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Yeah....time to go climbing and rolling. Fields are getting stronger and stronger, no idea where to even start to try and unpick this one after the TT...

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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Astana getting this wrong.

They should have attacked with Fuglsang earlier.

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Well they won’t bring back 1’30 on a climb against Buchmann. Astana have blown this.

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Jesus Minardi, you do make some great decisions!

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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KoM points stage 5

The offical site has got Van Rensberg as coming 4th on IXUA GAINA cat1 climb.

Van Rensberg was knowhere in site, it was actually Pogacar.

They took the KoM as shown in the pic

Sanchez, Izagirre, Landa, Pogacar, Buchmann, Gaudu

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Nineteen riders in the break. Anybody of any significance?

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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My team for the final day -

YATES A.
IZAGIRRE I.
BUCHMANN
FUGLSANG
MARTIN D.
LANDA
POGACAR
QUINTERO

Dropped Martinez for Landa & brought Quintero in for Bravo.

Still have one transfer left.

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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Looks like I may have my highest stage score ever, 303 I make it.

Hopefully enough to take the win in the standard competition.

Can we introduce a 20 point bonus for unused transfers please ?

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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305 Minardi and you have taken the win, congrats!

13 people with > 300 on this stage.

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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And Gecko holds off Dr Winston by 8 points in the purist!

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Well played Minardi and Gecko...Good wins...

Glad Minardi has come out of his run of bad luck. ...back in the game. Second in the purist for me for the second game running....I can see a pattern developing.

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Gecko-cyclist | 5 years ago
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Chuffed with a first tour win.
Weirdly 21 points more in my purist team than my standard - that can't be too common?

Congratulations to Minardi winning the standard too.

You having a transfer left is unbelievable but a big lesson in the benefits of not tinkering. Learning that, and when not to spend the full budget just because it's there are definitely things I need to work on!

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stevemarks replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Astana getting this wrong.

They should have attacked with Fuglsang earlier.

Looks like Bora have got their tactics right as Buchmann goes solo. 

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Well they won’t bring back 1’30 on a climb against Buchmann. Astana have blown this.

A complete mess up by Astana. Looks like bringing Buchmann in was a good decision for me but for completely different reasons.

At least it means Astana will have to go crazy tomorrow.

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Condor Andy replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

KoM points stage 5

The offical site has got Van Rensberg as coming 4th on IXUA GAINA cat1 climb.

Van Rensberg was knowhere in site, it was actually Pogacar.

They took the KoM as shown in the pic

Sanchez, Izagirre, Landa, Pogacar, Buchmann, Gaudu

Roger that, I'll keep my eye on it and update later.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Nineteen riders in the break. Anybody of any significance?

No-one a GC threat but Movistar have 3 riders  & UAE 2.

Gap isn't very big though.

I have a feeling it is going to be all back together soon.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Well played Minardi and Gecko...Good wins...

Glad Minardi has come out of his run of bad luck. ...back in the game. Second in the purist for me for the second game running....I can see a pattern developing.

Thanks Dr Winston.

Hopefully I can build on this result.

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Dr Winston replied to stevemarks | 5 years ago
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stevemarks wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

Astana getting this wrong.

They should have attacked with Fuglsang earlier.

Looks like Bora have got their tactics right as Buchmann goes solo. 

Never even entered my head that he would go solo. Never seen him do that before.

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stevemarks replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

Well they won’t bring back 1’30 on a climb against Buchmann. Astana have blown this.

A complete mess up by Astana. Looks like bringing Buchmann in was a good decision for me but for completely different reasons.

At least it means Astana will have to go crazy tomorrow.

 

And there lies the difference, I don't have Buchmann

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MinardiM189 replied to Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

KoM points stage 5

The offical site has got Van Rensberg as coming 4th on IXUA GAINA cat1 climb.

Van Rensberg was knowhere in sight, it was actually Pogacar.

They took the KoM as shown in the pic

Sanchez, Izagirre, Landa, Pogacar, Buchmann, Gaudu

Roger that, I'll keep my eye on it and update later.

It looks like Van Rensberg is keeping his KoM points, the race site and UCI have him still listed as 4th on that climb.

I guess someone wrote the numbers down wrong, 134 instead of 104.

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

Nineteen riders in the break. Anybody of any significance?

No-one a GC threat but Movistar have 3 riders  & UAE 2.

Gap isn't very big though.

I have a feeling it is going to be all back together soon.

I need De Marchi to rack some pts up to have a chance at the purist

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

stevemarks wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

Astana getting this wrong.

They should have attacked with Fuglsang earlier.

Looks like Bora have got their tactics right as Buchmann goes solo. 

Never even entered my head that he would go solo. Never seen him do that before.

I don't think it was tactics by Bora, just bad by all the other teams letting a leading competitor ride away from them without chasing until it was too late.

I think Buchmann was just marking Sanchez and nobody followed them & Sanchez helped him get away, then had a puncture.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

Nineteen riders in the break. Anybody of any significance?

No-one a GC threat but Movistar have 3 riders  & UAE 2.

Gap isn't very big though.

I have a feeling it is going to be all back together soon.

I need De Marchi to rack some pts up to have a chance at the purist

He has picked up 3+3+3+1 so far

but will probably drop down to 3rd overall by the end of the day.

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

stevemarks wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

Astana getting this wrong.

They should have attacked with Fuglsang earlier.

Looks like Bora have got their tactics right as Buchmann goes solo. 

Never even entered my head that he would go solo. Never seen him do that before.

I don't think it was tactics by Bora, just bad by all the other teams letting a leading competitor ride away from them without chasing until it was too late.

I think Buchmann was just marking Sanchez and nobody followed them & Sanchez helped him get away, then had a puncture.

Did he puncture?..i thought he was just called back. Looks like quite a few avoided Buchmann possibly due to confusion about how Bora would play it...or maybe already booked up wih Schachmann and Konrad. Landa was definitely the less confused pick. I'm absolutely mazed that the peleton just let Buchmann ride away from them like that....maybe, like, me, they just had him tagged a grinder on climbs and not a danger in the way he was today.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Did he puncture?..i thought he was just called back. Looks like quite a few avoided Buchmann possibly due to confusion about how Bora would play it...or maybe already booked up wih Schachmann and Konrad. Landa was definitely the less confused pick. I'm absolutely mazed that the peleton just let Buchmann ride away from them like that....maybe, like, me, they just had him tagged a grinder on climbs and not a danger in the way he was today.

I just saw him slow up and thought his back tyre looked flat but was probably wrong.

Did Astana and Sanchez think it was Muhlberger and not Buchmann until too late?

I chose Buchmann over Landa because the final climb wasn't from the difficult direction and I thought Buchmann would hang on.

On reflection I should have dropped Martinez too.

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Sniffer replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

Did he puncture?..i thought he was just called back. Looks like quite a few avoided Buchmann possibly due to confusion about how Bora would play it...or maybe already booked up wih Schachmann and Konrad. Landa was definitely the less confused pick. I'm absolutely mazed that the peleton just let Buchmann ride away from them like that....maybe, like, me, they just had him tagged a grinder on climbs and not a danger in the way he was today.

I just saw him slow up and thought his back tyre looked flat but was probably wrong.

Did Astana and Sanchez think it was Muhlberger and not Buchmann until too late?

I chose Buchmann over Landa because the final climb wasn't from the difficult direction and I thought Buchmann would hang on.

On reflection I should have dropped Martinez too.

Missed the Buchmann opportnity.

In reality holding Schachmann for the day won't be a bad decision.  GC points for 3rd, must still be holding points jersey, best young rider to go with 9th on the stage and a team mate bonus.

I did consider Buchmann, but went Fuglsang and Pogacar instead.  The best play would have been dropping Martinez, but I doubt many would have done that.

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MinardiM189 replied to Sniffer | 5 years ago
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Sniffer wrote:

Missed the Buchmann opportnity.

In reality holding Schachmann for the day won't be a bad decision.  GC points for 3rd, must still be holding points jersey, best young rider to go with 9th on the stage and a team mate bonus.

I did consider Buchmann, but went Fuglsang and Pogacar instead.  The best play would have been dropping Martinez, but I doubt many would have done that.

I never considered dropping Martinez, he was unfortunate at the end, he got left behind by the front few and dragged everybody else to the finish before they all jumped him.

Working out what to do with my 3 remaining transfers isn't going to be easy.

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stevemarks replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Sniffer wrote:

Missed the Buchmann opportnity.

In reality holding Schachmann for the day won't be a bad decision.  GC points for 3rd, must still be holding points jersey, best young rider to go with 9th on the stage and a team mate bonus.

I did consider Buchmann, but went Fuglsang and Pogacar instead.  The best play would have been dropping Martinez, but I doubt many would have done that.

I never considered dropping Martinez, he was unfortunate at the end, he got left behind by the front few and dragged everybody else to the finish before they all jumped him.

Working out what to do with my 3 remaining transfers isn't going to be easy.

At least I saved myself that problem Lol!

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Sniffer replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Looks like I may have my highest stage score ever, 303 I make it.

Hopefully enough to take the win in the standard competition.

Can we introduce a 20 point bonus for unused transfers please ?

Looks good. I had the same team except Bravo retained instead of Quintero.

No transfers left for me. Used the last two to drop Martinez and Schachmann for Landa and Buchmann.

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Schachmann clinging on...just..

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Madouas still in. If he does well these next two days he’s announcing himself as a real GC rider.

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