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Police tape (CC licensed by freefotouk on Flickr)Police appeal to find Edinburgh cyclist after motorcyclist dies following collision
Police in Edinburgh are appealing for a cyclist to contact them after a motorcyclist died following a collision in the Scottish capital on Friday.
Duncan MacIver, aged 52 and from Edinburgh, died in hospital following the collision which happened on the Western Approach Road at the junction with Roseburn Street at 5.20pm on the evening of Friday 25 November.
His female pillion passenger was also thrown from Mr MacIver’s Suzuki motorcycle in the crash, but was uninjured, say Police Scotland.
The cyclist involved in the collision, described as a white male aged around 50 years, wearing dark clothing and riding a dark coloured bike, remained at the scene initially but left before police arrived.
Police Scotland say it is unknown whether the cyclist was injured, and have appealed for him to come forward to help them with their investigation.
Sergeant Ross Drummond from the Road Policing Unit said: “It is possible that the pedal cyclist did not realise the seriousness of the collision when he left the scene and I ask that he now comes forward to assist us in establishing the full circumstances of the incident
“In addition, anyone with any further information is also asked to get in touch.”
Officers can be reached via 101 or alternatively through the charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Looks like the police are out to victimise pedestrians too for not wearing hi-vis
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"The first suspect is described as a white man with a local accent who was described as wearing a dark hooded top at the time of the incident, possibly with white sleeves.
The second suspect is described as a white man with a local accent who was described as wearing a dark blue hooded top at the time of the incident.
The third suspect is described as a white man with a local accent who was described as wearing a dark hooded top at the time of the incident."
http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news/2016/september/robber...
Or maybe it is just a useful description for helping to identify who the people are? No, that would be crazy.......
I fail to see how so much can be inferred from a very normal Police appeal for a person connected to a serious incident to come forward and help with investigations.
I think it is entirely unhelpful to open these stories for comment or as a platform for personal agenda bordering on paranoid dellusion.
If you witnessed this incident then contact the Police. If you know the cyclist involved then support them in coming forward. If you are entirely uninvolved then have the good grace to simply offer condolences to the breaved.
My condolences to the family and friends of Mr MacIver.
But how could the motorcyclist have died? He was wearing a helmet, and as we all know, they prevent death.
The results from the UK and USA helmet laws for motorcyclists is very similar to that of the cycle helmet laws in Oz and NZ i.e. no proven benefit. Sure the death rate of motorcyclists dropped in the UK when the motorcycle helmet law came in, but only between the hours of 2300 and 0100, so unless the magic hats suddenly had their magic turned on between those hours, the drop was due to something else. What changed at the same time? The breathalyser was introduced, a far more likely explanation of the facts than magic hats. Similar in the USA, with no proven effect.
No body says this; no need to be facetious.
You fucking horrible piece of shit - you go push your fucking agenda to the family of the motorcylist ivolved. Go talk about statistics, cause and effect and whole ridiculous helmet debate elsewhere - someone is not going home, ever.
Dark clothing could just be a description of the cyclist? It was dark anyway so colours don't matter that much.
Cycling is prohibited on the West Approach Road.
Details again road.cc... Your journalism is undermined when you are careless with letters and words.
Key point "at the junction with Roseburn Street" (where cycling is allowed). Entirely plausible that one or other party disregarded the traffic lights and the collision resulted. Should have been busy enough there for witnesses though, but being Embra they were probably rushing home for tea...
Wouldn't that be Westfield Road?
Correct. Westfield Road, Roseburn Street and the Western Approach all meet at their end points. The cyclist was presumably transiting between Roseburn Street and Westfield Road as cyclists are not allowed on the Western Approach. This is an area normally clogged in rush hour. If I were a gambling man I would bet on the motorcyclist overtaking stationary traffic and taking out the cyclist as he emerged onto the junction, but that's just a guess based on knowledge of the junction and the motorcyclist's direction of travel. The area is also very well lit.
The crash could've been caused by several factors. The way you've written your comment suggests that the motorcyclist may have been at fault, which you simply do not know with the information given in the police report. If I was a family member of the deceased, I'd be very upset at that.
It's just as likely that the cyclist popped out from a line of stationary motor vehicles in front of the motorcyclist. This happened to me on my commute this morning. I was filtering carefully on my motorbike when a cyclist cut through the stuck cars. She got a very big fright. She hadn't looked properly or anticipated, but she should have known I was there as I was alongside her at the previous set of traffic lights. Luckily for both of us I was riding carefully.
With my motorcyclist helmet on, I do find that many cyclists do not appreciate other road users will also be filtering. I think most experienced motorcyclists appreciate that any collision with any other road user will not end well, and will therefore try and avoid it. The same does not apply to the organ donors to be riding scooters on L plates though.
Just for the record...I was not on a dark bike. I had lights front and back and spare set in bag. The bike had many 3M reflective stickers on the frame so as to be seen from the side. I have gone through this junction hundreds of times. I had a navy jacket on. There was only one single car to my right, which was indicating to turn left into Roseburn Street where I was stationary. When I considered it safe to emerge from junction I took a direct line in the direction of the other side of the road where there is a wide layby. I saw no motorcycle and the road to my right is lit and curves in my favour. I was knocked unconscious and I believe the motorcyclist died of a heart attack on the way to hospital. This was a terrible accident and nobody was to blame. I took legal advise two days later and made a full voluntary statement to the police.
Speculation and assumption doesn't seem appropriate or particularly sensitive toward those directly involved.
Yeah, reading the "dark clothing" comment they already have their scapegoat.