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Police slammed for telling cyclists to “find another method of transport if you don’t want to cycle on the road”; Lance Armstrong sent to Mars… for reality TV show; Wout Van Aert rides an OVO bike in Glasgow; Are LTNs vote-winners? + more on the live blog

It’s Friday and Ryan Mallon’s here for the final live blog before the Bank Holiday weekend (isn’t it awful nice of the government to give us all an extra day for the start of the Giro?)
05 May 2023, 09:23
North Promenade, St Anne's (Google Maps)
“Build more cycle lanes instead of threatening folk!” Police slammed for telling cyclists to “find another method of transport if you don’t want to cycle on the road”

Well, this is certainly one way to annoy people who ride bikes in your area…

Police in Lancashire have been roundly condemned online after what could best be described as a clumsily worded Facebook post warning cyclists against riding on pavements in the seaside town of Lytham St Annes and advising them – if they don’t feel safe cycling on the road – to “find another method of transport”.

The post from Fylde Police, shared yesterday afternoon by Officer Rowe, noted that that the force has apparently “been receiving an increase in complaints around cycling on the footpath in and around the St Anne’s area, including the town centre and all the way up to Heyhouses Lane, and we are concerned that someone is going to get seriously hurt as a result of this happening.”

The statement continued: “Please can we remind you that, if you choose to cycle on a footpath and not on the road, then you are in fact committing an offence (aside from shared footpaths, Clifton Drive North etc) which will be dealt with via a fixed penalty notice.

“If you don’t want to cycle on the road, then I suggest you find another method of transport.”

It’s fair to say that the advice hasn’t gone down too well with local cyclists, with some reaching for their calendars to check the date.

“Is this actually for real, or a joke?!!” asked an incredulous Graeme. “The path along Lytham prom is actually a SHARED PATH... supposedly! It’s not ideal for that, admittedly, because it’s narrow, but it IS a shared path, and part of National Cycle network 62.

“If this is a joke by Fylde Police then it’s not a very funny one... and April 1st was last month.”

Meanwhile, Gareth was suspicious about how the police came about their data, and accused the force of adopting an anti-cycling attitude.

“Can I ask for your actual stats on this as you say increased... how have you been monitoring this?” he asked. “And how have you correlated the actual evidence? It seems far-fetched at best and your post seems very anti-cycling rather than balanced in its nature.”

> Why do cyclists ride on the pavement? New study explores why

Others, meanwhile, astutely noted that perhaps Fylde Police would be better off exploring why so many cyclists don’t feel safe riding on the borough’s roads.

“It’s tricky this,” wrote Michael. “I agree hurtling at speed on the pavements is dangerous.

“Though as per the advice from Fylde police – should you not feel safe cycling on the road, then the PCSO suggests finding alternative transport – sadly it’s dangerous for cyclists on the road. So as per the advice – jump in your cars.

“Maybe a review by LCC and council to make the problem of dangerous roads a priority. As I say, I agree that speeding on a foot path is wrong, but a parent taking a young child out on a bike… I don’t believe that the majority of cyclists, particularly those with a young child, feel entitled. They and I feel the roads are just too dangerous [thanks to] speeding motorists.”

Gill added: “I have to cycle from St Annes to Whitehills Business Park for work and on, especially at the moment with the state of Queensway, have no choice but to cycle on the pavement.

“I am always very careful and I do stop if there are people walking on the pavement. I only wish car drivers were as thoughtful. I feel as though sometimes, especially on School Road, that some drivers go as fast and as close to me as they can just to frighten me.”

Finally, Rob offered a simple solution to the whole thing: “Build more cycle lanes instead of threatening folk!”

05 May 2023, 17:59
Glaswegians, hide your Strava PRs! Wout Van Aert is beating them... on a NEXT bike!
Van Aert goes on TT bike + Strava post from Glasgow (Picture by Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

No one is safe! The now moustache-toting Belgian was out collecting KOMs in Stirlingshire today morning, before hitting the streets of Glasgow on a rental bike and experiencing the "risky business", ie. cycling in Great Britain.

> Wout van Aert takes time trial bike to Scotland for World Championships recon —then rides an OVO bike on Glasgow’s “risky” streets

Gone are the days when you would have to fear for your KOMs (if you have any) when a three-time cyclocross champion was in your area. Now Wout Van Aert, as if to add to your miseries, is destroying locals' personal records on Strava whilst riding the boat-like NEXT bikes.

05 May 2023, 15:50
Comment of the Day: Lance Armstrong and Accidental Partridge

Ah, it all makes sense now.

‘Stars on Mars’, the new reality show featuring seven-time Tour de France winner and everyone’s favourite happy-go-lucky kind of guy, Lance Armstrong, is the brainchild of Britain’s most celebrated cycling commentator (“Like cattle on bikes!”) Alan Partridge…

Live blog comment 5 May 2023

Right, that’s it for another week on the live blog, folks. Enjoy the start of the Giro – I mean, the Bank Holiday weekend…

(Spoiler: I’ll be swearing my allegiance to the true king, Gianni Savio.)

05 May 2023, 15:17
Jumbo-Visma Giro chaos continues as Jan Tratnik crashes in training

The terrifying curse of the pre-Giro period has continued to strike Jumbo-Visma, whose aim to put Primož Roglič in pink in Rome has been dealt a further blow by the news, confirmed by the team this afternoon, that Jan Tratnik has crashed in training near Pescara and is currently in hospital.

Jan Tratnik, 2022 Giro d'Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Tratnik riding the opening TT of the 2022 Giro d’Italia in Budapest (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

According to Tutto Bici, the Slovenian – a former Giro stage winner who has looked impressive since his winter move from Bahrain-Victorious – suffered a very swollen knee in the crash and at the moment appears a major doubt for tomorrow’s opening time trial to Ortona.

Tratnik’s late injury scare marks what Jumbo-Visma surely hope will be the end of a tumultuous run-up to the Giro. First, Wilco Kelderman was ruled out through injury last month, while Tobias Foss, Robert Gesink, and Jos van Emden (a replacement rider himself) have all contracted Covid this week and won’t take to the start ramp in Fossacesia.

Well surely, Roglič  hopes, that’s all the bad luck over for one race. Right? Right?

05 May 2023, 14:49
Tom Hashemi bike at bedtime departure london
“Looks like today is going to be a rest day”: Cycling riding to Ukraine for charity hospitalised after crashing on tram lines

Tom Hashemi, the cyclist riding across Europe to Lviv, Ukraine, to raise funds to help clear landmines in the war-torn country, and doing so on a snazzily-painted Giant Defy, has hit an unexpected speed bump on his 2,000km journey – or, to be more precise, he’s hit a tramline.

Tom Hashemi Giant Defy bike at bedtime

> Check out this restored Giant Defy with Ukraine & Union Jack custom paint that's on a 2,000km journey to Lviv

Tom, a CEO of a communications consultancy with colleagues in Ukraine, was riding through Nordhausen, slap bang in the centre of Germany, this morning when his wheels got caught in the tram line, bringing him down with a thud, and leaving him with a pretty painful looking shoulder.

He’s currently in hospital, where he’s being monitored for 24 hours for concussion symptoms, and is chalking up today as a fairly unforseen “rest day”.

Get well soon, Tom!

05 May 2023, 14:13
“Can’t we do better than this?”

I know, I know. I must sound like a broken record by now when it comes to Belfast’s horrific approach to active travel. But I really can’t help it when the city continues to live up to its lofty standards…

05 May 2023, 13:30
Serene Demi Vollering beats battling Van Vleuten on Vuelta’s first summit finish

It’s not too much of an exercise in hyperbole to suggest that this afternoon on the Mirador de Peñas Llanas, the first summit finish of this year’s revamped Vuelta Femenina, the past and present of women’s cycling collided.

The two riders representing this collision of epochs (though in reality, it was a hilltop sprint): 26-year-old Demi Vollering, the star of the spring whose story is currently being written at breakneck speed; and Annemiek van Vleuten, the 40-year-old world champion and an era-defining talent whose own tale has largely, now, been told – though she’s confident that there’ll be a few more sentences penned before retirement beckons at the end of the year.

Age is not the only thing that separates these two superstars, who battled it out for the stage win today at the Vuelta, and who will – I’m sure – contest the overall victory this weekend.

Having dispatched Ricarda Bauernfeind, the young German enjoying a breakthrough ride, FDJ’s Évita Muzic, and the most exciting pure climber in the sport right now, Gaia Realini, whose legs were dulled by setting the pace for most of the long, draggy climb, Vollering and Van Vleuten slugged it out in the final 300 metres.

In terms of style, the pair represented the two ends of the sprinting spectrum. Vollering, seated, composed, constantly in control. Van Vleuten, always on the pedals, almost ragged, wrestling with the bike.

It takes more than one way to win a bike race – and potentially dominate an era of cycling – but this time the stage, and quite possibly this year, belonged to Vollering, whose win takes her into the red jersey, which she inherits from another of cycling’s legendary figures, Marianne Vos.

Despite being distanced on the first mountain of the day, shipping four minutes at one point, the Jumbo-Visma star put in a ferocious chase (in a group containing Liane Lippert and the unfortunate, frustrated Niamh Fisher-Black, who crashed out of the front group following a botched bottle exchange with Vollering) to come within 30 seconds of the leaders before the fireworks started on the final hill.

Most importantly, however, Vollering’s serene sprint ensures that she now sits five seconds ahead of the never-say-die, always fighting Van Vleuten on GC.

The stage is now tantalisingly set for an epic tussle on Sunday between two of the sport’s defining talents on one of its defining climbs, the Lagos de Covadonga.

I can’t wait.

05 May 2023, 12:58
Is there a doctor in the lead group at the Vuelta? Yes, three actually…

And another doctor, Anna Kiesenhofer (a postdoctoral fellow in mathematics), chasing back to the front. Impressive stuff… 

05 May 2023, 12:22
‘Ah, so that’s where my headset bearings ended up…’
05 May 2023, 11:55
2023 Trek-Segafredo Trek Emonda - 27.jpeg
Clear the middle aisle! Trek-Segafredo rumoured to become Lidl-Trek in time for Tour de France

Are we about to see a lovely new Trek Madone sitting in the middle aisle, beside a garden chair and some colouring books, while we do our groceries this summer?

Probably not, but there are currently rumours flying around Belgium and Italy that Lidl is set to take over as title sponsor of the Trek-Segafredo team, just in time for this year’s Tour de France.

Trek-Segafredo-Womens-Roubaix- elisa longo borghini

According to Het Laatste Nieuws, the supermarket giant – which sponsored the QuickStep team for five years from 2016 and currently backs the Flanders Classics races – will replace Italian coffee company Segafredo, whose contract with the US-registered squad, home to Mads Pedersen, Elisa Longo Borghini, Lizzie Deignan, and Giulio Ciccone, is set to expire at the end of this year.

The Belgian paper reports that, while little is currently known about the terms of the deal, with Trek keeping schtum, it will result in a “hefty budget increase” for the team, which will be known as Lidl-Trek from 1 July.

Lidl-Trek, isn’t that the kind of bike Gaia Realini asks her mechanics for? I’ll get my coat…

05 May 2023, 11:19
Potentially decisive Giro mountain time trial in doubt as teams raise concerns about inability of support cars to follow riders

The Grande Partenza of the 2023 Giro d’Italia may only be taking place tomorrow, with a seaside 18.4km time trial between Fossacesia and Ortona, but the race’s penultimate stage – an individual effort finishing at the top of Monte Lussari – is already being called into question.

2023 Giro d'Italia stage 20 finish

Giro organisers RCS Sport are planning on sending the riders, after an opening 10km on flat roads (where normal TT rules on support cars apply), up a steep, narrow path for the final 7.5km – which means teams won’t be able to follow by car, with RCS expecting to provide any assistance in the case of a puncture or mechanical, by motorbike.

This has raised concerns within the peloton (just imagine if the Giro was decided by an untimely Evenepoel bike change in the final kilometres?), and a letter seen by Cyclingnews suggests that the UCI – acting on behalf of the teams – has asked RCS to modify the stage or risk cancelling it altogether.

The Giro organisers have apparently studied the matter prior to meeting with the team managers today.

There are rumours that the stage could possibly be moved to another nearby, and more car-friendly, summit finish, such as the iconic and notoriously steep Monte Zoncolan.

Remco Evenepoel wins Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2023 (image via Twitter)

“It is a bit of a shame that they are only now realising that there are problems,” world champion and pre-race favourite Remco Evenepoel told Sporza when asked about the issues surrounding the proposed penultimate stage.

“We can still ride to the foot of the final climb and finish there. Then it’s an 11-kilometer time trial. I find it difficult to completely cancel that ride. But they can still make something else out of it.

“There are plenty of climbs nearby that we can get to the top of. They’ll find something, I don’t expect there won’t be a stage 20 in this Giro. And preferably a similar time trial on a course that can be ridden by all types of vehicles. It is a pity that they would only come up with that decision now. Because they could have known this longer.”

05 May 2023, 10:44
“Leave space for a life”: Cycling Scotland launches powerful new safe passing campaign

Powerful stuff.

However, as some have noted on Twitter, Police Scotland’s involvement in an initiative designed to encourage motorists to leave cyclists more space would be greatly enhanced if it got round to finally introducing its long-awaited online road safety reporting portal:

> Delays to introduction of online road safety portal putting cyclists “at risk”, says Cycling UK 

05 May 2023, 10:24
One day until the Giro starts… So get your DS caps on, because it’s Fantasy Cycling time!
road.cc Fantasy Giro d'Italia 2023

It’s the most wonderful time of the year, when we spend hours and hours ignoring work and loved ones while studying stage profiles, start lists, and stats websites, desperate to stumble upon the perfect mix of quality, form, and value in order to stand on that virtual podium in Rome (okay, your living room) three weeks later.

> Join us for Fantasy Giro d'Italia!

Who are you picking for your road.cc Giro fantasy team? Are you willing to blow the budget on Remco or Primož, or are you favouring stealthier underdogs like Vlasov or Tao?

What about the sprinters? Are you backing Cav to wind back the clock once again (without a lead-out train in sight as well)?

And, like me, are you ruing the fact that the in-form, electric Ben Healy is no longer the unknown Fantasy Cycling quantity he was a few short weeks ago?

Right, I’m off to pick my team – I’ll see you all in six hours or so…

05 May 2023, 09:56
There’s a guy works down the chip shop swears he’s Fausto Coppi…

“This cap was worn by Fausto Coppi in 1973.”

Errr, do you want to tell the seller or should I? 

05 May 2023, 08:43
“Maybe LTNs just aren’t that controversial?”

Remember how, over the course of the last year or so, activists opposed to Low Traffic Neighbourhoods have vowed to boot those responsible for them out at the next local election, and prove once and for all that LTNs are deeply unpopular?

I know it’s still early in the day, but let’s see how that plan is panning out so far:

Yes, that must be it… 

05 May 2023, 08:07
Lance Armstrong on Stars on Mars (Fox)
Has Travis Tygart gone too far this time? Lance Armstrong is being sent to Mars… for a reality TV show (hosted by William Shatner)

A substantial and vocal portion of the cycling community appears to have been finally granted their wish, after all these years – Lance Armstrong has been sent packing to Mars.

But, before you all rush to your keyboards, this isn’t some new draconian punishment dreamed up by Travis Tygart during a particularly bad bout of the flu.

Instead, Big Tex, Mellow Johnny, Juan Pelota etc. will be taking part in a new reality TV series called ‘Stars on Mars’. Yes, you read that right.

Lance Armstrong on Fox's Stars on Mars (Fox)

‘So you know what I did then? I took a photo with all my yellow jerseys! That showed them…’

The imaginatively titled show, which is set to air in the US on Fox (where else?) in June, will feature a dozen celebrities (and disgraced former Tour de France winners, apparently) who will compete, while dressed in very snazzy spacesuits, to colonise a simulated version of the Red Planet. So far, so very American.

The crew members – who also include UFC and WWE star Ronda Rousey, Super Bowl winner Marshawn Lynch, Modern Family’s Ariel Winter, actor Christopher Mintz-Plasse (McLovin!!!!), and some other people I’m not as familiar with – will receive their assignments on ‘Mars’ from none other than Captain Kirk himself, William Shatner.

Although, for some reason, the producers went with a Star Wars reference for the promo clip, shared by LA. Because space, I think…

Anyway, each week the celebrities will send one of their teammates “back to Earth”, before the “brightest star in the galaxy” is left. Let’s just hope that Lance doesn’t employ his old persuasion tactics to avoid being booted out again, eh?

> Why was Mark Cavendish riding with Lance Armstrong this week?

Most importantly, however – what’s Big George going to get up to when his buddy’s away on Mars?

Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Khan takes ULEZ to new level

https://theupperlip.co.uk/2023/05/breaking-sadiq-khan-to-hit-red-arrows-...

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Sadiq Khan has announced that the iconic Red Arrows display team will be hit with a ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) charge. Khan, known for his progressive policies and determination to make London a greener city, defended his decision, stating that “nobody should be above the law – even if they’re above the ground!

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hawkinspeter replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Khan takes ULEZ to new level

https://theupperlip.co.uk/2023/05/breaking-sadiq-khan-to-hit-red-arrows-...

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Sadiq Khan has announced that the iconic Red Arrows display team will be hit with a ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) charge. Khan, known for his progressive policies and determination to make London a greener city, defended his decision, stating that “nobody should be above the law – even if they’re above the ground!

Though it's satire (right wing satire?) they've missed the far greater issue that aviation fuel isn't taxed at all.

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Sadiq Khan has announced that the iconic Red Arrows display team will be hit with a ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) charge...

That seems unfair, they're a bit polluting, true, but consider:  if they're still using Hawks the the whole of London could be turned into a 15 minute city (well, 4-5 min at top speed) OR you could keep the same "15 minute city" distances but just make the place 12-second city neighbourhoods!  Well, minus some time to get up to speed and then stop.

Hang on, they're about 10 metres wide?  Parking will need a rethink.  Maybe we could bring back a revised version of Boris Island for that?

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chrisonabike replied to chrisonabike | 11 months ago
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I hope they did a local version like they had for the Jubilee also.

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Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Nothing to do with cycling but is topical

made me laugh out loud !

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Nothing to do with cycling but is topical

Mordaunt did very well- didn't move a muscle for hours!

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Steve K replied to wtjs | 11 months ago
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wtjs wrote:

Nothing to do with cycling but is topical

Mordaunt did very well- didn't move a muscle for hours!

Once again, I found myself grateful to the Queen for holding on so long, so we had Penny M doing this role and no Jacob Rees Mogg. (Ditto Sunak and Johnson.)

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Rendel Harris replied to wtjs | 11 months ago
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wtjs wrote:

Mordaunt did very well- didn't move a muscle for hours!

Years of practice in the House of Commons and the Cabinet never lifting a finger to help anyone.

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Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Pull the other one Awavey it's got bells on !

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23503230.claims-puma-bit-cyclist-downham-ma...

Police have been called out to reports of a big cat in Downham Market, including one incident in which a cyclist claimed to have been bitten by a puma.

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mark1a replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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NFN? 😁

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Awavey replied to chrisonabike | 11 months ago
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indeed, Black Shuck is a powerful local folklore legend in these parts, you really can see what look like scorch/claw marks on the door of the church at Blythburgh, and youll see hellhound/black shuck weather vanes and the name pop in lots of places locally, weirdly I think it has more resonance in Norfolk,even though it originated in Suffolk, because alot of the stories involved the broads, wherrymen seeing the demonic hound patrolling on the banks kind of stuff.

but yeah its a regular thing people report seeing even today, hence the newspapers interest to fill space I guess, never seen it myself  1 though its often been reported around the areas I ride, it just makes you mindful the countryside is still a mysterious place sometimes.

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ktache replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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A bigger question for me is why is there a pack of dogs there?

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Hirsute replied to ktache | 11 months ago
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Foxes ?

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Awavey replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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not guilty your honour blush thats that weird part of Norfolk thats basically the bits of Cambridgeshire fenlands not good enough to be in Cambridgeshire.

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Rendel Harris | 11 months ago
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Sad to hear of the untimely death of Tony Doyle at 64, just four weeks after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Absolute unit on the track (double world champion and 26 six-day titles) and founder of a lasting legacy for UK cycling as the first director of the Tour of Britain.

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belugabob | 11 months ago
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Dear Fylde Police - if you don't like going out without a stab vest, truncheon, pepper spray and tazer, may I suggest you find an alternative form of employment...

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jh2727 replied to belugabob | 11 months ago
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The officer who made the statement was a PCSO, so they aren't issued with a truncheon, pepper spray or tazer.

I don't agree with what the officer said, however pavement cyclists are a signficant part of the problem, IMHO. The prohibition on cycling on the pavement exists for the protection of cyclists as it does for anyone else - cyclists who ride on the pavement or in the gutter put themselves at significant risk. Cycling on the pavement also reinforces the view all roads are motorways. I appreciate it is a chicken and egg scenario, but our only realistic hope of getting safer roads, is for more people to cycle on them.

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belugabob replied to jh2727 | 11 months ago
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jh2727 wrote:

The officer who made the statement was a PCSO, so they aren't issued with a truncheon, pepper spray or tazer.

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I don't agree with what the officer said, however pavement cyclists are a signficant part of the problem, IMHO. The prohibition on cycling on the pavement exists for the protection of cyclists as it does for anyone else - cyclists who ride on the pavement or in the gutter put themselves at significant risk. Cycling on the pavement also reinforces the view all roads are motorways. I appreciate it is a chicken and egg scenario, but our only realistic hope of getting safer roads, is for more people to cycle on them.

My point was made for dramatic/sarcastic effect, but your point about the PCSO is somewhat valid.

The problem is that the statement fully acknowledges the main reason for people cycling on the pavement, whilst totally failing to address the cause of that problem. In my mind, this is victim blaming and responsibility avoidance.

As for chicken and egg, I agree, but also feel that those in authority are the chickens.

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wycombewheeler replied to jh2727 | 11 months ago
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jh2727 wrote:

I appreciate it is a chicken and egg scenario, but our only realistic hope of getting safer roads, is for more people to cycle on them.

some enforcement against bad driving would help.  It's amazing how often the police make statements about people not feeling safe to use the roads in a legal manner, but fail to make the connection this means the police are failing to keep the roads safe.

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Martynofsheepy replied to jh2727 | 11 months ago
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So not even a real policeman!! He was not entitled to make comments like this. Only a proper officer should make police statements on social media and even then under supervision. This should be ignored.

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Ride On replied to belugabob | 11 months ago
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A couple of days this week I have cycled with my kids 11km to school and back. It's mostly a good journey with off road cycle paths or shared paths or quiet-ish roads. For about 400metres however there is no cycle path alongside a fairly busy road ... so we go on the narrow pavement. I know it's a pain but it's also a lot safer.

Complete joined up infrastructure please.

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Hirsute replied to Ride On | 11 months ago
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But how did you carry the long bows ?

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Ride On replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Still scratching my head. You'll have to explain that one.

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chrisonabike replied to Ride On | 11 months ago
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See road.cc from before - search this news article for "Won't somebody please think of the children who can't take longbows on the bus — latest bizarre congestion charge campaigning"

File under "I've built my life around the car like everyone does - and now I've heard on the twitters that the council are changing stuff and they're expecting us suddenly to just use bikes public transport for everything!"

I've a tiny bit of sympathy for their alarm / lack of confidence.  Most people can remember a bunch of stuff that councils did or didn't do which inconvenienced them.  On the other side it's rare you hear people saying good things.  Some folks have dark comments about injustice or graft - some of which are quite true.

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Hirsute replied to Ride On | 11 months ago
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Chrisonatrike explained first !

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

But how did you carry the long bows ?

Presumably on the long hair?

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Ride On replied to chrisonabike | 11 months ago
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Thanks for explaining.
P.S. Where's Toto?

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