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Chris Hayes wrote:

For the most part Road.cc has been an oasis free of Brexit-bile over the past three years.  Can we keep it that way keyboard warriors?  Take your aggression out on your pedals with the Festive 500...

Well said that man!

A little patience and goodwill goes a long way, just as it does on the road.

handlebarcam wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

If you're against austerity and against rising government debt and pro EU then your position is stupid as the three cannot all be achieved.

Visit Scandinavia.

Travel advice aside, how is that relevant to a discussion about the management of the deficit post 2008 financial crisis?

HarrogateSpa wrote:

"So much stupidity in one post." Rich CB

A minute ago you were quoting Brendan Cox, on how we should respect those who disagree with us.

You can dish it out, but you want to weaponise the genuinely decent Brendan Cox, to try to stop other people being brutally honest about you or Johnson.

Read the quote.

It said we shouldn't demonise the other side but we should put our points across passionately.

If someone says something stupid you can tell them that without demonising them.

If you're against austerity and against rising government debt and pro EU then your position is stupid as the three cannot all be achieved.

Likewise if you try to pretend that the GE result was a mandate for remain yet ignore the actual referendum result.

That's a stupid position.

Claiming that the leader of the most popular political party is not part of the political mainstream?

That's stupid.

It also infers he is an extremist which does go against what Brendan Cox said.

I'm not sure he's entirely decent mind. Might want to Google the accusations against him.

HarrogateSpa wrote:

Thing is, alexuk, Johnson said a fitting way to honour murdered Remain/Labour MP Jo Cox would be to "Get Brexit Done". That's one example of his sickening behaviour. There are lots more examples.

So don't pretend this is a normal, civilised politician. We're talking about a very nasty, moral vacuum of a man. Don't be surprised if people react to his appalling statements and behaviour.

In response to Johnson's comments Brendan Cox said this:

"The best way to honour Jo is for all of us (no matter our views) to stand up for what we believe in, passionately and with determination. But never to demonise the other side and always hold onto what we have in common."

Think about that.

alexuk wrote:

There's a lot of.....edited to remove trolling. 

"mainstream political persuasion" Mr Johnson? Are we speaking about the same Mr Johnson here?

The same Mr Johnson whose party oversaw the death of 130 000 people due to their benefit policies? The same Mr Johnson whose party cut the police to the bone so now its not safe , at times, to go out on the streets for fear of being killed by drunk or drugged up drivers; the same Mr Johnson whose stupidity saw a women's prison sentence increased; the same Mr Johnson who ran away from debates as he knew he would lose and be exposed as a fraud; the same Mr Johnson whose party is quite happy for hundreds of thousands of people to be homeless at Christmas; the same Mr Johnson who refused to publish the Russian Report; the same Mr Johnson who has just sold off one of our major defence contracts; the same Mr Johnson whose party has seen our national debt rise by nearly £1tn over 9 years; the same Mr Johnson who made more racist statements than the average racist would ever do and the same Mr Johnson who is dragging the UK out of the EU when the majority of people who voted in the General Election voted for parties who would either remain, or wanted to put the final say back to the British people....that Mr Johnson?

Sorry, to call Mr Johnson "mainstream" is beyond a joke. I do not wish anyone ill but Mr Johnson and the Tories do push my karma to the limit.  As I said above, ignore Mr Johnson. His Russian and American owners will see him right. If you have spare cash this Christmas then give it to a food bank. It is beyond me how we need Food Banks in the 21st C but then again, we have been Toried so I suppose it follows as night follows day. 

essexian wrote:

"mainstream political persuasion" Mr Johnson? Are we speaking about the same Mr Johnson here?

 

The same Mr Johnson whose party oversaw the death of 130 000 people due to their benefit policies? The same Mr Johnson whose party cut the police to the bone so now its not safe , at times, to go out on the streets for fear of being killed by drunk or drugged up drivers; the same Mr Johnson whose stupidity saw a women's prison sentence increased; the same Mr Johnson who ran away from debates as he knew he would lose and be exposed as a fraud; the same Mr Johnson whose party is quite happy for hundreds of thousands of people to be homeless at Christmas; the same Mr Johnson who refused to publish the Russian Report; the same Mr Johnson who has just sold off one of our major defence contracts; the same Mr Johnson whose party has seen our national debt rise by nearly £1tn over 9 years; the same Mr Johnson who made more racist statements than the average racist would ever do and the same Mr Johnson who is dragging the UK out of the EU when the majority of people who voted in the General Election voted for parties who would either remain, or wanted to put the final say back to the British people....that Mr Johnson?

 

Sorry, to call Mr Johnson "mainstream" is beyond a joke. I do not wish anyone ill but Mr Johnson and the Tories do push my karma to the limit.  As I said above, ignore Mr Johnson. His Russian and American owners will see him right. If you have spare cash this Christmas then give it to a food bank. It is beyond me how we need Food Banks in the 21st C but then again, we have been Toried so I suppose it follows as night follows day.&nbsp

So much stupidity in one post.

It's quite an achievement.

Rich_cb wrote:

essexian wrote:

"mainstream political persuasion" Mr Johnson? Are we speaking about the same Mr Johnson here?

 

The same Mr Johnson whose party oversaw the death of 130 000 people due to their benefit policies? The same Mr Johnson whose party cut the police to the bone so now its not safe , at times, to go out on the streets for fear of being killed by drunk or drugged up drivers; the same Mr Johnson whose stupidity saw a women's prison sentence increased; the same Mr Johnson who ran away from debates as he knew he would lose and be exposed as a fraud; the same Mr Johnson whose party is quite happy for hundreds of thousands of people to be homeless at Christmas; the same Mr Johnson who refused to publish the Russian Report; the same Mr Johnson who has just sold off one of our major defence contracts; the same Mr Johnson whose party has seen our national debt rise by nearly £1tn over 9 years; the same Mr Johnson who made more racist statements than the average racist would ever do and the same Mr Johnson who is dragging the UK out of the EU when the majority of people who voted in the General Election voted for parties who would either remain, or wanted to put the final say back to the British people....that Mr Johnson?

 

Sorry, to call Mr Johnson "mainstream" is beyond a joke. I do not wish anyone ill but Mr Johnson and the Tories do push my karma to the limit.  As I said above, ignore Mr Johnson. His Russian and American owners will see him right. If you have spare cash this Christmas then give it to a food bank. It is beyond me how we need Food Banks in the 21st C but then again, we have been Toried so I suppose it follows as night follows day.&nbsp

So much stupidity in one post. It's quite an achievement.

So do you want to state the bits that were wrong? The only thing I can see in the above that can't currently be backed up with basic evidence is the Russian / American owners. 

Rich_cb wrote:

essexian wrote:

"mainstream political persuasion" Mr Johnson? Are we speaking about the same Mr Johnson here?

 

The same Mr Johnson whose party oversaw the death of 130 000 people due to their benefit policies? The same Mr Johnson whose party cut the police to the bone so now its not safe , at times, to go out on the streets for fear of being killed by drunk or drugged up drivers; the same Mr Johnson whose stupidity saw a women's prison sentence increased; the same Mr Johnson who ran away from debates as he knew he would lose and be exposed as a fraud; the same Mr Johnson whose party is quite happy for hundreds of thousands of people to be homeless at Christmas; the same Mr Johnson who refused to publish the Russian Report; the same Mr Johnson who has just sold off one of our major defence contracts; the same Mr Johnson whose party has seen our national debt rise by nearly £1tn over 9 years; the same Mr Johnson who made more racist statements than the average racist would ever do and the same Mr Johnson who is dragging the UK out of the EU when the majority of people who voted in the General Election voted for parties who would either remain, or wanted to put the final say back to the British people....that Mr Johnson?

 

Sorry, to call Mr Johnson "mainstream" is beyond a joke. I do not wish anyone ill but Mr Johnson and the Tories do push my karma to the limit.  As I said above, ignore Mr Johnson. His Russian and American owners will see him right. If you have spare cash this Christmas then give it to a food bank. It is beyond me how we need Food Banks in the 21st C but then again, we have been Toried so I suppose it follows as night follows day.&nbsp

So much stupidity in one post. It's quite an achievement.

Troll.  No further comment required. 

essexian wrote:

"mainstream political persuasion" Mr Johnson? Are we speaking about the same Mr Johnson here?

 

The same Mr Johnson whose party oversaw the death of 130 000 people due to their benefit policies? The same Mr Johnson whose party cut the police to the bone so now its not safe , at times, to go out on the streets for fear of being killed by drunk or drugged up drivers; the same Mr Johnson whose stupidity saw a women's prison sentence increased; the same Mr Johnson who ran away from debates as he knew he would lose and be exposed as a fraud; the same Mr Johnson whose party is quite happy for hundreds of thousands of people to be homeless at Christmas; the same Mr Johnson who refused to publish the Russian Report; the same Mr Johnson who has just sold off one of our major defence contracts; the same Mr Johnson whose party has seen our national debt rise by nearly £1tn over 9 years; the same Mr Johnson who made more racist statements than the average racist would ever do and the same Mr Johnson who is dragging the UK out of the EU when the majority of people who voted in the General Election voted for parties who would either remain, or wanted to put the final say back to the British people....that Mr Johnson?

 

Sorry, to call Mr Johnson "mainstream" is beyond a joke. I do not wish anyone ill but Mr Johnson and the Tories do push my karma to the limit.  As I said above, ignore Mr Johnson. His Russian and American owners will see him right. If you have spare cash this Christmas then give it to a food bank. It is beyond me how we need Food Banks in the 21st C but then again, we have been Toried so I suppose it follows as night follows day.

All right, but apart from the benefit policies, the policing, increasing a sentence unnecesarily, debate dodging, the homelessness, the Russian Report, selling defence contracts, increasing national debt and the racism, what have the Tories ever done to us?