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Just in: Comtat Aristo

We're not going to be dazzled by its looks come testing time, but for the moment…

There are black carbon bikes and there are black carbon bikes* but if If bike tests were beauty contests then the new Comtat Aristo would be heading for a perfect score even before we threw a leg over it. They're not though so although its classically restrained looks drew a chorus of appreciative oohs when it emerged from the box those looks won't be influencing us when it comes to the leg throwing over bit of its visit to road.cc towers. 

For the moment though we'll allow ourselves a bit of chin stroking and sighing… honestly this is one good looking bike. Possibly it's the thick lustre of the six clear coats of lacquer applied to the beautifully hand laid carbon… yeah okay, all carbon frames are laid up by hand but in this case form and function combine to particularly pleasing effect, well, if you like black carbon bikes they do. Through the lacquer you can see the way the weave changes at the points were the lugs meet the tubes. We like stuff like that. All those coats of lacquer also mean that the Aristo is one beauty whose looks shouldn't fade.

 

That's probably going to be important to you if you shell out for one because Comtat's 2011 bikes are considerably more expensive than last year's models. That's because Comtat have taken the decision to move their production a few thousand miles west from Taiwan to Italy in search of bespoke boutique quality. For 2011 the London-based outfit have teamed up with the frame building brains behind some of Italy's top high end brands. The result is a two bike range comprising the Aristo and the full custom Sartorial.

Billed as having performance every bit as smooth as its looks the Aristo is designed to be an all day riding bike, but it's also very much a performance machine. Comfort is very much in the mix but geometry is much more towards the racier end of the sportive spectrum and while it doesn't have the full on aggressive stance of an out and out race machine - it's certainly looks like something you'd be happy to race on.

We certainly don't expect Mat to be held back by the weight once he gets it out on the road: our complete bike built up with a full 11-spd Campag Chorus groupset and Fulcrum Racing 1 wheels grazed the road.cc scales at a mere 7.2Kg (15.8lb). The Italian theme continues in the rest of the finishing kit with Deda supplying Presa lightweight carbon bars, Zero stem, and Superzero carbon seat post, while the saddle is Selle Italia's SLR Carbonio. The only non-Italian bits of the bike are the Continental GP 4000 tyres and Comtat's own lightweight carbon bottle cages. That lot will set you back £3200 in its off the peg guise.

As well as complete bike packages the Aristo is available as a frameset. The standard frameset is yours for £1599.99 (for the sake of saving some pixels let's call it £1600). For an extra hundred you can have the Aristo ISP with integrated seat post and for a penny short of £2000 you can have the custom option with a choice of standard or integrated seat posts and a free fitting session from Velosolutions which must be worth a few bob in its own right - that's where Mat got fitted for his custom made Viner Maxima. That is competitive pricing for a handmade custom carbon Italian frame.

At first sight the frame itself is a pretty classic affair, and for the most part those looks aren't deceptive, there's no fancy dan assymetric head tube here, or BB30 bottom bracket (although that is an option if you opt for the custom route) no a la mode internal cable routing either, although it does come with some classy looking Nokon cables (okay, chalk up another non-Italian component). Tubes are round and construction is lugged – although we aren't talking big old chunky lugs here, instead say Comtat secret Italian skills are deployed in the autoclave where the tubes are bonded together under such pressure that the resin is forced out and the carbon becomes melded together as one hence the change in pattern that can be seen through the laquer at the point where the tubes join – this system sounds similar to the carbon to carbon system used by Trek.

While everything looks suitably restrained and classic up front the rear triangle dares to be different with some beautifully sculpted seat and chainstays which, Comtat tell us, aren't there just to look good. The idea is to add extra control in fast corners to minimise the chances of the back end stepping out to that end the chainstays in particular change profile radically from the mid section to the rear where they flare and flatten horizontally from the rounder front section, not something I can remember seeing before. It sounds like an interesting idea and I'm sure Matthew will enjoy chucking it in to plenty of corners in the coming weeks.

*If black carbon isn't your thing there will also be an anthracite and white version available soon.

road.cc's founder and first editor, nowadays to be found riding a spreadsheet. Tony's journey in cycling media started in 1997 as production editor and then deputy editor of Total Bike, acting editor of Total Mountain Bike and then seven years as editor of Cycling Plus. He launched his first cycling website - the Cycling Plus Forum at the turn of the century. In 2006 he left C+ to head up the launch team for Bike Radar which he edited until 2008, when he co-launched the multi-award winning road.cc - finally handing on the reins in 2021 to Jack Sexty. His favourite ride is his ‘commute’ - which he does most days inc weekends and he’s been cycle-commuting since 1994. His favourite bikes are titanium and have disc brakes, though he'd like to own a carbon bike one day.

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kempo | 13 years ago
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this has jumped right to the top of my list - I've been saving for a big upgrade and this looks like it could be the winner. looking forward to the review!

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PRINCIPIA PHIL | 13 years ago
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It was Bob Parlee who once said "you won't find any riveted cable stops on our frames", and for me it's a tiny detail that smacks of cost cutting and makes me wonder if the rivet holes weren't the only compromises in the design.
So, thanks but no thanks - but i'll have one of Bob's bike's, now that's what i call a classy rig.

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Gregoire500 | 13 years ago
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interesting perspective handlebarcam, a bit harsh though imhop

personally I think this bike looks great, and love the fact that it isn't trying to be some over the top batmobile-type design that relies more on marketing-speak than science to qualify it, or is bedecked in really really LARGE logos.

It's subtle, understated looks appeal to me and I'd wager it would outperform any of the early carbon models by a long way in terms of weight and stiffness (and hopefully durability) and could rival any contemporary offering too.

So yes, serif font or no, I'm won over and would be game to trial it!

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velo evolve | 13 years ago
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Having bought one of these frames, I can safely say that the bike looks even more beautiful in the flesh. I bought the frame with ISP which personally I think looks even better.

Handles like a dream, light as a feather, can't wait to get out on it as much as possible this summer.

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Fringe replied to velo evolve | 13 years ago
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velo evolve wrote:

Having bought one of these frames, I can safely say that the bike looks even more beautiful in the flesh. I bought the frame with ISP which personally I think looks even better.

ISP... intergrated seat post?

nice.

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antonio | 13 years ago
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Black on a grey background hardly inspires, detailed inspection would be much easier with a bit more contrast.

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piedwagtail | 13 years ago
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I was thinking, just from viewing the photo at the top of the page, that it is one of the ugliest bikes I have seen in a while

There certainly is no accounting for taste  39

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alg | 13 years ago
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there is something about pure engineering expressed in the form of a bicycle which is exciting and satisfying just to look at - this one has it in abundance and for me a coat of paint would spoil it - if it goes anything like it looks it will be fantastic - I want one

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handlebarcam | 13 years ago
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If bike tests were beauty contests then the new Comtat Aristo would be heading for a perfect score even before we threw a leg over it. ...its classically restrained looks drew a chorus of appreciative oohs when it emerged from the box

There's no accounting for taste. I was thinking, just from viewing the photo at the top of the page, that it is one of the ugliest bikes I have seen in a while (not a long while, as there is never likely to be a shortage of ugly bikes, but at least since the last major trade show.)

Viewing the detailed photographs does nothing to dissuade me from my initial opinion, although I admit it may be prettier in the flesh that on the screen. I don't like plastic bikes at the best of times, but if you must build a bike out of the black stuff then at least make it futuristic and aerodynamic in ways that cannot be achieved with other materials. So-called "classically restrained" designs just remind me of the initial wave of crabon fibre that were almost universally awful. But then the seat and chain stays are less classical, somewhat Colnago-ish, but don't match the rest of the frame, and make it look like someone has crashed into the back of it with a 4x4. The naked crabon weave looks alternately like a layer of glitter or a layer of dust, depending on the angle of the light. And, IMHO, serif fonts are fine for in Word documents but don't work on bicycles.

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cat1commuter replied to handlebarcam | 13 years ago
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handlebarcam wrote:

There's no accounting for taste. I was thinking, just from viewing the photo at the top of the page, that it is one of the ugliest bikes I have seen in a while (not a long while, as there is never likely to be a shortage of ugly bikes, but at least since the last major trade show.)

I really like this bike. But a Pinarello Dogma - that's a truly fugly bike.

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Scotchio | 13 years ago
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Boy, She is a beauty!

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andylul | 13 years ago
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In the words of Fast Show's Charlie Higson

"I'm sorry, I've just Com"

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robert.brady | 13 years ago
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Oof! Just had a look at their website and think I have a new contender for my dream bike.

Rob

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