A Manchester cyclist has been caught on film riding through a red traffic light – and straight into the side of a double-decker bus he had somehow failed to spot. Thankfully, the rider seems to have got away unscathed.
The incident, filmed by a motorcyclist, happened at the junction of Portland Street and Oxford Street in the centre of the city.
As the person taking the video notes, not only did the cyclist not see the bus, but the “driver is oblivious” too as he turns right at the junction and continues on his way.
The incident is reminiscent of one filmed in London’s Trafalgar Square in January. On that occasion, the cyclist started going through the lights while they changing, contrary to the Highway Code, which says red and amber “means ‘Stop’. Do not pass through or start until green shows.”
Other vehicles were still crossing the rider’s path, including a lorry, the driver of which seems to have gone through on red, and once again the cyclist had a very lucky escape.
Even when traffic lights are green, the Highway Code tells road users to exercise caution. It says: “Green means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing.”
While riding through a red light is ilegal, many cyclists believe it can be justified at times for safety reasons.
In February, journalist and author Jack Shenker was stopped and fined close to Holborn tube station in central London under the Metropolitan Police's Operation Safeway after going through a light on red, and he subsequently explained to road.cc why he did that.
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I'm not buying the broken cable story. Thirty years I've been cycling and never had a cable snap or seen it happen.
You have a very strange belief system. Do you not believe that countries you haven't visited actually exist? And other people - when you can't see them, do you think that they aren't actually there any more? Am I really writing this, as you aren't in the room?
I'm not buying the broken cable story. Thirty years I've been cycling and never had a cable snap or seen it happen.
You have a very strange belief system. Do you not believe that countries you haven't visited actually exist? And other people - when you can't see them, do you think that they aren't actually there any more? Am I really writing this, as you aren't in the room?
It isn't a strange belief system, it is a well documented one called 'solipsism.' You are just a chaotic manifestation of my powerful and complex psyche. Enjoy your oblivion. [save]
One brake = single point of failure.
If you are going to rely on that system, make sure you maintain it, considering it contributes to keeping you alive. Brake cables don't just go from new to breaking under load overnight.
One brake = single point of failure.
If you are going to rely on that system, make sure you maintain it, considering it contributes to keeping you alive. Brake cables don't just go from new to breaking under load overnight.
If it's fixed wheel then it isn't "one brake" - it's 2 independent brakes (assuming no brake on the rear wheel, otherwise there are 3 brakes). It's like riding a freewheel and having a brake cable snap - you still have the other brake, but you'd probably want some front wheel stopping power!
I ran a red today. Was a bit surprised at myself, hadn't planned it, wasn't in a hurry. I think I was just angry at all the cars buzzing me at 30mph and wanted to get away from the upcoming box junction that was on green man phase. I was turning right; not a nice place to stand, the middle of the box. You'd be dead in a second if things went wrong. It's all about infrastructure, in the end, after the huffing and puffing.
I ride through this junction most days and have seen plenty of cars run the red going right. I've seen cyclists run the red too but never like that. The biggest danger at this junction though is pedestrians running their red. I never seem to see many comments about that!
the cyclist started going through the lights while they changing, contrary to the Highway Code, which says red and amber “means ‘Stop’. Do not pass through or start until green shows.”
Somewhere there is a motorist who follows this bit of the highway code, but I'm not sure I've ever encountered the fellow.
[Cyclist in the (first) video does look like a kamikaze idiot, though, as ever, just think how much worse it would have been for whoever they hit had they done that while driving a motorised vehicle]
The light goes amber at 8s he is some 20m behind the cab and it is about 5m from the lights and slowing. He doesn't cross the red lights until 14s. He had 5-6s to react to the changing lights but he didn't try to brake until he was in the junction. Even if the brake (singular?) failed there is no excuse for gunning the lights, either he chose to try to shoot them unwisely, or he failed to look at them (should know the route, or be riding more carefully if unfamiliar.)
I hear from people who know him (Manc rider) that he always stops at red lights, though often last possible minute, but in this case his brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough distance to skid stop. Seems a fair enough explanation.
I hear from people who know him (Manc rider) that he always stops at red lights, though often last possible minute, but in this case his brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough distance to skid stop. Seems a fair enough explanation.
Yeah it does look more like a crash rather than a RLJ.
I hear from people who know him (Manc rider) that he always stops at red lights, though often last possible minute, but in this case his brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough distance to skid stop. Seems a fair enough explanation.
Looks like he has responded on Youtube. From a Charlie Baker
Quote:
It was me. Thought i'd just get the lights, hence the speed. Realised it wasn't happening, squeezed the front brake. Cable snapped. Not enough time to lose speed on back wheel in the wet.
Not fun.
Looks like he has responded on Youtube. From a Charlie Baker
Quote:
It was me. Thought i'd just get the lights, hence the speed. Realised it wasn't happening, squeezed the front brake. Cable snapped. Not enough time to lose speed on back wheel in the wet.
Not fun.
[/quote]
Really?
The light is clearly on red before he passes the lane directions painted in the road.
The second video the HGV obviously RLJ'd but not a single person mentions that. Just pointing out a cyclist who is a bit keen to go.
Not a single person, except the author of the article, the person who posted the video, and most of the people commenting on it.
Still not enough though - that ought to be the main point. The cyclist got his come-uppance for going too soon - that has to be a learning experience for them, surely?
Trouble is, the lorry driver probably learned nothing.
The second video the HGV obviously RLJ'd but not a single person mentions that. Just pointing out a cyclist who is a bit keen to go.
Not a single person, except the author of the article, the person who posted the video, and most of the people commenting on it.
Still not enough though - that ought to be the main point. The cyclist got his come-uppance for going too soon - that has to be a learning experience for them, surely?
Trouble is, the lorry driver probably learned nothing.
RLJing by motorists is too widely tolerated.
You're preaching to the choir mate. But you must admit, it's quite funny to say "not a single person mentions that", when even the video itself has "Lorry RLJ" in the title!
If you watch the vid closely the black cab in front goes through the red light as well
Rider is completely in the wrong but i wonder if he didn't notice the red light and just followed the taxi through
We all make mistakes now and again and Ive accidentally gone through a red light before, due to a momentarily lack of concentration, luckily nothing was coming the other way
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I've never had it happen, but I've seen people snap a cable (on an otherwise well maintained bike) on a club run. It does happen!
I'm not buying the broken cable story. Thirty years I've been cycling and never had a cable snap or seen it happen.
You have a very strange belief system. Do you not believe that countries you haven't visited actually exist? And other people - when you can't see them, do you think that they aren't actually there any more? Am I really writing this, as you aren't in the room?
It isn't a strange belief system, it is a well documented one called 'solipsism.' You are just a chaotic manifestation of my powerful and complex psyche. Enjoy your oblivion. [save]
I dis like the title of the video.
I wonder if the motor cyclist considers this to be Schadenfreude too ?
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/12963723.Motorcyclist_fights_for_life_an...
A situation in itself cannot be considered to be schadenfreude. One derives it from a situation.
And I seriously doubt he would have titled the video like so if the cyclist was fighting for his life in hospital.
One brake = single point of failure.
If you are going to rely on that system, make sure you maintain it, considering it contributes to keeping you alive. Brake cables don't just go from new to breaking under load overnight.
If it's fixed wheel then it isn't "one brake" - it's 2 independent brakes (assuming no brake on the rear wheel, otherwise there are 3 brakes). It's like riding a freewheel and having a brake cable snap - you still have the other brake, but you'd probably want some front wheel stopping power!
He was riding like a dick though - wet roads too.
His brake cable snapped.
I ran a red today. Was a bit surprised at myself, hadn't planned it, wasn't in a hurry. I think I was just angry at all the cars buzzing me at 30mph and wanted to get away from the upcoming box junction that was on green man phase. I was turning right; not a nice place to stand, the middle of the box. You'd be dead in a second if things went wrong. It's all about infrastructure, in the end, after the huffing and puffing.
What a pair of tossers, hope the skid marks last a long time
Pedestrians can't run red. The red man is a warning it might not be safe, not a stop signal. (The red bike on toucans is the same.)
I ride through this junction most days and have seen plenty of cars run the red going right. I've seen cyclists run the red too but never like that. The biggest danger at this junction though is pedestrians running their red. I never seem to see many comments about that!
Somewhere there is a motorist who follows this bit of the highway code, but I'm not sure I've ever encountered the fellow.
[Cyclist in the (first) video does look like a kamikaze idiot, though, as ever, just think how much worse it would have been for whoever they hit had they done that while driving a motorised vehicle]
The light goes amber at 8s he is some 20m behind the cab and it is about 5m from the lights and slowing. He doesn't cross the red lights until 14s. He had 5-6s to react to the changing lights but he didn't try to brake until he was in the junction. Even if the brake (singular?) failed there is no excuse for gunning the lights, either he chose to try to shoot them unwisely, or he failed to look at them (should know the route, or be riding more carefully if unfamiliar.)
this is why anyone who advocates cyclists ok to go through on red are fools
Muppet!
Sorry mate, I didn't see you!
Sorry mate, I didn't see you!
Its not worth it. It really isn't.
I hear from people who know him (Manc rider) that he always stops at red lights, though often last possible minute, but in this case his brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough distance to skid stop. Seems a fair enough explanation.
Yeah it does look more like a crash rather than a RLJ.
Looks like he has responded on Youtube. From a Charlie Baker
Looks like he has responded on Youtube. From a Charlie Baker
[/quote]
Really?
The light is clearly on red before he passes the lane directions painted in the road.
The second video the HGV obviously RLJ'd but not a single person mentions that. Just pointing out a cyclist who is a bit keen to go.
Not a single person, except the author of the article, the person who posted the video, and most of the people commenting on it.
Still not enough though - that ought to be the main point. The cyclist got his come-uppance for going too soon - that has to be a learning experience for them, surely?
Trouble is, the lorry driver probably learned nothing.
RLJing by motorists is too widely tolerated.
You're preaching to the choir mate. But you must admit, it's quite funny to say "not a single person mentions that", when even the video itself has "Lorry RLJ" in the title!
And if you want to see some ridiculous red light jumping, try ten seconds after the lights change - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtTIYREyI4Q
If you watch the vid closely the black cab in front goes through the red light as well
Rider is completely in the wrong but i wonder if he didn't notice the red light and just followed the taxi through
We all make mistakes now and again and Ive accidentally gone through a red light before, due to a momentarily lack of concentration, luckily nothing was coming the other way
Sorry mate, I didn't see you!
Watch closely, actually two red light jumpers in the first video.
I've seen the second one before, and you have to be so prepared for traffic that will push through late on an amber or even red signal.
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