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Condor Andy [772 posts] 1 week ago
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This will be going live in the next couple of days, when there's a decent start list and I know more about the stages. BinckBank (formerly the Eneco Tour) is notorious for crap information, so be patient. Kick off is on Monday.

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huntswheelers [182 posts] 1 week ago
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We did the Day 2 the other year..... nice ride down from Brugge to Jabekke ..... (that stage is on again this year)....we'll be back another year to take on some more stages... very underrated Tour of the Low Countries

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 1 week ago
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Opening this up soon. No real information on jerseys, but if I'm seeing it correctly, there's a points jersey and intermediate sprints, but no KOM. There's a combativity prize as well, but I'm not sure what that entails. If it's a comp, we'll score it like a jersey, if it's a normal day-to-day thing then we'll do the normal 10 points.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 week ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Opening this up soon. No real information on jerseys, but if I'm seeing it correctly, there's a points jersey and intermediate sprints, but no KOM. There's a combativity prize as well, but I'm not sure what that entails. If it's a comp, we'll score it like a jersey, if it's a normal day-to-day thing then we'll do the normal 10 points.

Are we ignoring the Golden Sprints?

From wikipedia -

The combativity classification is based solely on points won at the intermediate sprints; the leading rider wins the black jersey.

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 1 week ago
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Okay, reading that now. So the combativity jersey is a sprint jersey, with points only from intermediate sprints (the Primus ones). The red points jersey is those and the finish line points. The golden km is only for bonus seconds.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 week ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Okay, reading that now. So the combativity jersey is a sprint jersey, with points only from intermediate sprints (the Primus ones). The red points jersey is those and the finish line points. The golden km is only for bonus seconds.

It sounds like it.

Simpler than last year where they had 3 intermediate sprints and 2 primus sprints at different points on the route. Double dutch cycle scoring.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 5 days ago
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Some last minute tinkering with my teams this morning -

Standard - Kragh Andersen out, Theuns in, Theuns out, Modolo in, Modolo out, Kragh Andersen in.

I saw some pictures from the start and it looks very windy, so I went back to Kragh Andersen despite his team saying his target in the first stages is bonus seconds at the intermediate sprints.

I'll probably regret that last second change.

Standard team -

BENNET Sam
GROENEWEGEN
HODEG
PHILIPSEN
KRAGH ANDERSEN
SMITH D.
CARDIS
GODON

Dropped Kragh Andersen & Jungels for Philipsen & Cardis this morning because I don't think Kragh will be sprinting and I think Jungels will be working for Stybar & Gilbert rather than for himslef.

Purist team -

GROENEWEGEN
BENNET Sam
PHILIPSEN
WELLENS
PEDERSEN M.
VAN BAARLE
SMITH D.
CARDIS

 

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 5 days ago
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Interesting you have Kragh Andersen in your standard, but not your purist. What's your reasoning behind Smith, Godon, and Cardis? Here are mine.

Standard:

GROENEWEGEN
BENNETT
PHILIPSEN
ALLEGAERT
HALVORSEN
THEUNS
PLANCKAERT B.
ASSELMAN

Hoping for some breakaway action.

Purist:

HODEG
GROENEWEGEN
PHILIPSEN
HALVORSEN
VALGREN
ALLEGAERT
VAN BAARLE
VAN AVERMAET

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 5 days ago
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Kragh Andersen was in my purist but I dropped him after Sunweb said his primary objective in the 'sprint' stages was bonus seconds. That  is why he isn't in my purist, I decided to go with Philipsen who will compete in all the sprints and could surprise in other stages.

I brought him back into my standard team at the last second when I saw the weather at the start, I thought he should do OK if it there are echelons and Modolo wouldn't. Theuns & Plankaert was my other option.

When Smith has the freedom he can do OK in sprints, he also has done OK on tough stages in this race in the past too.

Godon may sprint for AG2R and has reasonable recent form.

Cardis may sprint for DEN and could also go in the breaks.

I looked at Allegaert but he has been working for Capiot as a lead out recently.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 5 days ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Interesting you have Kragh Andersen in your standard, but not your purist. What's your reasoning behind Smith, Godon, and Cardis? Here are mine.

Standard:

GROENEWEGEN
BENNETT
PHILIPSEN
ALLEGAERT
HALVORSEN
THEUNS
PLANCKAERT B.
ASSELMAN

Hoping for some breakaway action.

Planckaert was a good pick I read an article saying he was tagrting doing something from the break as getting a result in the sprints was impossible.

I had him & Theuns in my team at one stage this morning.

Is Binck Bank is one of the races where it takes ages to get the full results ?

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 5 days ago
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Looks like you were right about Allegaert and Capiot. I just brought him in for potential break action, and he was cheap. I'll need to watch some highlights to see what happened to Jumbo again. What is their plan here? Can Teunissen go for the overall?

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 5 days ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Looks like you were right about Allegaert and Capiot. I just brought him in for potential break action, and he was cheap. I'll need to watch some highlights to see what happened to Jumbo again. What is their plan here? Can Teunissen go for the overall?

Teunissen can go for overall he was leading out Groenewegen today and the plan was for him not to stop but Groenewegen to come around him. Groenewegen had to stop his sprint because the Trek rider (Mads Pedersen, I think) moved back across the road to block him.

Allegaert won the Primus points competition in 2017 and I thought about him but saw he is now a leadout rider.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 4 days ago
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Brought Theuns & Plankaert in for today.

Hopefully Trek allow Theuns to sprint again this race rather than act as a lead out for Pedersen.

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Dr Winston [784 posts] 4 days ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Brought Theuns & Plankaert in for today.

Hopefully Trek allow Theuns to sprint again this race rather than act as a lead out for Pedersen.

Not to be. Not sure what was going on there. Theuns looked like he was going to go long at one point.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 4 days ago
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Dr Winston wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:

Brought Theuns & Plankaert in for today.

Hopefully Trek allow Theuns to sprint again this race rather than act as a lead out for Pedersen.

Not to be. Not sure what was going on there. Theuns looked like he was going to go long at one point.

They were trying to set it up for Pedersen to go long but he wasn't on Theuns wheel.

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Dr Winston [784 posts] 3 days ago
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Missed the race today..What happened to Halvorsen and Hodeg?...Nowhere near ...

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 3 days ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Missed the race today..What happened to Halvorsen and Hodeg?...Nowhere near ...

Minor crash in the final corner screwed up a lot of people.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 2 days ago
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3 changes for today -

BENNET Sam
WELLENS
NAESEN
PHILIPSEN
THEUNS
SMITH D.
Van AVERMAET
PLANCKAERT B.

stage just started, crazy already yes

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Sniffer [664 posts] 2 days ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

3 changes for today -

BENNET Sam
WELLENS
NAESEN
PHILIPSEN
THEUNS
SMITH D.
Van AVERMAET
PLANCKAERT B.

stage just started, crazy already yes

First changes in the race for me today.  Your three plus Gilbert. 

Still gives me Bennet and Philipson too as well

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 2 days ago
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I didn't make any, I wasted 3 yesterday swapping Theuns for Capiot. Figured I'd wait until the TT and the final day.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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Only one change for today Hodeg in for Van Avermaet, not enough transfers left to bring Groenewegen back in but hoping that Hodeg will get some support in the sprint now that QS leaders have blown their GC chances.

Bad choices for Stage 1 and subsequent transfers taking their toll.

BENNET Sam
WELLENS
NAESEN
PHILIPSEN
THEUNS
SMITH D.
HODEG
PLANCKAERT B.

 

 

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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That didn't work out too badly.

I just noticed that the results from Stage 4 were changed. In the original results Teunissen was given the same time as Valgren, which was incorrect, this gave him 5th place on GC. Overnight this was corrected and Teunissen dropped to 7th on GC, correspondingly Naesen moved up to 5th and Valgren to 6th.

 

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jollygoodvelo [1849 posts] 1 day ago
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Only put Hodor in at the last minute today.  I've made worse last minute decisions.

 

Now, what on earth to do tomorrow...

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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jollygoodvelo wrote:

Only put Hodor in at the last minute today.  I've made worse last minute decisions.

 

Now, what on earth to do tomorrow...

Don't pick Groenewegen he is going on holiday in Spain.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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Hmmm

The provisional results are showing a lot of riders losing time due to splits at the finish.

Didn't the accident cause the split ?

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Hmmm

The provisional results are showing a lot of riders losing time due to splits at the finish.

Didn't the accident cause the split ?

Apparently several teams are appealing the results.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 1 day ago
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The stage results have now been corrected to remove the splits caused by the crash & GC has slightly changed as a consequence.

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Condor Andy [772 posts] 20 hours ago
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I'll revisit and update.

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MinardiM189 [620 posts] 17 hours ago
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Team for today -

KRAGH ANDERSEN
WELLENS
NAESEN
TEUNISSEN
DE PLUS
SMITH D.
KUNG
HIRSCHI

Not sure why I picked Hirschi, I should have gone with Pedersen.

I fancy Van Emden to win but with De Plus & Teunissen up on GC I couln't fit him in.