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Council blasted for issuing more “nonsense” nuisance notices on bikes parked on pavement; “Cycling teams, enough with the shady sponsors”: Movistar accused of sportswashing after Saudi Arabia deal; Amy Pieters takes first steps + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Ryan Mallon is here to bring you all the latest cycling news and views on the live blog
25 October 2022, 08:00
Hackney Council issues nuisance notices on bikes (Twitter, bikesandbabies)
Hackney Council blasted for issuing more “nonsense” nuisance notices on bikes parked on pavement

Back at the start of September, we reported that Hackney Council had come in for criticism after one of its officers slapped an enforcement notice on a family-owned cargo bike parked on a pavement, demanding its removal within seven days.

Just under seven weeks later (so, Liz Truss’s entire stint in No. 10 then), the council has once again been blasted for issuing the so-called ‘nuisance’ notices, this time to two bikes locked outside their owners’ home on the footpath.

Posting images of the parked bikes on Twitter, along with the seven-day notice to remove them from the street, local cyclist Ruth-Anna wrote: “Hackney Council, what on earth is going on? Not just cargo bikes, you are now ticketing ‘standard’ cycles locked outside people’s houses (with PLENTY of space left on the pavement). We have two cycle hangars for over 100 houses/flats!”

She also called on Hackney councillor Mete Coban, who has expressed sympathy in the past for the plight of cyclists forced to store their bikes outside, to “stop this nonsense”.

> Council slaps nuisance notice on family cargo bike parked on pavement

In September, Will Prochaska’s cargo bike, which he uses to transport his three toddlers around the area and which is parked on the pavement due to a lack of private storage space, was issued with a seven-day ‘nuisance’ notice from the council.

According to Section 149 of the Highways Act 1980, “if anything is so deposited on a highway as to constitute a nuisance, the highway authority for the highway may by notice require the person who deposited it there to remove it forthwith.”

If the perceived nuisance isn’t removed by the owner within a week, the local authority may lodge a complaint with a magistrates’ court or remove the offending item themselves immediately.

After Will posted on Twitter about the unexpected notice (the result, it later transpired, of a complaint from another resident), arguing, like Ruth-Anna, that the bike doesn’t block the footpath and represents a “fantastic example” of healthy travel, Hackney Council was roundly condemned for what many viewed as its rather flippant response to the issue.

Responding to the post on social media, the council argued that Will’s bike “is causing an obstruction on the pavement so it would need to be removed and parked somewhere safe. This can be on your own private property or somewhere designated for bicycles.”

“I think the case shows the desperate need for cargo bike parking solutions in Hackney,” Will told road.cc at the time. “As it is, the way we park our bike never blocks the pavement, so the argument that it’s an obstruction is false.

“Hackney Council have led the way in the UK to support active travel, so this nuisance notice was a surprise. I suspect it’s indicative of an over-zealous council officer who may have a chip on their shoulder about cyclists.”

Hackney Council nuisance notices on bikes (Twitter, bikesandbabies)

Credit: Twitter, bikesandbabies

Responding to road.cc’s request for comment, a spokesperson for Hackney Council said in September: “We’re London’s top borough for cycling, with nearly one in four of our residents cycling once a week and the most residential cycle parking of any London borough.

“We’ve just announced the introduction of 675 new cycle hangars, doubling what we already have, and it’s really important that we continue to encourage people to travel healthily, including by cargo bike.

“The aim of enforcement notices like this is to keep our pavements clear of obstructions for prams and people who use wheelchairs… However, we do recognise that it can be hard for people to park cargo bikes if they don’t have private space for it.”

Unsurprisingly, Hackney Council’s latest example of “encouraging people to travel healthily” – by making them remove their bikes from the footpath – hasn’t gone down too well on Twitter:

25 October 2022, 08:52
Movistar-Saudi Cycling Federation agreement
“Come on cycling teams, enough with the shady sponsors”: Movistar accused of sportswashing after Saudi Arabia deal

Yesterday’s announcement, reported on the live blog, that Movistar has signed an agreement with the Saudi Cycling Federation – designed, apparently, to “develop technical staff, enhance cooperation on training programmes, exchange experiences, hold regular workshops and support events, races and activities” in Saudi Arabia – has been met with widespread bemusement and accusations of ‘sportswashing’ from cycling fans on social media.

> Nothing to see here, folks: Movistar announces agreement with Saudi Cycling Federation

Of course, Saudi Arabia isn’t the first oil rich state with a questionable human rights record to attach itself to a World Tour pro cycling team (Hi, UAE and Bahrain).

Nor is the Saudi Cycling Federation’s newly minted deal with everyone’s favourite chaotic Spanish squad the Kingdom’s first foray into the world of two wheels.

In June last year, Team BikeExchange revealed that the Royal Commission of AlUla had joined the Australian squad as an official partner.

The commission was established in 2017 to preserve and promote as a tourist destination the historical AlUla site in north-western Saudi Arabia. Its chairman is Mohammed bin Salman, the authoritarian Crown Prince and Prime Minister of Saudi Arabia and the man behind last year’s takeover of Newcastle United Football Club (as well as being personally linked to the killing of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018).

BikeExchange’s partnership with AlUla has worked a treat so far: in February this year, the team’s Dutch sprinter Dylan Groenewegen won both of the Saudi Tour's two stages which finished in AlUla’s old town.

While Groenewegen and BikeExchange dominated in AlUla, Lotto Soudal’s young hope Maxim Van Gils ended up taking the overall victory at the second edition of the revamped Saudi Tour, a race which attracted eight UCI World Tour teams and five ProTour teams, and which is promoted by ASO, the organisers of the Tour de France.

> Cycling's most controversial sponsors

Nevertheless, Saudi Arabia’s latest attempt to launder its image, indulge in some greenwashing, and bolster its power on the international stage has gone down as poorly as a woman attempting to ride a bike on her own in the Kingdom:

25 October 2022, 16:02
Turbo time: Have a great evening, everyone!

Dan will be taking over live blog duties for the rest of the week, so I’ll catch you all on Monday. Anyway, as the nights close in, I’m off for a date with the much-neglected turbo trainer…

25 October 2022, 15:28
Charlotte (Designer) and Fearghal (Smart Cities Project Lead) of See.Sense with Coca-Cola Zero Belfast Bikes.jpg
New Belfast Bike stations installed after usage falls by over 50 percent from last year

Use of Belfast’s bike-share scheme has fallen by over 50 percent to pre-Covid levels, a new reports says, as fifteen new docking stations are set to be installed over the next two years.

According to a Belfast City Council report presented at the authority’s recent City Growth and Regeneration Committee, since its launch in 2015 Belfast Bikes has witnessed over 1,236,000 journeys.

However, between April and June 2022, only 38,907 journeys were made on the bikes, a fall of 50.3 percent from the admittedly extremely healthy same period last year, and a 25.5 percent decrease compared to the scheme’s average since 2015, the Belfast Telegraph reports.

The council report says: “This indicates that demand for bike rental has not returned to pre-pandemic levels. The current cost-of-living crisis, reduced city centre footfall, remote working and competition from other means of travel are all likely factors in the reduction in usage evidenced in quarter one.

“It should also be noted that there was an exceptionally high level of usage in 2021 that could have been due to a number of factors, not least Covid-19 restrictions. Officers are working with colleagues across council and the city to promote the bikes and drive usage.”

The reports also noted that vandalism and theft remain a problem, with costs due to damage amounting to £6,980 from April to June (though this has also fallen from last year’s figures).

“Members will be aware that vandalism is an ongoing problem,” the report continues. “Upgrades to the forks to help prevent the unauthorised removal of bikes has been successful however, damage is now being caused to the rear wheels while bikes are being forced from docking stations.

“There is of course a correlation between bike usage and vandalism. The PSNI and the council continue to deliver community engagement initiatives to help decrease vandalism incidents.”

While subscription and usage charges have dropped from last year’s highs, membership of the scheme remains healthy, with 21,756 active Belfast Bike members at the end of this year’s first quarter amounting to an increase of 67 percent compared to the same period last year.

The council hopes to build on this success by establishing fifteen new docking stations – in addition to the five already set up this year – by the end of 2023. In the summer the council also outlined a plan to deliver a number of new covered cycle stands, cycle repair kits and secured cycle parking provision throughout the city.

25 October 2022, 14:47
Celebrity cycling news: Katy Perry admits she gets recognised while out on her bike

We all love a bit of celebrity cycling gossip on the live blog – well, at least Dan does.

And while we wait patiently for Simon Cowell to venture out on his e-bike again, popstar Katy Perry has been kind enough to share some two-wheeled showbiz titbits to tide us over in the meantime (yep, it’s well and truly the off-season now).

Speaking on The Kyle and Jackie O Show, an Australian morning radio programme, the Teenage Dream singer (now that’s a tune), said she keeps getting recognised by people who think she “looks like Katy Perry” while she’s at mother and baby groups with her two-year-old daughter – and when she’s out on her bike.

She said: “I like to grab a coffee and an empanada and just drink my coffee and eat my empanada while I’m on my bike.

“People do recognise me, but by the time they’re like, ‘Is that …? Was that …?’ I’m already gone.”

And here’s the proof – not that you needed it – of the American Idol judge’s cycling credentials:

Drinking coffee, eating pastry and riding no handed? Hopefully, the Alliance of British Drivers never hears about this.

Anyway, do you reckon Perry heads out on her bike when it’s both Hot N Cold?

I’ll get my coat…

25 October 2022, 13:59
You can’t win anything with kids (or maybe you can): Jumbo-Visma sign 17-year-old Jørgen Nordhagen

The soccerisation of professional cycling continues at pace as, seemingly inspired the increasingly early successes of the likes of Remco Evenepoel and Tadej Pogačar, Tour de France winners Jumbo-Visma have invested in the future this autumn by securing the signature of highly-rated Norwegian prospect Jørgen Nordhagen.

The 17-year-old (yes, 17) is so young that he will have to wait until 2024, when he graduates from the junior ranks, to start racing for Jumbo-Visma’s development squad. He’ll then spend a year at Conti level before moving up to the big leagues alongside Jonas Vingegaard and Wout van Aert.

“Here, I get the time and room to grow as a person and become a pro rider. That has always been my dream, and it will come true in a few years. I’m really looking forward to it,” Nordhagen, whose contract with the Dutch squad runs until 2027, said in a statement.

“Because I have already decided to transfer to Team Jumbo-Visma after my junior season, I can continue to develop in peace and quiet and focus on my sporting goals. I think the team and I make a strong match because, based on my first impressions, the team and I have the same mindset. It’s also good to meet my fellow countrymen Tobias Foss, Per Strand Hagenes, and Johannes Staune-Mittet. I’ve heard positive things about the team from them.”

Jumbo-Visma’s deal with Nordhagen is similar to the one struck by UAE Team Emirates for Juan Ayuso, who rode as a junior and in a development squad before joining the World Tour this year, where he hit the ground running with a third place overall at the Vuelta a España.

No pressure then, Jørgen.

To mark pro cycling’s continued investment in youth, here’s a short list of things that happened before young Nordhagen was born (in January 2005):

  • Lance Armstrong wins his sixth straight Tour de France title, and tells Floyd Landis to ‘ride like you stole it’ (July 2004)
  • L.A. Confidentiel: Les secrets de Lance Armstrong, David Walsh and Pierre Ballester’s exposé into Armstrong’s use of performance-enhancing drugs, is published in France (June 2004)
  • José Mourinho becomes Chelsea manager (June 2004)
  • Wayne Rooney signs for Manchester United (August 2004)
  • Mark Zuckerberg launches Facebook (February 2004)
  • George Bush wins a second term as US President, defeating John Kerry (November 2004)
25 October 2022, 13:14
Protecting the ‘protected’ cycle lane

When is protected infrastructure not protected infrastructure? When you have to form a human barrier to prevent motorists from using it and to allow children to cycle safely to school, that’s when.

This rather startling safety initiative was held this morning on a 24-hour cycle lane in the Dublin inner suburb of Harold’s Cross, close to five local schools, and was supported by local cycling campaign group I Bike Dublin.

However, despite the efforts of those involved, some drivers still seemed unable or unwilling to heed the message:

25 October 2022, 12:16
A “snapping-in-half problem”? That’s not what you want to hear…

Of course, if you’re in the market for an e-bike that won’t snap in half on you (aren’t we all?), make sure to check out our guide to the best electric bikes

25 October 2022, 11:35
Throwback… err, Tuesday: 50 years ago today, Eddy Merckx sets new Hour Record in Mexico City

While Filippo Ganna’s scorching, superhuman effort in Grenchen earlier this month has reignited the cycling world’s interest in the Hour Record, and effectively tore up the script concerning one of cycling’s most prestigious feats, the most iconic Hour Record moment still belongs to the greatest male cyclist of all time, Eddy Merckx.

> Filippo Ganna roars to spectacular new UCI Hour Record of 56.792km

Fifty years ago today, on the morning of 25 October 1972, after two days in which the rain had made the outdoor track in Mexico City unrideable, Merckx set off for his 60 minutes of cycling purgatory with the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Firmly established as the most dominant rider of his, or indeed any, generation, the pressure on Merckx was enormous: Fail, and everything he had achieved up to that point – the Tours, the Giri, the classics, the rainbow jerseys – could be eclipsed by one moment of defining, excruciatingly public failure.

Those reputational concerns, exacerbated by Merckx’s last-minute aim to break two intermediate records on the way to the Hour, were clearly palpable trackside.

Sports journalist Marc Jeuniau, who described the record attempt as the most intense experience of his reporting career, wrote: “The men intimately concerned with the champion’s performance were going through atrocious moments that they will never forget. The face of Jean Van Buggenhout was crimson. Old Piero Molteni was crying. Colnago, who was ready to run over if Merckx had a puncture, looked weighed down by the spare bike on his shoulders. Lucien Acou, the least confident of all of them, had trouble hiding his nerves, and, alone in a corner of the track, Doctor Cavalli was following Merckx with haggard eyes.”

They needn’t have worried: Merckx’s start was blisteringly, almost recklessly, fast – especially at altitude. His first kilometre, from a standing start, took only one minute and 10 seconds (a time worthy of a world champs medal in the Kilo back then), while world records for the 10km and 20km distances were set along the way.

A mid-Hour crisis was duly navigated through sheer force of will, before a final crescendo saw Merckx destroy Ole Ritter’s record by 788 metres (the biggest jump the record had seen since 1912) to set an ‘unbeatable’ mark of 49.431 kilometres.

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The Belgian, after a quick warm down, was carried from his bike, his face distorted into a painful, iconic grimace.

Chris Boardman, who in 2000 broke the Cannibal’s 1972 mark, following the UCI’s disastrous decision to ‘reset’ the Hour in the midst of the superbike age, told cycling author William Fotheringham for his Merckx biography, Half Man Half Bike: “I watched footage of Merckx being carried off afterwards and was laughing a bit, I thought it was showmanship. But I couldn’t walk for four days after the 2000 Hour. There is something about that position that does massive damage to you. It’s to do with riding on the drops.”

Merckx, meanwhile, told his DS at Molteni, Giorgio Albani, “never to mention the Hour Record again”.

Fifty years ago today, the Cannibal was finally defeated by the only man capable of the feat: Himself.

25 October 2022, 10:54
Amy Pieters (licensed CC BY SA 4.0 by Nicola on Wikimedia Commons)
Amy Pieters takes first steps since 2021 training crash

Three-time Madison world champion Amy Pieters has walked for the first time since a training crash last December left her in a coma for four months.

The 31-year-old former Dutch road race champion, who has won the European road race championships, Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, the Ronde van Drenthe and the GP Plouay during her eleven-year professional career, has been undergoing rehabilitation since waking from a coma in April.

The SD Worx rider was on a training camp in Calpe near Alicante when she crashed two days before Christmas last year, losing consciousness and sustaining serious head injuries.

> Amy Pieters shows signs of “awareness” four months after crash that left her in a coma

Pieters, who had won a stage of the Tour of Britain and finished fourth overall in her last road race of 2021, was placed in an induced coma and underwent an operation to relieve the pressure on her brain, before being repatriated to the Netherlands by air ambulance in early January.

Since waking from a coma in April, she then moved her recovery to the Daan Theeuwes Centre in Woerden, a specialist brain injury facility. There, her rehabilitation has improved – despite some setbacks – and she has cycled on a side-by-side tandem and, most recently, taken her first steps.

“Amy has taken her first steps!” an update on her website says. “Amy has been in therapy for a while at the Daan Theeuwes Center in Woerden, the Netherlands. Various exercises and training sessions are given that Amy participates in. Amy has already been able to cycle along on a side-by-side tandem.

“Lately, it’s been a little more difficult to motivate Amy with physical exercises. Talking is not yet possible, which makes it difficult to explain herself. Not being able to explain or express herself is sometimes a bit difficult for her and also for us. Fortunately, she can be motivated by playing a game. We take it for granted that she chooses her own moment. And that moment comes because suddenly she is standing!

“With a little help, she gets up from her chair and takes her own steps. She walks for short moments when supported. This is what we like to see.

“Amy sets the pace. There are days when she doesn’t want to show this again, and then there comes another day when she wants to stand, starts walking, and immediately makes a serious effort. What she shows then is the conviction that Amy will be able to walk again! Amy’s tiny steps are already turning into real steps. What a progression!

“We now hear more and more soft sounds from her. Then we’re glad to hear from her. Sometimes we suddenly hear a small word clearly escape from her mouth. She does not repeat this yet, but it’s so nice and hopeful to hear her familiar voice in this spontaneously uttered word.”

However, the update also emphasised that there have been several setbacks and interruptions to Pieters’ recovery, and that she has suffered a number of epileptic seizures.

“However, there are also moments of panic,” the update continues. “Everything seems to be going a little better and then suddenly we are again confronted with the facts. Amy had an epileptic seizure. Ambulance at the door and panic everywhere. The last time Amy had an epileptic seizure, she had a massive relapse. Probably by acting well and quickly and letting her sleep for a long time, Amy has no further serious consequences, apart from a considerable fatigue. Thank God.

“We must have patience and hope. We are convinced that Amy will show us some very beautiful things.We can’t thank the people often enough who help Amy. This also applies to her fellow rehabilitators, who continue to motivate each other positively. This strengthens everyone. But also, thanks to the volunteers, therapists, doctors, friends, acquaintances, family and everyone who gives Amy a warm heart.”

25 October 2022, 10:20
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25 October 2022, 09:53
What’s an acceptable number?

Powerful, moving stuff here on road safety from the Transport Accident Commission in Victoria, Australia:

Thanks to road.cc reader IanMSpencer for flagging this in the comments yesterday.

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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Rome73 | 2 years ago
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on the subject of sports washing, Isreal has been killing Palestinians - children included - by the dozens recently. It doesn't get much press coverage though. 

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mark1a replied to Rome73 | 2 years ago
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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP wrote:

on the subject of sports washing, Isreal has been killing Palestinians - children included - by the dozens recently. It doesn't get much press coverage though. 

Could you enlighten us to the extent of sports-washing by the state of Israel, perhaps with an example?

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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No cycling on the menai bridge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63393860
The bridge has reopened for walkers on footpaths and cyclists who dismount their bikes, with marshals in place to monitor numbers.

Those speedy cyclists must generate a lot of force!

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Awavey | 2 years ago
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Mark Harper MP (Forest of Dean) replaces Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP at Department for Transport

theres even a picture of him riding a bike out there  3

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eburtthebike replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Awavey wrote:

Mark Harper MP (Forest of Dean) replaces Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP at Department for Transport

theres even a picture of him riding a bike out there  3

Eff me!  He's my MP, and if there's a more useless pile of pooh (not the bear) anywhere, I'm a gorilla's aunt.  There goes Active Travel.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Wear a helmet in case a tree branch falls on you.

https://twitter.com/Halfords_uk/status/1584878192665497600

Presumably they hope pedestrains will also wear a helmet.

Is a bike helmet the best thing for tree branch protection ?

 

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Awavey replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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"theyre the equivalent of airbags for cars..." "& prevent cyclists from incurring brain damage"   ...dont you know

 

 

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Flintshire Boy | 2 years ago
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A Lay Bah council. A LAYYYYY Bah council.

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(Seems to be something of a pattern emerging, no?)

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chrisonabike replied to Flintshire Boy | 2 years ago
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It has to be a Labour council - for example in the borough of Ken and Chelsey (Con) they really don't like bikes (not even passing through) - so you probably wouldn't see many parked there.

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Awavey | 2 years ago
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cyclisto | 2 years ago
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So here we have two bicycles reducing available pedestrian space ...exactly as the bush a few meters away.

Once more, real city problems tackled successfully, well done guys!

 

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Rezis replied to cyclisto | 2 years ago
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Do the council here also issue tickets to cars on the footways?

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Awavey replied to Rezis | 2 years ago
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I'm sure they do, the issue is blocking access to the pavement, which can create problems for blind, disabled & pram users, that can be achieved equally by car as with bike.

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cyclisto replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Of course parked bikes can block access on sidewalks.

The thing is that in this case no such thing happens, because  there is a bush/tree that occupies similar space, if not more judging by the tiles.

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Awavey replied to cyclisto | 2 years ago
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you are only considering the width of the available pavement left, not how it impacts people crossing over to that pavement.

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alexuk | 2 years ago
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"Don't bite the hand that feeds you" Would you rather these companies and countries contibuted nothing?

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the little onion replied to alexuk | 2 years ago
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Don't chop off the hand

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HarrogateSpa replied to alexuk | 2 years ago
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Really?

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Patrick9-32 replied to alexuk | 2 years ago
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"Don't bite the hand that feeds you" is for pets keeping their masters happy with them. I don't know about you but I would rather not be the pet of the fossil fuel industry at all rather than worrying about whether or not they are happy with me and my compliance. 

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marmotte27 replied to alexuk | 2 years ago
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They could be made to contribute far better by taxation and regulation (aiming for speedy extinction).

These sponsorships just allow them to sportswash.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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"Thames Valley Police are no longer investigating close passes on cyclists unless deemed dangerous rather than the normal careless, or evidence of previous offences."

https://twitter.com/GearFifth/status/1584484128912572417

Haven't read it all to know if the claim matches the detail.

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HoarseMann replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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This is old, it's been their approach for years. Here's the full document:
https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/thames-valley...

It's incredibly hard to get any action other than a warning letter. I was lead to believe in a conversation with an officer in their roads policing department, that in the last 3 years, they have only prosecuted one, yes ONE, driver in court for careless driving resulting from a close pass on a cyclist - that cyclist being me.

edit: I should add that this guidance is not cycling specific, it is about general reports of bad driving. In fact, I'd argue it totally ignores vulnerable road users.

The intro says: "The rationale for this decision is to align the Driving Complaint Policy with that of the policy for Non-Injury Road Traffic Collisions, where prosecution is not normally considered for what would amount to a momentary lapse of concentration"

I can understand that, for a minor bump in a car park, no injuries and dealt with via insurance companies, it's probably not worth prosecuting the driver. But it IS worth investigating WHY the collision occurred. Was it a minor distraction, or have they got health issues, such as poor eyesight? etc.

For a cyclist close pass, you could argue that whilst no physical injury may have occurred, there is a mental impact from being threatened with physical injury. There are also not many non-injury collisions where cyclists and motorised vehicles are involved; it's illogical to set the bar at the same level as motorised vehicles.

So whilst I think a standardised approach with a flow chart is a good idea, this example is flawed and ought to be reviewed with a focus on protecting the most vulnerable road users.

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Secret_squirrel replied to HoarseMann | 2 years ago
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Read the twitter replies.  Its old news - since 2017 - they have made far more assertive statements since.

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Hirsute replied to HoarseMann | 2 years ago
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Thanks for that.
Hoping for Andy Cox to come up with a national standard.

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IanMK replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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I don't submit a lot of footage, it's so time consuming, but when I do it's normally to TVP. I have to say in recent months they have confirmed that in 3 incidents the driver was going to go on a driver awareness course. I think that costs £95 (not totally sure). This certainly seems to be a much higher rate of action than previously.

If I have a criticism, and this might just be my perception, I think they are more inclined to issue "words of advice" to professional drivers (both vans and lorries) despite the fact thay they bare more responsibility under the hierarchy.

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Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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The mischief maker in me thinks someone should get an old transit van, get a residents permit if needed, SORN it, then carve the side off of it and put bike stands inside.  I'd pay into a crowd funder for that.

Hell you could go the whole hog and jazz it up as the Council Shame Van.

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Flâneur replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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"SORN it"

But it's still "on the (public) road", so it's manifestly not "off the road". And so it will need taxed, insured and (probably) MOTed to be legal.

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anyuser replied to Flâneur | 2 years ago
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Get one more than 40 years old then you can avoid the mot and tax issues.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Flâneur | 2 years ago
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Flâneur wrote:

"SORN it"

But it's still "on the (public) road", so it's manifestly not "off the road". And so it will need taxed, insured and (probably) MOTed to be legal.

Technically yes.  Practically no as its rarely enforced.  See WTJS's frequent posts amongst others.  However taxing might be better as some aggrived resistent would probably complain.

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IanMK replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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In the photos there appears to be what looks like a bit like a horsebox. Might be a better option for cycle storage? What are the rules about these parked on residential streets?

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