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Eating disorder

Hello,

the past couple of months I have been having some problem with eating enough food and I am wondering if anyone can give me some advice. At the end of february I had a big crash and I was of the bike and not training for almost a month. The crash had a big impact on me both physically and mentally. When I was not training because of the crash I started to eat less food because I was in bed all day and could barely for some time and I didn't want to gain unnecessary weight. I think that when I started training again I already got used to eating less and so my body didn't get enough food and I started loosing weight. After some time my parents noticed it as well and urged me to eat more. I am now trying to eat more and gain some weight back. The problem is not physical - I can eat a lot of food without feeling sick if I want too and my apetite is always good. But I am having some mental problems when it comes to eating more, because I think that I will gain just fat and not muscle and I am scared of that. I know that if I gain some weight I will also become stronger but its hard for me to convince my self that that is true. I know that there is a lot of eating disorders in cycling and I hope someone will be able to give me some advice. I am still a junior rider so its also important for me to eat enough as I am still developing. I also have a bit of OCD although it was more severe when I was younger. How do I convince myself that food is my friend and that I should eat more? Thank you in advance for all your help:)

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nniff | 1 year ago
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For what this is worth:

My wife of 30-odd years is an anorexic and has been since before we met.  She has looked 'right' since we met and generally eats properly, but she's still an anorexic.   She eats, but will quite happily not eat.  Eating is therefore a conscious thing that she needs to do, rather than a routine thing, and she'll have a snack instead of a proper meal.  Words are important - 'Does my bum look big in this?' 'No, but I really don't like the colour'....

You need to understand your relationship with weighing scales - she will not be without them, but some specialists say to avoid them - it depends upon what you are using them for - to drive an anxiety,  confirm stability, or verify control. In her case, it's the latter, so take the scales away and it's a car crash

Over the years, she has learned at what point she's too thin and what the indicators of that are. Ergo, using the scales she knows if she should gain more, or should lose a little.  It makes no sense to me because my weight seems to vary daily for no apparent reason.

Of course, 35 or so years on, we're looking at the menopause and all of the issues that that brings with it. Main thing is I now have to be quick to get a meal going before she's had a snack.  She's got a very busy day today and will be back late.  I know she won't eat any supper, and so she recieved a strict instruction to have a decent lunch.  She probably won't...

If I were you, I would harness your OCD to focus on something thing other than weight - someone has already suggested power to weight.  Initially, I'd forget about weight and look at power and what you need to do in terms of diet and training to get that up.   And avoid supplements, whether they are good, bad or a waste of tim.  The last thing you need is to be reliant on anything other than yourself and good food.  Eat well, eat clean and try to be as rational as you can.  Set yourself some 'good' objectives that are positive (i.e. more power, faster, stronger) and avoid the negative (lose weight, eat less, can't eat that). 

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Jimmy Ray Will | 1 year ago
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Out of interest, how old are you and have you had similar obsessive episodes in other areas of your life? 

Prior to the crash, how was your weight / attitude to food? 

As everyone else is saying, seek professional help. What that help should be is maybe a bit trickier to pin down. From my couch I'd probably looking at a wider behavioural therapist rather than something specific to eating disorders. 

As an aside, I've been racing for 27 years now, and my biggest bug bear when it comes to youngsters coming in to the sport is their obsession with weight and power to weight ratio. For the vast majority, the focus should be exclusively about building power at all costs. And by all costs, I'm talking about providing your body the building blocks it needs to develop, and that means energy in and sufficient amounts of stored body fat. 

Once you physically mature (anywhere between 19 and 22), you can then focus on leaning up and improving the W/KG. 

Good luck with it, from what you've written it sounds like you have great self awareness which I'm sure will help. 

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NikolajGregoric replied to Jimmy Ray Will | 1 year ago
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I turn 17 this year. I've had OCD my whole life. It was quite bad when I was younger and it then got better by itself without any special treatment. But I feel like I have always liked routine, planing in advance and knowing what's going to happen. 

I have lost about 3-4 kg since my crash in late february, but i'm now having realised the problem trying to gain some weight back. I think that after the crash I started to watch what I eat more, not wanting to gain weight when recovering from it and not training. I think I also started to eat healtier foods which is good and I think the problem is not what I eat but that I don't eat enough. I feel like a part of me understands that I need to eat more and that I won't become fat and slow, but actually more powerful if I do so. But than the other part of me tells me that I shouldn't eat too much, because I will gain unnecessary fat and no power. Sometimes I manage to listen to that good part, but the bad one always comes creeping back. I'm not sure how to shut down that voice in my head. I've only been cycling for a good year and a half now and have progressed a lot. I'm in the first year of U19 now. My dream is to become a professional cyclists, but I know that that's a very hard thing to achieve. I put a lot of pressure on myself (probaly more than any of my coaches) and I get really frustrated if I don't perform how I want to or if things don't go to plan. 

I have no problem with opening myself up to others if that means I can get some good advice and beat this problem. I am very aware of the problems I have, but I just can't seem to be able to shut that bad side of me off. I really hope I can get some good advice. Thanks to everyone that already responded and to everyone that will.

I'm sorry if there are any grammar mistakes - English is not my first language, but I do love it and am always trying to improve in it. I'm from Slovenia.

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Mungecrundle | 1 year ago
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Professional advice is always your gold standard. A GP referal is a good place to start but accessing those services can be difficult given the number of people waiting for help.

Fortunately, a'holes on t'internet are 2 a penny, so here's my 1/2 p worth with my only qualification being a bit OCD myself and having a bout of mental illness a couple of years back.

1. Recognising that there is an issue.
2. Being able to talk about it without any sense of shame, guilt or weakness.
3. Asking for help, even if from strangers.

So you are already half way fixed!

My suggestions:

Take a look at Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. I didn't get much beyond the idea of making a conscious effort to give yourself a mental thumbs up even for what might seem really trivial daily tasks. Fortunately I'm not a very complex creature and find even that one tenet is unbelievably powerful.

If you are the competitive type then don't compete with your pre accident self. If you are weaker then set yourself goals in something completely different. E.g try swimming. If you don't currently swim then you will be crap but rapidly see improvement which is rewarding.

Try not to focus on eating as the only problem, by which I mean keep a perspective and downgrade it so it doesn't get a chance to become all consuming.

You cannot avoid eating so a head on approach could be to actually do more peripheral food activities such as shopping and cooking. You get control of the demon, will generally eat better, gain new skills and make other people happy if you can share what you produce. Also, OCD is extremely useful for getting the washing up done and keeping the kitchen tidy!

HTH

M

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Simon E | 1 year ago
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Recent interviews with ex-riders like Janez Brajkovič (Cycling Tips) show examples of how eating behaviours can result in an eating disorder and affect your career and your life. This is not exclusive to professional athletes and can happen to anyone, including people who do not exercise much.

IMVHO unless you are eating substantially more calories than you are burning then some weight gain is perfectly healthy and natural. But it's important to try to eat nutritious food, since micronutrients (vitamins and minerals) are important as well as macronutrients (carbs, fat and protein).

Ideally you really should be speaking with a dietitian (i.e. medically trained, not a self-styled 'guru'). They can help you address some of your ideas, concerns and maybe some common misunderstandings about food.

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TheBillder | 1 year ago
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Thank you for your courage in telling your story.

I would really like to encourage you to find professional help - a good therapist can help you to look at everything going on in your life and give you some techniques to at least mitigate the effects of what you are experiencing.

My amateur advice would be that if you are training, you will not get fat with extra food - you'll be using it for fuel and growth. If you add strength training in the gym to what you do on the bike, you can build muscle. Perhaps you know this consciously, but sub-consciously something is getting in the way of that logic. OCD can do that - someone I know very well with OCD has exactly that experience.

I wish you all the best in your recovery.

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Brauchsel replied to TheBillder | 1 year ago
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+1 for finding a therapist, with experience of eating disorders. Cycling is probably fairly incidental to whatever's going on here: that will be specific to you, and even the best-intentioned advice on a forum like this is no substitute for working through it with a professional who is focussed on you. 
You already know objectively that eating "properly" will improve your cycling along with your general fitness: something is preventing you from acting on that knowledge, and so I doubt that any number of experienced cyclists telling you what you already know will address the issue. 
All the best with your recovery. 

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