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Jeremy Vine almost hacked down by 'clown' in a car; Urán sorry for baby blunder; Brit drivers set for tougher phone rules; UK's longest bike path?; Porsche buy into e-bikes; What happened to pedal cars?; Cyclist frees goat + more on the live blog

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19 November 2021, 15:55
Jeremy Vine almost hacked down by 'clown' in a car

Jeremy Vine has long been fighting the good fight for cycle safety but he nearly came a cropper today courtesy of one totally oblivious motorist.

Fortunately the BBC Radio 2 presenter had his helmet camera on so was able to capture not one, but two major misdemeanours by the errant driver and their equally ignorant passenger which are now in the process of going viral across the internet. 

Fair play to the bystander who backed him up and we hope the 'clown of the day' will learn from his newfound infamy. 

19 November 2021, 16:36
We have a winner!

Earlier today we asked for your help in answering @WillamNB's question on Twitter where he asked "What's the UK's longest traffic-free cycle path (excluding MTB-type trails)?"

Well, step forward Mr Rob Ainsley who emailed in to tell us it's the 56-mile towpath along the Forth & Clyde and Union Canals between Glasgow and Edinburgh. 

Sustrans appears to back this up and we have absolutely no reason to doubt it, so hats off to you Rob! 

He also mentioned it's all smooth, car-free tarmac so we're now champing at the bit to give it a try.

19 November 2021, 15:03
Urán apologises for contentious training clip with daughter strapped to his chest

Professional cyclist Rigoberto Urán has returned to social media to make what looks like a slightly tongue-in-cheek apology for nearly breaking the internet a few days ago when he published a video of himself riding with his baby daughter strapped to his chest.

We covered the story in this very blog so only thought it decent to offer him the right of reply. 

This time around we find the Colombian rider in his jacuzzi at home promising "I won't do it again" whilst his daughter floats around in front of him wearing the same sunglasses she was donning in the now-deleted video which caused such a stir. 

Unfortunately, we don't speak fluent Spanish so can't understand everything he's saying, but in his accompanying post he writes "I screwed up, I won't do it again 🙏 it's been a while since I was scolded so much 😭."

Comedian or clown? We'll leave it for you to decide:
 

19 November 2021, 09:42
UK drivers set for tougher rules on phone usage
pimlico plumber using phone - via cycling mikey on twitter.PNG

There can't be many things more infuriating when you're out on the road than seeing a driver messing about with their phone. 

Well those drivers could now be in for a £200 fine and get six points on their licence after the UK Government announced plans today to toughen road safety laws.  

The BBC are reporting UK drivers will be banned from filming, taking photos, searching playlists and playing games on hand-held devices from next year (texting and calling on hand-helds is already illegal), and transport secretary Grant Shapps has said it will become easier to prosecute offenders.

The Highway Code is going to be updated to reflect the new rules but motorists will still be allowed to use hands-free devices while driving, if it's secured in a cradle, and make contactless payments while stationary.

Do you think these measures will make roads safer for cyclists? Let us know in the comments section below.

19 November 2021, 14:09
Answers in the comments section below please!

This post has caused great discussion among the road.cc editorial team.

Our suggestions included the High Peak Trail onto the Tissington Trail in the Peak Distrcit, the Tarka Trail which traverses North Devon and Exmoor, and the Ystwyth Trail in Wales, but can you top those?

19 November 2021, 14:06
Porsche move into e-bikes
Porsche Greyp e-bike

 

Porsche has furthered its move into the world of electric bikes by taking over e-bike manufacturer Greyp.

The German brand already owned 10% of Greyp but are now majority shareholders and seemingly want a larger piece of the rapidly expanding e-bike market.

They launched the Porsche eBike Sport and Cross models earlier this year and will now begin working on updating those models as part of a €15 billion investment in new technology over the next five years.

What are your thoughts on this? Should car manufacturers be investing in bike companies? Will having major players like Porsche in the e-cycling market help raise the bar even further?

19 November 2021, 11:30
Whatever happened to the pedal car??

Why did this innovative 'horseless carriage' never take off? 

✅ You can carry it up the stairs
✅ You can use the larder as a garage for it
✅ The materials to build it cost less than a fiver
✅ The only overheads are the occasional spot of oil and some imbrication for those poor old legs.

What's not to love?

@andyq9

#cycling #driving #car #bicycle #andyq9 #uk #1947

♬ original sound - OldCarsMostly

19 November 2021, 10:43
Hoy backs new track cycling series
Chris Hoy at the Chris Hoy Velodrome

 

Did you watch the first round of the UCI Track Champions League in Majorca earlier this month? 

This glitzy and glamorous version of track cycling is aiming to revolutionise the sport and turn its stars into household names.

The second round takes place in Lithuania next weekend before heading to London in December and Sir Chris Hoy has been signing its praises.

He told The Scotsman: "It’s long overdue to have a competition series for the top riders. You can see how excited they were [in Majorca] and it's only going to get bigger.

"The condensed three-hour session format, TV graphics, the tech behind it and heart-rate and power data from the riders like is taking it to the next level – a bit like Sky coverage did with Formula One.”

Do you follow track cycling? If so, do you think the series has a bright and long-term future? 

19 November 2021, 11:11
(Pedal) power to the people

Posts like this warm our cockles on a cold Friday in November!

Being part of a peloton on the way to work looks way more fun than being stuck in a traffic jam 🚴‍♂️🚴🚴‍♀️.

19 November 2021, 09:00
All hail this lycra-clad animal liberator!

What a nice post to get the day off to a positive start!

If proof were ever needed that cyclists are a great bunch, this clip of a fearless chap freeing a mountain goat (or is it a sheep?) who'd got its horn stuck around a tree would certainly be up there.

We raised our hands in celebration just like he did when the drama reached its conclusion. 🙌

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to IanMK | 2 years ago
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Didn't they find that out when London (under Johnson) first painted them all blue with super slippery-when-wet paint? The replacement seems alot better and I'm sure is used all places now. 

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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[pedant on]   "....imbrication for those poor old legs."

imbrication in American English

noun
1. an overlapping, as of tiles or scales

 

Maybe embrocation might work better.  [pedant off]

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CygnusX1 replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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You beat me to the pedantry on this one, however as you didn't include the dictionary definition for embrocation here goes: 
embrocation
/ˌɛmbrəˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun

a liquid for rubbing on the body to relieve pain from sprains and strains.
"a bottle of embrocation"

 

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eburtthebike replied to CygnusX1 | 2 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:

You beat me to the pedantry on this one, however as you didn't include the dictionary definition for embrocation here goes: 
embrocation
/ˌɛmbrəˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun

a liquid for rubbing on the body to relieve pain from sprains and strains.
"a bottle of embrocation"

I was assuming that people knew what embrocation was.yes

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mdavidford replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

[pedant on]   "....imbrication for those poor old legs."

imbrication in American English

noun
1. an overlapping, as of tiles or scales

Well if it's been a long trip and they're dying for the loo that might help.

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GMBasix | 2 years ago
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Quote:

The BBC are reporting

Are it?

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Captain Badger replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

Quote:

The BBC are reporting

Are it?

I think you'll find it's "am they"....

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eburtthebike replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

Quote:

The BBC are reporting

Are it?

Well, they're certainly reporting some things, like HS2 no longer going to the places the government has promised to level up, but that's pretty much the only form of transport other than electric cars they will report.

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GMBasix replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Quote:

The BBC are reporting

Are it?

Well, they're certainly reporting some things, like HS2 no longer going to the places the government has promised to level up, but that's pretty much the only form of transport other than electric cars they will report.

My (pedantic) point is, it is reporting, since there is only one British Broadcasting Corporation.

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mdavidford replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

My (pedantic) point is, it is reporting, since there is only one British Broadcasting Corporation.

But it can be conceptualised as a single corporate entity, or they can be coneptualised as many individuals engaged in a common endeavour. So both pronouns can be correct, depending on how you regard it/them.

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GMBasix replied to mdavidford | 2 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

My (pedantic) point is, it is reporting, since there is only one British Broadcasting Corporation.

But it can be conceptualised as a single corporate entity, or they can be coneptualised as many individuals engaged in a common endeavour. So both pronouns can be correct, depending on how you regard it/them.

In which case, "many individuals are reporting" would be acceptable. The BBC is a singular noun, however.

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Sriracha replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

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GMBasix replied to Sriracha | 2 years ago
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Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

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marmotte27 replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

It's the subject that governs the verb.

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mdavidford replied to marmotte27 | 2 years ago
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marmotte27 wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

It's the subject that governs the verb.

But who governs the governers?

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eburtthebike replied to mdavidford | 2 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

marmotte27 wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

It's the subject that governs the verb.

But who governs the governers?

They do; as I discovered when my complaint about their blatant helmet promotion got that far.

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Steve K replied to mdavidford | 2 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

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But who governs the governers?

Not Paul Dacre, thankfully.

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wycombewheeler replied to marmotte27 | 2 years ago
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marmotte27 wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

It's the subject that governs the verb.

But while people are allowed to chose their pronouns, I didn't think chosing to be plural was on the table.

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mdavidford replied to wycombewheeler | 2 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

marmotte27 wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Surely Aunty gets to choose their pronouns?

Yes, but not its verbs.

It's the subject that governs the verb.

But while people are allowed to chose their pronouns, I didn't think chosing to be plural was on the table.

You didn't know we were living in a pluralistic society these days?

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mdavidford replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

mdavidford wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

My (pedantic) point is, it is reporting, since there is only one British Broadcasting Corporation.

But it can be conceptualised as a single corporate entity, or they can be coneptualised as many individuals engaged in a common endeavour. So both pronouns can be correct, depending on how you regard it/them.

In which case, "many individuals are reporting" would be acceptable. The BBC is a singular noun, however.

The commentariat is diverse in its opinions.

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chrisonabike replied to GMBasix | 2 years ago
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GMBasix wrote:

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The BBC are reporting

Are it?

"My name is BBC", he replied, "for we are many".

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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It does occur to me that setting a new law, making an activity illegal, will make no difference whatsoever unless the new law is actually enforced.  And to enforce it, aren't we going to need police going around - er - enforcing it?

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Although cyclecam/ dashcam footage should be more admissable now as the driver can't argue that were using the screen as a mirror to add makeup or some other excuse not covered by "mobile communication" and forcing Mikey and others to have to show what the phone was being used for. Now it is in your hand whilst driving, against the law again. 

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Could always be done for 'without due care and attention' though. The change just makes it explicit and presumably easier to process an FPN or NIP.

 

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Ethel Aardvark replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Could always be done for 'without due care and attention' though. The change just makes it explicit and presumably easier to process an FPN or NIP.

 

A few of @CyclingMikey 's reports have failed because of no proof of active communication. I don't understand why these drivers were not prosceuted for driving w'out due care instead🤷

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Captain Badger replied to Ethel Aardvark | 2 years ago
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Ethel Aardvark wrote:
hirsute wrote:

Could always be done for 'without due care and attention' though. The change just makes it explicit and presumably easier to process an FPN or NIP.

 

A few of @CyclingMikey 's reports have failed because of no proof of active communication. I don't understand why these drivers were not prosceuted for driving w'out due care instead🤷

I don't get it either. Driving whilst distracted is an offence in itself. I remember that there have been a number of situations where the police have successfully ticketed people who were doing things like eating a KitKat at traffic lights.

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quiff replied to Ethel Aardvark | 2 years ago
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CPS says: "In cases where there is uncertainty regarding the nature of the device, or dispute about whether it is being used, the alternative offence under Section 41(D)(a) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (driving in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle) may be preferred. In some circumstances the evidence may support a charge of careless or dangerous driving depending on the seriousness of the risk posed by the driving." So I guess while mobile phone use can constitute one of the wider offences, it won't always be a given. 

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Jetmans Dad replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Could always be done for 'without due care and attention' though. The change just makes it explicit and presumably easier to process an FPN or NIP.

Isn't the problem with that charge that the court is looking for you to have actually driven explicitly badly in order to consider you guilty? With this change, simply having the phone in your hand is enough, it doesn't have to have had an actual tangible effect on the quality of your driving yet. 

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Hirsute replied to Jetmans Dad | 2 years ago
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Eating bananas

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/13356986.mum-fined-100-for-eating...

"He (the officer) said I was driving without my hands on the wheel and was a danger to other drivers, but I said that was rubbish."

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Rua_taniwha replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Eating a banana I can understand but if you were just throwing out the skin then I agree that's rubbish 

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