understand the point about not trying to raise money doing something you enjoy doing anyway, but one the other hand there are many people who raise money year after year running marathon after marathon, so I am not sure on that one. 

My current thinking is not to push fundraising on my friends and family but just to point them to a preferred charity if they want to make a donation anyway. 

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fukawitribe | 5 years ago
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I did wonder  3

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Nick T | 5 years ago
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Because I didn’t get in, obviously 

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fukawitribe | 5 years ago
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Whatever. Why are your knickers so bent out of shape ?

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Nick T | 5 years ago
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These aren’t typically non-cyclists trying to raise money and awareness for a charity that means something to them though - it’s people who want to ride to Box Hill like in the olympics on closed roads, didn’t win one of the artificially limited ballot places and then got strong armed into riding it for a charity. Which charity? Marie Curie? Sure, why not

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PRSboy | 5 years ago
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You can overthink sponsorship... I have no problem with giving a bit of cash to friends who are raising funds and awareness about a cause close to their heart.

I remember how I felt after doing my first 100 miler many moons ago when I was getting into the sport.  I've never felt so physically drained in my life. 100 miles or even 50 miles is a big deal when you aren't used to it.  

 

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Nick T | 5 years ago
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I would never have the gall to ask everyone I know to donate in order for me to do something I want to do anyway. 100 mile bike ride you say? Don’t you do that most weeks anyway? Oh this one’s supposed to be different, is it?

 

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kil0ran replied to Nick T | 5 years ago
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Nick T wrote:

I would never have the gall to ask everyone I know to donate in order for me to do something I want to do anyway. 100 mile bike ride you say? Don’t you do that most weeks anyway? Oh this one’s supposed to be different, is it?

 

I think it has to be a genuine challenge of the "oh fuck what have I signed up for" type. One that requires training and even then you might not make it - like a running marathon, or a full iron-man, or a 100-miler if you've not done one before.

I did RL46 a couple of years ago and it never crossed my mind to do that for charity - it was a stretch for me but something I'd done before. Now I've signed up to do a 100-miler (not RL) I am doing it for charity as I'm genuinely not sure I'll be able to complete it and will need the motivation. Longest ride to date is 60 miles so some serious training is required.

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Jetmans Dad replied to kil0ran | 5 years ago
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kil0ran wrote:

Longest ride to date is 60 miles so some serious training is required.

If you can do 60 miles, doing 100 should not be an issue. 

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LastBoyScout replied to Nick T | 5 years ago
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Nick T wrote:

I would never have the gall to ask everyone I know to donate in order for me to do something I want to do anyway. 100 mile bike ride you say? Don’t you do that most weeks anyway? Oh this one’s supposed to be different, is it?

I'm currently sat here with a sponsor form for a charity bike ride on my desk, wondering whether to pass it around. the office. Yes, I can comfortably do the distance - in fact, to make it more interesting I am nearly doubling it by cycling to the start and home again, so there is an element of "where's the challenge".

I tend to think the challenge here is actually raising awareness of a (IMO) worthy charity.

Another colleague is running his umpteenth marathon for a cancer charity and I'll give him a donation - another colleague is in training for the LEJOG for another charity, which is a "proper" challenge with a genuine chance of failure, but I think he's looking at doing that over nearly 2 weeks with a couple of rest days,  so you could argue that's also a bit on the "comfortable" side, so where do you draw the line on what is "worthy" of sponsorship?

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srchar | 5 years ago
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The truly ludicrous thing about this situation is that the charities end up having to run "Sale" events to offload their unfilled places as the event approaches.  I've done the Etape and Ride London for £99 with no fundraising commitment, both booked with one of the mega-charities, close to the event.

Local charities can be supported while enjoying a nice bike ride by entering one of the smaller sportives. There are tons of them.

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cougie | 5 years ago
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That does sound like it's taking the pee.  Just do the jump in the UK and save everyone £1800 or something. 

 

I notice the payment date for Ride London was extended this year too - so maybe they're struggling to get the money in for the balloted places.  I know a few couples where they've both applied and the wives have got in thru the ballot and the husbands not.  So they've both pulled out. 

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alansmurphy | 5 years ago
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It's quite annoying, and you get some brilliant con artists taking self-entitled liberties.

 

Facebook request from a (now former) friend to support her charity sacrifice for the homeless. Ahhh that's sweet, she's a nice girl with her own 3 bedroom home, £30k a year job, wanting to ut something back. Read 'her story' and it's a bungee jump or skydive or something at the Grand Canyon - every penny she raises over £2,000 goes direct to the charity and she's putting the first £200 in herself. Brilliant so we get to pay £1,800 towards your holiday and if loads of people contribute then a homeless person may get a blanket. F**k right off!

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pruaga | 5 years ago
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There is a ballot for smaller charities to apply for places separately from the individual ballot.  The charities that get charity ballot places can then 'sell' them on to individuals in exchange for fundraising commitments.  This is why they tend require a people to raise a minimum amount so they don't end up making a loss on the place(s) they buy.

The big charities can get so many places because they are prepared to pay a lot for them in sponsorship deals with the organisers.  They have the larger budgets to invest in fundraising so can invest more upfront, smaller charities likely won't have a lot of capital.  This is why the minimum fundraising committments tend to be higher for the larger charities.

Ultimately a charity is run as a business aiming to make a return on an investment.  It's just what they do with their 'profit' that makes them different.

 

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Sniffer | 5 years ago
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Not sure about Ride London, but I know at some events the charities pay the organisers for places.

With 4 months to go they are really just into selling season for the charity places.  Gets the newer riders who say' I fancy x event, Oh it is sold out, but there is a charit place'.

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