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Another great line up taking shape.

Movistar aren’t messing about with this one with Valverde, Quintana, Carapaz and Soler all lining up. I’m thinking they’re planning on doing well. 

Also...A tick against Bora but only six riders listed...anybody got any ideas what that’s all about?

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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Start list is still crap, hopefully it'll fill up tomorrow, then I can open the comp.

Nobody's been removed from the Bora roster on PCS so it seems it was always that way. Not sure who was meant to be going along. Maybe someone who was injured in the last week or so?

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Start list is still crap, hopefully it'll fill up tomorrow, then I can open the comp.

Nobody's been removed from the Bora roster on PCS so it seems it was always that way. Not sure who was meant to be going along. Maybe someone who was injured in the last week or so?

Aye...quite thin in places for a lot of teams...Maybe some are awaiting the end of the race on Saturday before declaring for any riders that are doubling up. If most of the headline acts listed end up racing then it’s a really good line up.

 

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Start list full....a few ticks needed against them though...

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Does anybody know how steep that last 1km is on stage 2?

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stevemarks [608 posts] 3 months ago
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An embarrassment of riches...

Froome, S Yates, Quintana and  Porte all missing from my team in a race that's mainly climbing who'd have thought?

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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stevemarks wrote:

An embarrassment of riches...

Froome, S Yates, Quintana and  Porte all missing from my team in a race that's mainly climbing who'd have thought?

Froome is my dither for the purist game....no rides and no form, apart from 91st in Colombia, and not even team leader....what could possibly go wrong. 

 

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Does anybody know how steep that last 1km is on stage 2?

4.5% I think

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:
stevemarks wrote:

An embarrassment of riches...

Froome, S Yates, Quintana and  Porte all missing from my team in a race that's mainly climbing who'd have thought?

Froome is my dither for the purist game....no rides and no form, apart from 91st in Colombia, and not even team leader....what could possibly go wrong. 

Definitely think Bernal will be the chosen son for Sky, he's the one in form. I'm sure many were taken in by Froome's low price though so we'll see what happens.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Does anybody know how steep that last 1km is on stage 2?

4.5% I think

Perfect. Looks more on the diagram.

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Perfect. Looks more on the diagram.

I went by PCS, if the final climb is tackled twice then it's just 1km at 4.5%. Lumpy finish though, and the cat3 a little while before would be enough to force a selection.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:
stevemarks wrote:

An embarrassment of riches...

Froome, S Yates, Quintana and  Porte all missing from my team in a race that's mainly climbing who'd have thought?

Froome is my dither for the purist game....no rides and no form, apart from 91st in Colombia, and not even team leader....what could possibly go wrong. 

Definitely think Bernal will be the chosen son for Sky, he's the one in form. I'm sure many were taken in by Froome's low price though so we'll see what happens.

He does seem to need to ride into form sometimes. Even when he gets a decent result he drifts on and off during the climbs in early season. Not getting him anyway...quite a few picks that look less risky.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Perfect. Looks more on the diagram.

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I went by PCS, if the final climb is tackled twice then it's just 1km at 4.5%. Lumpy finish though, and the cat3 a little while before would be enough to force a selection.

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A few riders will enjoy that...Hodeg might be the only one I don’t know enough about on that kind of finish. He has his team as always but what’s he like on the lumps?

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Leaving it late.

What’s going on with Lotto?....Is TDG the GC hope?...I can’t see who is their GC rider apart from him.

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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Hodeg is decent on the lumps and he's the best sprinter that's going imo. He won stge 1 last year.

Lotto are leading with Vanendert, who's surely going just to build form for the Ardennes. Lambrecht will probably get the GC nod and TDG will be his normal self I expect, depending on whether he's too bushed after Paris-Nice.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Hodeg is decent on the lumps and he's the best sprinter that's going imo. He won stge 1 last year.

Lotto are leading with Vanendert, who's surely going just to build form for the Ardennes. Lambrecht will probably get the GC nod and TDG will be his normal self I expect, depending on whether he's too bushed after Paris-Nice.

Aye...he doesn’t always perform. Quite an odd team really for this race, it looks more like a training exercise than a serious attempt at winning.

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MinardiM189 [553 posts] 3 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Aye...he doesn’t always perform. Quite an odd team really for this race, it looks more like a training exercise than a serious attempt at winning.

Lotto Soudal are mainly using the race as a training exercise with riders free to ride their own race.

I don't expect to see Hodeg sprinting for the win on stage 2, I think there will be a sprint from a reduced bunch.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Aye...he doesn’t always perform. Quite an odd team really for this race, it looks more like a training exercise than a serious attempt at winning.

Lotto Soudal are mainly using the race as a training exercise with riders free to ride their own race.

I don't expect to see Hodeg sprinting for the win on stage 2, I think there will be a sprint from a reduced bunch.

Well i put TDG in anyway because if he is planning on another KOM raid this is a big stage. If not he'll be first out.

Other than him winning KOM I can't see why they're even there apart from turning their legs over.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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Yeah..he's in the break...so far....

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MinardiM189 [553 posts] 3 months ago
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Well i put TDG in anyway because if he is planning on another KOM raid this is a big stage. If not he'll be first out.

Other than him winning KOM I can't see why they're even there apart from turning their legs over.

I have Degendt in my standard team too but dropped him from my purist team. A lot less KoM points on offer in this race.

I had Cuadros in my standard team too but dropped him for Vakoc.

I can't see QS chasing for sprints in stage 5 & 6 and think they will try and get someone in the break, Vakoc can also sprint if Hodeg is dropped but going on my recent form Vakoc will probably score nothing all race.

Both Degendt and Cuadros are in the break.

 

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Well i put TDG in anyway because if he is planning on another KOM raid this is a big stage. If not he'll be first out.

Other than him winning KOM I can't see why they're even there apart from turning their legs over.

I have Degendt in my standard team too but dropped him from my purist team. A lot less KoM points on offer in this race.

I had Cuadros in my standard team too but dropped him for Vakoc.

I can't see QS chasing for sprints in stage 5 & 6 and think they will try and get someone in the break, Vakoc can also sprint if Hodeg is dropped but going on my recent form Vakoc will probably score nothing all race.

Both Degendt and Cuadros are in the break.

 

I'm not brave enough to pick two breakaway picks...I've tried that before.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Well i put TDG in anyway because if he is planning on another KOM raid this is a big stage. If not he'll be first out.

Other than him winning KOM I can't see why they're even there apart from turning their legs over.

I have Degendt in my standard team too but dropped him from my purist team. A lot less KoM points on offer in this race.

I had Cuadros in my standard team too but dropped him for Vakoc.

I can't see QS chasing for sprints in stage 5 & 6 and think they will try and get someone in the break, Vakoc can also sprint if Hodeg is dropped but going on my recent form Vakoc will probably score nothing all race.

Both Degendt and Cuadros are in the break.

 

Well played Minardi. Will he be a serial breaker?

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MinardiM189 [553 posts] 3 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Well played Minardi. Will he be a serial breaker?

Cuadros ?

He was been in breaks on a few occasions previously.

I have doubts whether he will be able to stick with Degendt & Gougeaard if they up the pace.

Tomorrow will be different break riders as there are no serious KoM points on offer.

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Well played Minardi. Will he be a serial breaker?

Cuadros ?

He was been in breaks on a few occasions previously.

I have doubts whether he will be able to stick with Degendt & Gougeaard if they up the pace.

Tomorrow will be different break riders as there are no serious KoM points on offer.

Yeah..don't recall him very often..but there are so many break riders. Mate in it today..he likes a break for certain.

And actually you're right...a big day today from TDG and he's half done the job nearly.

 

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MinardiM189 [553 posts] 3 months ago
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Pretty sure the initial results are wrong.

It was Aristi 5th not Bizkarra and Van der Licke was 9th, McCarthy 10th, Bevin 11th, Caruso 12th.

I think I'm happy with that even though Gibbons went missing.

I was tempted to include Bernal from the start but that would have meant dropping Degendt.

What is the most a rdier has scored on a stage over the years?

Degendt must come close with today's tally.

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stevemarks [608 posts] 3 months ago
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Schachmann or Mas? Schachman or Mas? Schachman or Mas?

 

Mas of course. happy to have plumped for TDG though. He should really win the whole thing now. But if he does. will he be a marked man forever?

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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What happened to young Hodeg?

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Dr Winston [745 posts] 3 months ago
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stevemarks wrote:

Schachmann or Mas? Schachman or Mas? Schachman or Mas?

 

Mas of course. happy to have plumped for TDG though. He should really win the whole thing now. But if he does. will he be a marked man forever?

well he's a marked man for the rest of this tour for certain. I doubt we'll be getting any more breakaway KOM points.

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

What is the most a rdier has scored on a stage over the years?

Degendt must come close with today's tally.

Some dude got over 90 either last year of the year before. De Gendt today will pick up....I'll score when I get home, but 35+10+5+5+6+other intermediate sprint result that I missed+top points one climb+2nd points other climb+top points on minor climb ~ 80 points maybe.

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MinardiM189 [553 posts] 3 months ago
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well he's a marked man for the rest of this tour for certain. I doubt we'll be getting any more breakaway KOM points.

Degendt will struggle on Stages 3 & 4,  I expect he will lose the jersey on Wednesday and maybe go for the break on Thursday to collect KoM points and then try and win another stage on Friday or Saturday.

Hodeg got dropped mid-race.

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Condor Andy [733 posts] 3 months ago
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I have De Gendt in my purist, didn't expect him to feature in the finish today! Hell of a ride.

Might not tweak my team too much for tomorrow and make more transfers for stage 3.

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