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Cyclists pollute more than cars, claims Swiss economist; Scary HGV close pass video sparks cycling infra debate; Why can’t all cyclist v driver clips be like this? Cyclist hits van and apologises; Arty bike stand divides opinion + more on the live blog

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15 November 2022, 11:32
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Cyclists pollute more than cars, claims Swiss economist (and something about beef)

Cyclists can be up to four times more damaging to the environment than cars… because of beef and milk, apparently.

Well, at least that’s the view of Professor Reiner Eichenberger, a specialist in fiscal and economic policy at the University of Fribourg, Switzerland.

“Today everything is climate. Many want to replace the car with public transport and bicycles. They believe that the latter burden society less and are climate-friendly. That’s wrong,” Professor Eichenberger, widely credited as one of Switzerland’s most influential economists, claimed in a column for the weekly German-language Swiss newspaper Handelszeitung.

In the, shall we say, intriguing column, Eichenberger goes on to claim that, according to figures from the Swiss Office for Spatial Development and the Federal Statistical Office, when it comes to noise, accidents, infrastructure and operating costs, public transport and cycling “cost many times more than the car”.

Even when the official stats suggest that people using public transport and bikes are more beneficial to the environment than motorist, Eichenberger argues this is “largely due” to the organisations’ “creative accounting” and “official tricks”.

So, how do cyclists harm the environment and impact climate change more than cars? Well, you see, it’s all down to beef (and not the kind typically found on the live blog comments section).

The economist writes:

Although the whole debate is about energy and climate, the bicycle is treated as a perpetual motion machine. But cyclists need additional energy. For this, they have to eat more, which puts a strain on the climate.

Economical cars need 5 litres of gasoline per 100 kilometres, causing 12kg of CO2 emissions, i.e. 120 grams per vehicle kilometre – and 30 grams per passenger kilometre for a four-person occupation.

Cyclists consume around 2500 kilocalories (kcal) per 100 kilometres during normal riding. They have to compensate for energy and muscle consumption through additional food intake. So, they would need about 1 kilo of beef for the 2500 kcal. This causes them to produce 13.3kg of CO2.

Meat-eating cyclists therefore cause 133 grams of CO2 per passenger-kilometre – four times the number of well-occupied cars. If they obtain driving energy from milk, they emit 35 grams of CO2 per passenger-kilometre, which is still almost 20 percent more than the car. Unfortunately, this miserable record also applies to vegans.

So, there you have it. Unless you’re propelled solely by noodles – which, the helpful professor points out, will lead to protein deficiency at some point – you’re harming the environment on your bike more than the queue of traffic on the way home from work.

The comments section for this one was particularly amusing, with some readers describing the article as a “laughing stock” and an “embarrassment”.

“Joggers and hikers are even worse than cyclists, because they need more food (due to the inefficient locomotion) per 100km. Pedestrians are the climate killers par excellence,” wrote one astute reader.

“A ‘professor for financial and economic policy’ who writes such rubbish shakes my belief in the Swiss education system. Or is this supposed to be (moderately funny) satire?”

I think he may be on to something there (or at least I hope so).

Over on Twitter, meanwhile, one user got to the heart of the matter: “Bike consumption: 1 kg of beef/100 km. How many cattle does a Miguel Induráin have on his conscience?”

The question that keeps me awake at night…

15 November 2022, 17:49
‘By that logic, body builders must be more damaging to the environment than nuclear meltdowns’: Reaction to Swiss professor’s ‘cyclists pollute more than cars’ theory

Professor Reiner Eichenberger’s theory that cyclists pollute more than cars – based on something to do with cows, I think – has baffled quite a few of our readers.

BalladOfStruth gamely tried to suss it all out, to no avail:

So, let me get this straight – to arrive at these numbers, he’s:

  • Based his consumption-per-kilometre figures on what a cyclist would eat to fuel a long endurance ride and applied this to shorter rides where most cyclists wouldn’t eat anything extra (I never used to eat extra calories to fuel my commutes, despite his numbers assuming I’d need 200g of beef per day).
  • Based his figures on cyclists only eating just about the most inefficient and highest carbon-emitting food we are capable of creating (farmed beef). It looks like he has a pop at vegans too but doesn’t seem to quantify this with any numbers.
  • Ignored the fact that drivers will, in fact, also eat.
  • Compared cyclists only with “well occupied” cars, when we all know that most aren’t.
  • Compared cyclists only with “economical cars”, when many aren’t.
  • Ignored all other factors in running a car (waste products, fossil fuel production, manufacturing the vehicle, etc).

By his logic, body-builders must be more damaging to the environment than nuclear meltdowns. What utter, utter nonsense.

JustTryingToGet… also thought that the Swiss economist’s methodology needs a bit of work:

The numbers need to be re-run based on 1kg of cake.

Now there’s a study I could get behind…

15 November 2022, 09:55
HGV close pass in Balham (credit -Bill Hulley, Twitter)
“I don’t think the wand was stopping them”: Scary HGV close pass video sparks debate on safe infrastructure, dangerous driving, and “discourteous” cycling

When is cycling infrastructure not actually cycling infrastructure?

When a lorry driver can plough straight over the top of the traffic wands and into the bike lane, probably.

The above video, captured by cyclist Bill Hulley as he rode through Balham, south London, at the weekend, depicts quite a few hairy moments in just 40 seconds.

First, Bill narrowly squeezes between the overtaking HGV driver and a van protruding into the cycle lane from an adjoining road, before the lorry driver begins to veer into the bike lane, making light work of the light segregation in place by knocking over the wands like it was a game of Mario Kart.

“Could we have some kerbs on CS7 please?” Bill tweeted. “The wands are helpful but aren’t very good at deflecting HGVs.”

The rather frightening clip naturally prompted a debate on Twitter, about both the driving on display and the usefulness (or otherwise) of lightly segregated cycling infrastructure:

Local Labour councillor, active travel campaigner and live blog regular Jo Rigby – who has previously highlighted that paint does not necessarily equal infrastructure – responded to Bill’s clip by tweeting that “this is why I support the use of wands to protect Tooting and Battersea residents”.

Though some weren’t convinced:

Meanwhile, some Twitter users (both cyclists and motorists, it has to be said) preferred not to focus on the need for properly segregated bike lanes or the bowling alley-style driving on display, but instead chose to blast the cyclist’s “discourteous” riding (some stronger words may have been used):

And finally... 

15 November 2022, 14:54
Why can’t all cyclist vs driver clips be like this? Footage of cyclist apologising to motorist for hitting van goes viral

This clip is almost two months old, but has come on to our radar this week after the Sun shared it with the always fun and not-at-all-infuriating headline, “Watch as a cyclist smashes into the back of a van – nobody can believe how the men handle it”.

@norfolkdashcam The Van Driver was fine about the situation. No dramas. #Accident #Cyclist #Cycle #Van #Norfolk #NorfolkDashCam #UKRoads #DashCamFootage #DashCam #UKDashCam #CaughtOnCamera #Fail #CyclistsOfTiktok ♬ original sound - Norfolk Dash Cam

The video – posted on TikTok (which explains why we haven’t seen it) by the Norfolk Dash Cam account – depicts a cyclist exhibiting a lack of attention while riding through King’s Lynn and hitting the back of a van in the process. ‘Smashes’ may be overplaying the incident slightly, but hey, it’s the Sun.

After the bump, the cyclist then rides up to the van driver’s window to explain what had happened and apologise.

The motorist then – drumroll, please – replies: “Don’t worry, that’s alright.”

The extremely apologetic cyclist, perhaps surprised by the driver’s nonchalant response, continues to explain that he “slipped forward on my handlebars”, much to the chagrin of the motorists stopped behind the van, who sounded their displeasure through that age-old medium, the car horn.

Most of the TikTok users commenting on the video praised the decent, patient, and I would almost say human, interaction between the two road users, with one writing that it was “so nice he owned up to it” and that there was “no damage done” in any case.

However, as is always the case with these things, other users decided to have a go as anti-cycling bingo callers, with one writing (with more than a hint of sarcasm, I suspect), “No doubt the cyclist has insurance to pay for any damages anyway.”

“They need insurance if they’re gunna use the roads”, “Cyclist insurance details pls lol”, and “This is why cyclists should have to have insurance!” came some of the other original responses to the video.

Filling out the rest of the bingo card, one TikTok user – failing to distinguish between a bit of metal and an actual human being – said, “Now, if it been the van touching the cyclist…”

“One in a million. A cyclist that apologises,” another wrote.

Ah, you can’t win them all, can you?

15 November 2022, 16:57
Stupid things motorists say about cyclists, part 653: ‘I’m not saying you should run people down…’
15 November 2022, 16:30
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Dutch cycling organisation concerned about rising popularity of electric fat bikes

Dutch Cyclists’ Union Fietsersbond, which campaigns for the expansion and improvement of cycling infrastructure in the Netherlands, has expressed its concerns about the growth in popularity of electric ‘fat bikes’ in the country.

According to Fietsersbond’s Ester van Garderen, electric bikes with fat tyres have surged in popularity since the Netherlands made helmets mandatory for scooter users. Van Garderen told the Telegraaf that the bikes can also be easily fitted with an illegal throttle lever that can increase their maximum speed from 25kph to 50kph.

They drive very fast,” Van Garderen said. “And you don’t hear them coming because of the electric drive.”

The Telegraaf has linked the popularity of these enhanced e-bikes among teenagers to the surge in serious cycling incidents involving young people aged between 12 and 17 in recent years.

The Fietsersbond says it has received several complaints from concerned road users about the fat bikes. “And rightly so, because don’t forget that about 600 people die in traffic every year,” Van Garderen added. “People aged 60 and older hardly dare to use the bicycle path anymore.”

15 November 2022, 15:36
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Lachlan Morton set to target Mark Beaumont’s round-the-world record

Lachlan Morton, the Australian currently redefining what it means to be a professional cyclist, is not beginning to turn his attention towards possibly his biggest two-wheeled adventure yet: breaking Mark Beaumont’s round-the-world record.

Scottish endurance cyclist Beaumont set the current Guinness world record in 2017, when he circumnavigated the globe by bike (covering 29,000km) in just 79 days, despite a strong headwind and a crash in the Pyrenees slowing his progress as he neared his final destination, Paris.

> Mark Beaumont completes round-the-world ride in 79 days to smash Guinness World Record

EF Education-EasyPost pro Morton is, of course, no stranger to epic, long-distance rides. In March, he cycled over 1,000km non-stop from Munich to Poland’s border with Ukraine to raise funds for refugees fleeing the war-torn country.

The year before, the Australian rode the entire route of the Tour de France, including transfers, solo and unsupported – and even sometimes in crocs.

> Data reveals huge strain of Lachlan Morton’s solo Alt Tour vs. EF-Education Nippo’s Tour de France efforts

Now, his EF team boss Jonathan Vaughters – who has also encouraged Morton to take part in the fledgling gravel scene – has told Cycling Weekly that the next big aim will be to break Beaumont’s record, though it may have to wait until 2024.

“What we wanted to do was to try the around the world record [in the second half of 2023], but the sticking point on that right now is Russia,” Vaughters said.

“We don’t think that’s going to be possible next year, so we’re trying to come up with a plan B right now. What that is, we’re not sure yet.”

Lachlan Morton - Photo Credit Grubers 05

While JV maintains that Morton remains “very keen” to break the round-the-world record, the current geopolitical situation means that a proper crack at gravel racing will will constitute his main goal for 2023.

“He won’t be doing any road races, really,” Vaughters said. “In the early part of the year he wants to get away from doing real ultra events and kind of focus on trying to win in gravel.

“He has lost a lot of his explosive power from doing these massive 4,000km events. So, he’s training a little bit more in an explosive manner.”

Morton confirmed to Cycling Weekly that he had spoken with the team about a proposed round-the-world attempt, though there was “nothing concrete” yet.

15 November 2022, 14:14
One for the scrapbook
15 November 2022, 12:43
Tickets for the Dublin round of the UCI Cyclocross World Cup on sale now

With Wout van Aert reportedly set to confirm that he will be making the trip to Ireland next month, you definitely won’t want to miss this one…

15 November 2022, 12:23
Toto Tuesday

Come for the close pass videos, stay for the 2000s-era pro cycling nostalgia…

Ah, Toto Commesso, everyone’s favourite goateed, sleeveless noughties cult hero.

Does anyone else remember the brilliant ‘As the Toto Turns’ comic strip created by the US cycling website NYVelocity and featured briefly in Cycle Sport magazine?

Just me then? Well, you missed out...

15 November 2022, 10:55
“The problem with Britain’s road culture in a snapshot”

More cycling-related ‘art’ for you this morning on the blog:

15 November 2022, 10:19
“Beautiful” or “bloody useless”? New bike stand divides opinion

This, ahem, interesting new bike stand at the KARST contemporary art gallery in Plymouth (flagged by road.cc reader hirsute in the comments section of yesterday’s live blog) has certainly divided opinion online:

What do you think? A contemporary art masterpiece or a prime example of form over function?

Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to OnTheRopes | 1 year ago
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I can think of lots of things that people aren't doing that is newsworthy. See: politicians not doing their jobs.

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ktache | 1 year ago
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I have seen a "who produces more CO2" thing before. They decided the cyclist were getting the extra calories from air transported South American asparagus. Also complete nonsense/work of great irony.

I'm not rating the competence (or perhaps lack of bias) of Swiss economists.

And if average car occupancy is only 1.16, that would mean shifting a tonne per person. That's a lot

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chrisonabike replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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They were telling me bees couldn't fly a while back!

Clearly those Swiss economists have a lot of spare time.  You'd think they'd be busy watching the economy or economising the watches...

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Awavey replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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what was it Harry Lime said in 500 years they only invented the cuckoo clock

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Rendel Harris replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

what was it Harry Lime said in 500 years they only invented the cuckoo clock

Which is so unfair, because there's also Toblerone.

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chrisonabike replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Lazy stereotyping.  The Swiss have contributed lots to the world.  Like the Swiss Army Bike.  Look at all the attachments!

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eburtthebike replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Awavey wrote:

what was it Harry Lime said in 500 years they only invented the cuckoo clock

Which is so unfair, because there's also Toblerone.

And holes in cheese.

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IanMSpencer replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Average car weights far higher than 1 tonne these days. A naked Fiesta is 1.2 tonnes before you put passengers, fuel or furry dice in. A non-compact car is over 2 tonnes and a big SUV is heading for 3 tonnes.

I think his magic indirect calculation via fuel smacks of one of those calculations that prove that the force from cycle wheels destroys roads more than cars.

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levestane | 1 year ago
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In what possible way is an economist morally justified in commenting on the environment. Economics disregards the environment which is why we are in dire straits.

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IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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I can do 80 miles on little more than two rashers of bacon and an egg in a bap/barm/batch.

Powered by pig. Bacon will save the world.

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Flintshire Boy replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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Bun / roll / bin lid / stottie.

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Jem PT | 1 year ago
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Those fat e-bikes are surely the bike world's SUV? Bigger than necessary, but don't really achieve anything more than a 'normal' bike would?

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chrisonabike replied to Jem PT | 1 year ago
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No surprise. Here, many people buy cars for getting around and quite a lot of those cars are far bigger / more powerful than they need, even considering the market range.  In NL, many people buy cars AND bikes.  Similar story for both?

Marketing and "goes up to 11" feature inflation maybe.  If you're not especially interested in bikes but just want one to get around, why get a bike if you can afford an ebike?  Apparently the price difference from new may be closer in NL because normal bikes there are more full-featured / robust.  Same for manufacturers and shops - e.g. see this interview with a Dutch bike shop owner noting the amount this adds to turnover.

What may be interesting is why not everyone there has one yet.  Is it just that they are more expensive (and also tempting to thieves), or that it's so easy to get a standard bike (since most still are)?  "Flat" but "we have wind" over there and bridges can be steep!  E-bikes are heavy but the average Dutch bike isn't light either (build for living outdoors with little attention) and that doesn't matter if you're not pushing them uphill or carrying them up to your flat.  Or is it some other reason (up to and including "cutural" e.g. a Dutch tradition of not wanting to "stand out" / be seen to be too flashy)?

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Rendel Harris replied to Jem PT | 1 year ago
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Jem PT wrote:

Those fat e-bikes are surely the bike world's SUV? Bigger than necessary, but don't really achieve anything more than a 'normal' bike would?

I think they certainly wouldn't be attractive to people at the legal limit, however when chipped to do 50 km/h presumably people who aren't experienced cyclists feel safer on the massive tyres. I see several most days in London and I've yet to see one that seemed to be limited to 25 km/h.

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chrisonabike replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Just this afternoon I discovered what delivery folks and hooded sweater afficionados are hiding in those "dairylea triangle / vache qui rit" in the front triangle.  Disc brake poseurs note - there's nothing you can't stop with a cheap cantilever brake apparently:

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Mungecrundle | 1 year ago
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Swiss scientist discovers that people cycling or walking expend more calories than people sat on their fat arses in a car shocker.

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iandusud replied to Mungecrundle | 1 year ago
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Of course many cyclists don't consume more calories than motorists - they're just not fat!

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LeadenSkies replied to iandusud | 1 year ago
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LeadenSkies looks himself up and down. Decides he fails on both fronts! I definitely cycle to eat.

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Sriracha | 1 year ago
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Look, if there is a problem with the carbon footprint of the beef and dairy industry, you'd take it up with farmers, not cyclists. If you want to compare cyclists with motorists, taking calories into account, you'd assume they had a similar dietary balance.

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JustTryingToGet... | 1 year ago
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My inner child thinks fat bikes are cool and I'm planning to get one to ease my midlife crisis

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Secret_squirrel replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

My inner child thinks fat bikes are cool and I'm planning to get one to ease my midlife crisis

The Fatbikes piece is wierd.

I can only assume this is a perception thing.  There is nothing about an Fat eBike that doesnt apply to "normal" eBikes.  so its either simply the size of the things or the demographics of the riders (those bloody kids)

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JustTryingToGet... replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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Secret_squirrel wrote:

JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

My inner child thinks fat bikes are cool and I'm planning to get one to ease my midlife crisis

The Fatbikes piece is wierd.

I can only assume this is a perception thing.  There is nothing about an Fat eBike that doesnt apply to "normal" eBikes.  so its either simply the size of the things or the demographics of the riders (those bloody kids)

I suspect that demographics has something to do with it, with a corresponding over-reaction. No doubt some people act like absolute dicks on them and there is probably something attracting people who cycle like dicks to fat bikes... much like Audi/BMW seem to attract dick motorists though without hhe corresponding death rate.

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chrisonabike replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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Good call - if you're going to do the full MLC and shout it you should maybe go for a Jones - spaceframe design with front truss fork of course.  Titanium ideally.  Or if you want to stick to the road, go fast and fill your storage space then it has to be a velomobile!

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PRSboy | 1 year ago
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Good to see the cyclist/van driver clip.  Similarly, I rode into the back of a Jaguar outside a petrol station trying to point out a classic car to my riding buddy.  The driver was a lovely guy, who firstly was concerned I was ok, assured me that the paint mark would polish out, then offered to buy me a coffee to settle my nerves!

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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As a cyclist who exclusively exists on beef, washed down with the odd spot of alcohol, I can confirm the good professor's conclusions.

Intimations of side effects are grossly exaggerated.

Mooo.

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Sriracha replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Interestingly, fuelled on beef, cycling costs more per kilometer than driving.
From interwebs, 1 kg Swiss beef costs $50 (and that's eating it raw), whereas 5 litres of petrol costs just $10. If you lubricate the cyclist with alcohol costs can only escalate further.

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chrisonabike replied to Sriracha | 1 year ago
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Let me see if I've got this - so to save the planet that means ... that everyone should cycle everywhere but only drink petrol?  Would that help balance the budget too because motorists are a cash cow because of all the tax on fuel?

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Sriracha replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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I think you've nailed it.

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eburtthebike replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

Let me see if I've got this - so to save the planet that means ... that everyone should cycle everywhere but only drink petrol?

No, you haven't got this.  We should cycle everywhere but drink only alcohol; it's not as energy intense as petrol, but tastes nicer.  And it's plant based, as long as you ignore the yeastie things, and I'm not sure if they are plant or animal.

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ktache replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Fungi, own part in the what was 5 kingdom thingy.

Not quite sure what it's up to now, and I think there is a bit of a friendly debate about it (massive career destroying dispute?)

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