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Jeremy Vine collision "caused by a cyclist going through a red light"; Colnago's new bike is a hymn, a quest and a work of art (apparently); Would you let an eight-year-old cycle here?; Bike shop owner's £15,000 "kick in the teeth" + more on the live blog

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02 March 2023, 12:22
Jeremy Vine collision "caused by a cyclist going through a red light"

Following on from yesterday's story, we've got some more Vine for you on today's live blog...

In the footage the presenter and another rider can be seen getting in a tangle after stopping suddenly when a third cyclist continued through a red light as they tried to cross. And while seeing the video instantly filled us with a sense of dread heading into the comments, for the most part they were less... what's the word? Heated? Divided? Toxic? Whatever the word is, there was far less of that than usual...

And although the stats are hardly perfect, Beyond The Kerb notes the similar figures when looking at red light jumping — a Direct Line Survey suggesting 14 per cent of drivers jump a red light at least twice a month, while a Sunday Times operation put the percentage of cyclists who jump red lights at 10 per cent. Those figures are admittedly somewhat outdated now, coming from 10 years ago, but a 2018 survey by uSwitch found that a fifth of motorists versus a quarter of cyclists admitted to running a red light in the year previous.

Of course, there is also the question of risk, as while in Vine's case a cyclist jumping a red light did cause a collision, the amount of serious injuries caused by cyclists jumping red lights is low. Here are the wider pedestrian casualty figures for 2016 to 2021, broken down by secondary vehicle type, which suggests cyclists pose considerably less risk to pedestrians than most other road users...

Pedestrian casualty figures 2016-2021 (Department for Transport)

 

02 March 2023, 17:48
Denim shorts?!

Apologies for the somewhat sparse live blog this afternoon, turns out there's big news elsewhere...

AG2R Rosti denim bib shorts (Pauline Ballet/ AG2R Citroën)

[Pauline Ballet/ AG2R Citroën]

> AG2R Citroën to race Strade Bianche in denim bib shorts

02 March 2023, 16:36
"We're going to need a bigger box"
02 March 2023, 15:37
The Ribble Collective: British brand sets up multi-discipline, multi-gender team (but not a team) of privateers
Ribble Collective

Ribble has set up the Collective, its new athlete support model, months on from the end of the Ribble Weldtite Pro Cycling team. "Rather than a traditional cycling team," Ribble explained. "This new multi-discipline, multi-gender, community of riders sees each member of the Ribble Collective compete as a privateer, albeit within the foundations of a traditional team structure.

"Each rider gains the support of their fellow cyclists, and the Ribble brand, yet is given complete flexibility to craft their own season."

Ribble Collective

"For 2023, we had the vision to look at the cycling landscape creatively and introduce this model, allowing us to work in close collaboration with each individual rider and support them to achieve their own riding goals. We are really excited about the future of the Ribble Collective and we feel we have built a strong, diverse and varied roster of riders for the 2023 season," Neil Pinkawa, Ribble's head of brand marketing said.

Riders can choose their own calendar and their own personal sponsorships but will be aboard the respective Ribble bikes, Ultra SL R, Endurance SL R, Gravel SL and Ultra Tri with a flash new colourway and in Collective-coloured kit.

Writing on his blog, one of the riders involved, Joe Laverick, sought to address if his new 'team', which includes former Ribble Weldtite pro and YouTuber Cameron Jeffers, is "just a bunch of influencers, or a group of privateers who are racing to win?" and quite amusingly said it's not just another gravel group trying to sound cool.

"Away from kit, wheels are another area where the Collective has 'partners', not sponsors," he explained. "I will be riding Mavic wheels this year, who are a partner of the Collective. However, Cam Jeffers is using Halo Wheels, Maddy Nutt is using Parcours.

"The freedom that this project gives us riders is refreshing. Ribble could quite easily have contractually obliged us to use company X, Y or Z and locked us into those deals. Yet, they wanted to do it different and give us freedom."

02 March 2023, 15:22
"Drugs (prescription) and make-up worked wonders": Dan Walker makes hosting reappearance a week on from cycling collision
02 March 2023, 15:04
Strav-uh?

Too many childish jokes to be made here...

But "with someone who didn't record?" takes the biscuit...

02 March 2023, 13:58
Three years in jail for pedestrian convicted of manslaughter after cyclist's death
02 March 2023, 11:53
Bike shop owner's £15,000 "kick in the teeth" break-in
Bridport Cycles website

A bike shop owner in Dorset has spoken out about the "unsettling" burglary which saw thieves make off with £15,000 worth of goods from Bridport Cycles last weekend. Robert Stobart told the Briport & Lyme Regis News the break-in is "another kick in the teeth" following a "slow winter".

"All bike shops seem to get broken into eventually, but it was kind of the unexpected expected," he said. "Coming off a slow winter and then for this to happen is another kick in the teeth. It is a bit unsettling, you kind of start double-checking everything and feeling insecure. Hopefully, it's a one-off.

"They broke the padlock on an external door and the lock on the internal door. This is a quiet area, so no-one heard the alarm. Police have been really great. The forensic guy came out in a couple of hours and the police took a statement later that evening."

The shop was broken into between 5pm on Friday 24 February and 2pm on Sunday 26 February, with parts, e-bikes and a turquoise Yeti SB150 mountain bike valued at around £6,000 taken.

"I would urge anyone who saw or heard any unusual activity in the area to please come forward," police constable Jack White, of West Dorset police said.

"I understand a white van was seen acting suspiciously in the vicinity during the night on Saturday, February 2023 and I am keen to hear from anyone who may have captured either the van or anything of relevance on dashcam or CCTV footage. Also, I would like to speak to anyone who has seen one of the bikes matching the descriptions given for sale locally in unusual circumstances."

Those with information are asked to contact Dorset Police at www.dorset.police.uk/contact or by calling 101, quoting occurrence number 55230030768.

02 March 2023, 08:53
"Would you let an eight-year-old cycle here?": Some classic British cycling infrastructure

The A34 in Stockport looks fun...

Elsewhere...

But perhaps it's a sign that things are (slowly) moving in the right direction regarding active travel infrastructure here in the UK that Stockport's council has details on its website of upgrades to this route, including a 5.6km pedestrian and cycle route along the A34 corridor.

"This includes a segregated cycle track and controlled crossings with connections to the wider Greater Manchester Cycle Bee Network and local public rights of way," the council promises, and the drawings also show a 3m-wide cycleway between the roundabout and Etchells Road, along one particularly charming stretch of the A34 (below)...

A34 Stockport (Google Maps)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps)

 The major roundabout at the top of the route is to be made easier for cyclists and pedestrians to negotiate too, with improved crossings and shared-use paths, leading to the stretch of cycle lane mentioned previously and this...

A34 plan (Stockport council)

Fair enough, I'd let my imaginary eight-year-old cycle along that... even if they'll probably be a teenager by the time anything like that's built around here...

Let's cross our fingers the completed project doesn't end up back on the live blog for a sarcastic kicking when pictures of the botched project go viral among Twitter's cycling community... c'mon Stockport Council, we're all rooting for you...

02 March 2023, 10:26
A hymn, a quest that never stops, a work of art... Colnago's new bike (in their own words)...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by COLNAGO (@colnagoworld)

 Colnago has a new bike out...

> Colnago introduces C68 Allroad for the "light off-road" market

Designed for both tarmac and light off-road use (as opposed to full-on gravel use), the C68 Allroad is, according to Colnago, "a hymn to this constant search for beauty"...

"A quest that never stops, not even when the asphalt ends. Fall in love with this new model, the first built to go smooth on both asphalt and light off-road.

"The pursuit of beauty is what drives us to ride our bikes, to lose ourselves in the streets outside the city, to seek out new routes and new landscapes. Beauty is also the emotion we seek in every single product we make. A bicycle for us is a work of art. We take care of its proportions, details, materials, and construction processes... and the C68 is the epitome of this concept."

Just make sure you've got a spare €15,335 before you begin your quest...

02 March 2023, 10:01
Strade Bianche fever

Everyone's favourite race (and when I say 'everyone', I mean my favourite race) is two days away... maybe it's the time of year, the start of the Classics season, spring almost in the air... maybe it's just that it's a bloody great race. I'm not the only one either, Strade Bianche fever is spreading...

Two days out means time for the inevitable debate: should Strade Bianche be a Monument? And while I'm a huge fan of the race and all for an extra 'big one' on the calendar... what is this blasphemy?

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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Fignon's ghost | 1 year ago
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Bridport cycles. Seriously. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. And of course better locks. Get a good locksmith in to advise you.
There's no doubt these scumbags had browsed your premises and knew the challenges. Don't remain as low hanging fruit.

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mark1a replied to Fignon's ghost | 1 year ago
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Fignon's ghost wrote:

Bridport cycles. Seriously. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. And of course better locks. Get a good locksmith in to advise you. There's no doubt these scumbags had browsed your premises and knew the challenges. Don't remain as low hanging fruit.

Will you also be advising that the owner should also have been wearing a helmet and hi-viz clothing?

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perce replied to Fignon's ghost | 1 year ago
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Some nice victim blaming there. Well done.

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alansmurphy | 1 year ago
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The red light jumping stats ref the JV video - pretty sure in that clip alone the ration is 3:1 cars v cyclist!

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HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Not a terrible pass from this chap today, not sure they should be driving though:

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JustTryingToGet... replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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HoarseMann wrote:

Not a terrible pass from this chap today, not sure they should be driving though:

I refuse to believe that that driver is anything other than the goodest boy*, and will not a hear a word against him**.

*or girl
**or her

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HoarseMann replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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They were giving the road ahead their full attention, not a mobile phone in sight. A lot of drivers could learn from their example.

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chrisonabike replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Why not? Nothing to see here - it doesn't say that when using the carriageway *drivers* should keep their dogs on a short lead.

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cmedred | 1 year ago
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So did the red light-running cyclist in the Vine video run a red light at road intersection or is that the traffic-controlled intersection where a cycleway crosses the road?

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Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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That bloody camera Vine has just makes me feel ill.

Given up watching it.

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Vo2Maxi | 1 year ago
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Funny how the idiot Vine will stop to confront errant motorists, often riding right up to their bumper in a provocative way and calling them out loudly. But when he almost collides with a red-light jumper on a bike, he actually apologises! Duh! Vine could do a lot of good in his privileged high profile position, but he just pees off drivers everywhere with his holier than thou attitude, and riding down the middle of the road unnecessarily. Yes, we all know we'll see the same car at the next red light, but you don't ride along telling people how to drive and blocking them. It just makes them angry and then I have to deal with that.

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Seagull2 replied to Vo2Maxi | 1 year ago
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Not sure you were paying attention, he didn't apologise to the offending cyclist  . .  perhaps take a look at it again  

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Clem Fandango replied to Vo2Maxi | 1 year ago
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Yet a growing number of drivers seem to think it's OK to drive along telling me how to ride ("get off the effin' road", "use the effin' cyle path", "you're not allowed in the middle of the road," "f*** off you***" etc etc) and blocking / threatening / trying to intimidate me.   Weird.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Vo2Maxi | 1 year ago
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Vo2Maxi wrote:

blah blah blah

A one post wonder joins to criticise Vine.  Which one of the resident trolls do you think it is? 🤔

 

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PRSboy | 1 year ago
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Oi Vine!  That's double standards, considering the videos of non-events involving cars/buses he puts on Twitter.  That cyclist most definitely posed a danger to the pedestrians who might have walked out in front of her, not to mention causing Mr Vine to collide with the bloke next to him.

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The Accountant | 1 year ago
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Why is Road.cc publishing dodgy statistics pretending that red light jumping is as common amongst motorists as cyclists?

Just stand at any junction, anywhere in the country (especially London where Vine was filming), where there is any kind of volume of cycling and motoring traffic and you'll immediately see that red light jumping is far more prevalent and blatent amongst cyclists than any other mode of transport.

Pretending otherwise will undermine other serious issues, as people don't believe statistics once they've been presented with fabricated or spurious data.

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Daveyraveygravey replied to The Accountant | 1 year ago
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Bollocks.  Are you a troll?  Or just another blinkered driver?

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Rendel Harris replied to Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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Hey, don't go pigeonholing him – he can easily be both.

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Browsie replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Quite easily!, It would, I guess be dependent on which one of his two brain cells were engaged at any particular moment .

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chrisonabike replied to Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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Well, we can't *know* if that account is used by a blinkered driver, but ...

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chrisonabike replied to Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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The stats could as usual do with some explanation (the coding of "involved in collision"). Some kind of *rate* is useful to know as well, and finally this will then lead to more questions of course and a desire for more detailed data. Plus of course "what might happen if you change things"?

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Bigfoz replied to The Accountant | 1 year ago
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Scope out any set of lights around the country and watch how many car drivers go through after the amber goes red.  If you think this is a mainly cyclist problem, you;tre very much mistaken. 

Cyclists may do more blatant "in the middle of the red" forays, but just after a light goes red is a dangerous time on British roads. My favourite (I was in my van), was the guy #6 in the queue of red light jumpers, who when I tooted him (half way through my green and still unable to move) went absolutely ballistic in his little car. Should have driven over him.
 

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perce replied to The Accountant | 1 year ago
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Yawn yawn, yawnie yawn yawn, yawn yawn. Yawnie mcyawn, yawn. Times infinity. Cubed

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giff77 replied to The Accountant | 1 year ago
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The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 50 mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows "to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles"  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

 

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JustTryingToGet... replied to giff77 | 1 year ago
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giff77 wrote:

The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows "to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles"  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

 

Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I've been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving).

The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it's too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it'll make drivers angry).

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Secret_squirrel replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

. Apparently it's too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it'll make drivers angry).

Matt Rodda's picked this up as an issue so there might be some movement on it soonish....

Theres also a great oppportunity there to create a cycle link from Westfield road park to Balmore Walk  & NCN5 if done right.

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JustTryingToGet... replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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Secret_squirrel wrote:

JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

. Apparently it's too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it'll make drivers angry).

Matt Rodda's picked this up as an issue so there might be some movement on it soonish....

Theres also a great oppportunity there to create a cycle link from Westfield road park to Balmore Walk  & NCN5 if done right.

I signed the petition... though I heard it got stick at the budget for scoping the issue I'm not holding out much hope. It could pay for itself if they put cameras on the junction to catch the RLJs.

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nosferatu1001 replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:
giff77 wrote:

The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows "to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles"  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

 

Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I've been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving). The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it's too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it'll make drivers angry).

oh that's a terrible junction. That who,e road down to Waitrose is knackered, and the cycling provision over the bridge is shocking

yoir post the other day reminds me I need to do the Hardwick house loop again though, that downhill to the mill is lovely. 

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JustTryingToGet... replied to nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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nosferatu1001 wrote:

JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:
giff77 wrote:

The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows "to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles"  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

 

Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I've been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving). The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it's too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it'll make drivers angry).

oh that's a terrible junction. That who,e road down to Waitrose is knackered, and the cycling provision over the bridge is shocking

yoir post the other day reminds me I need to do the Hardwick house loop again though, that downhill to the mill is lovely. 

I think that was Ktache rather than me, but I know it well!

Edit: a must for Sabbath fans

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giff77 replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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It's actually terrifying when you're stopping and you can here the car behind start to skid. It got to a stage for me to take a quick shoulder check and pull to the left in the middle of the junction to avoid being hit. Other times I've dealt with the close pass as the motorist swerves pass me and I've stopped. And then I have to read our two DFLs pontificate about cyclists jumping lights. 🤬🤬🤬

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