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Councillor says they got "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists to use £700,000 shared-use path; "Not the type of fan we want": EF Education-EasyPost's Jonathan Vaughters shares grim homophobic 'fan mail'; TdF: Unchained hits Netflix + more on the live blog
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oxon travel cycle lane picture - via twitter.PNG08 June 2023, 09:23
Councillor says they got "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists to use shared-use path
A councillor in Dunfermline, in Scotland, has told the local press how they received "dog's abuse" for telling cyclists they should use cycle lanes, namely a shared-use path that cost £700,000 to build.
Jean Hall-Muir accused local cyclists of taking the law "unto themselves", saying they "do what they want".
"If you provide a cycle lane they go on the road. If you point it out you get dog's abuse from the cyclists as they don't want to hear it from anyone else," she said.
"I would like to see an elevated responsibility from the cyclists. If you're provided with a dedicated lane, you're expected to use that and stay in it, but I don't know how much we can do."
Interestingly the article was illustrated with a picture of one new-looking shared-use path on Aberdour Road, the sort of infrastructure that could help new riders who might not have the confidence to negotiate the road and would otherwise be cycling on the pavement (or not at all), but might seem unnecessary to those with more experience.
"We can't make people use them," Lesley Craig, from the traffic management service added. "It's a mandatory cycle lane that's there for their use but we're dealing with human nature. If cyclists are still allowed to cycle on the road we can't enforce against them doing that. We just have to provide what we can and hope they will use it."
Another councillor, Lynn Ballantyne-Wardlaw, had at least spoken to those of us told to use such 'infrastructure'... "One of the reasons cyclists shared with me, as to why they still cycle on the road rather than use cycle lanes, is that the detritus and mess that ends up on cycle lanes damages their wheels and they find it safer on the road."
At risk of veering off into opinion here... can councillors really get miffed if the extent of their 'infra' is widening and resurfacing a pavement and calling it a shared-use path? I think I already know the answer, but it's nice to have a short relief after writing all of the above...
08 June 2023, 14:50
"If cyclists aren't using the infrastructure provided, then it's probably not very good"
Comments time... I'm going to selectively bypass the debate on what constitutes dog's abuse...
OnYerBike: Preaching to the choir here, but if cyclists aren't using the infrastructure provided, then it's probably not very good. Cyclists just want a convenient and safe route. Rather than trying to "force" cyclists to use the infrastructure provided, maybe think about why cyclists don't want to use it and then try to improve it.
Steve K nailed it...
"Bloody cyclists, cycling on the pavement"
(puts up shared use sign)
"Bloody cyclists, not cycling on the pavement"
hawkinspeter: "They build a shitty 'cycle lane', don't maintain it, have it cede priority at every side road and then blame cyclists for not using it."
HoldingOn: "I try and avoid shared footpaths if I can — the one section I do use it, is because the road is very narrow, full of potholes and car/lorries get so f****** close I have to change my shorts.
"Do I avoid the shared footpaths as some form of weird protest or a feeling of self-entitlement? No — as with (I would imagine) most cyclists, I avoid the shared footpaths because I am going a heck of a lot quicker than pedestrians, on a vehicle that is quieter than someone running.
"I need to slow way down when I see a pedestrian, because chances are they can't hear me/my bell (definitely not if they are wearing headphones) and last thing I want is to crash into someone/ get a punch from someone who got a fright as I went past."
08 June 2023, 16:06
Jonas Vingegaard lays down Tour de France marker, dominates Critérium du Dauphiné
I wonder if somewhere near Granada, at altitute, a certain Slovenian was watching this?
🏁 🇩🇰Jonas Vingegaard termine en solitaire pour remporter l’étape et endosser le @MaillotJauneLCL. 💛
⏪ Revivez le dernier kilomètre.🏁 🇩🇰Jonas Vingegaard finishes solo! He wins Stage 5 and takes the Yellow Jersey. 💛
⏪ Relive the last kilometre.#Dauphiné pic.twitter.com/KCOXoptgTM— Critérium du Dauphiné (@dauphine) June 8, 2023
Extra training motivation, I guess, seeing your big rival for the Tour de France dispatch all the other Dauphiné hopefuls with one strong attack. We're not even in the mountains yet...
08 June 2023, 16:17
08 June 2023, 15:59
Have pro cyclists 'gone soft'? We discuss the big debate from the Giro and perceptions of elite sport (and us mortals), while Simon samples Drum & Bass On The Bike on our latest podcast episode
08 June 2023, 15:26
Lidl-Trek kit clue?
a BMW from lidl 🙃 pic.twitter.com/sCJoxIjVgj
— TipsNstars (Thomas) 🔮 (@tipsnstars) June 8, 2023
08 June 2023, 07:57
"Not the type of fan we want": EF Education-EasyPost's Jonathan Vaughters shares grim homophobic 'fan mail'
Here's a depressing start to a live blog in 2023. EF Education-EasyPost's team boss Jonathan Vaughters shared a picture of an email that dropped into his inbox after yesterday's Critérium du Dauphiné time trial where British rider James Shaw was the team's best finisher, in 17th, and team leader Richard Carapaz lost a disappointing 2:39, coming home 43rd...
Warning: email includes very strong homophobic language
It’s the fan mail we get that really keeps everyone motivated. pic.twitter.com/w2jdcYEWwd
— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) June 7, 2023
Wait until he sees what Carapaz was wearing in 2019...
A reminder that Carapaz was bossing it in pink well before joining E Education-EasyPost 😉 pic.twitter.com/WYq6PM5e2P
— Simon MacMichael 🏴🇮🇹🇪🇺❤️💙🚲 (@simonmacmichael) June 7, 2023
"In case there was any need of clarification, as there often is on Twitter, this person, whoever they are, is not the type of fan we want. Period," Vaughters added.
As one real fan replied, hopefully they sent a nice pink EF cap to whichever basement this particular email came from...
08 June 2023, 14:02
G enjoys Tour de France: Unchained... sort of
Enjoy #TDFUnchained everyone. Cheers Sa 👍 pic.twitter.com/w7xVtbNlxn
— Geraint Thomas (@GeraintThomas86) June 8, 2023
08 June 2023, 13:19
08 June 2023, 13:20
Basically
08/06/23 🔮 pic.twitter.com/apQLBT5Y5o
— Wout van Art 🥷✊ (@waltersamuel45) June 7, 2023
If you were wondering, it's a lumpy hilly stage out in France today, a breakaway of breakaway favourites: Thomas De Gendt, Nils Politt, Edvald Boasson Hagen, Jonas Gregaard, Georg Zimmermann and Leon Heinschke. Despite the group's escapee credentials, it doesn't look like the peloton will let them decide the day, just over two and a half minutes advantage with 40km to go.
Over in the Netherlands, Cav has the opportunity to follow up his Rome success with another victory, on the opening roads stage of ZLM Tour after last night's prologue. Worth noting, for the first time, he'll have the support of the team's lead-out (of sorts), including former DSM fast man Cees Bol.
08 June 2023, 12:10
Is Shimano working on a hub-charged electronic shift system?
08 June 2023, 11:11
Early reaction to Netflix's €8 million Tour de France documentary series
It's been up on Netflix in the UK for four hours now so the breakaway is making its way through the episodes. Those of you sat comfortably in the peloton (at work) will have a few hours longer to wait before your turn to get stuck into the action.
We're not particularly bothered about spoilers for this one, after all we all know what happens, right? But if you are hoping to keep things completely fresh for your viewing, maybe give this post a miss...
One thing popping up a few times is the recommendation to watch it in French with English subtitles, partly for the authenticity, partly because the voice actor dubbing is apparently somewhere between terrible and horrendous...
"The English dubbing on this Netflix Tour de France series is f****** awful. The guy sounds like some crazed carnivore hunting for his prey. Much better in French with English subtitles (if you need it like)," one particularly gifted wordsmith reviewed the series...
Anyone know when that Tour de France documentary is out on Netflix? Not read a single thing about it on this app lately
— George Poole (@GeorgePuddle) June 8, 2023
On Twitter, Tim O'Connor said: "You see the emotional side of both" Thibaut Pinot and Marc Madiot, while we've also seen suggestions that Tadej Pogačar's absence is notable.
Anyone had a chance to watch an episode yet?
08 June 2023, 10:49
'Tour de France: Unchained' teaser clip — Pidcock vs Galibier descent
Just to keep you going until you get to watch it...
A segment just on Pidcock's Galibier descent, oh yes 🤩😱pic.twitter.com/KBWCJLvxGz
— Dan Deakins (@DanDeakins) June 7, 2023
08 June 2023, 10:44
Uh oh… Wait, you still have your KOM/QOM! Strava to automatically flag suspicious activities in hopes to improve leaderboard accuracy
08 June 2023, 08:52
People flee by bike from flooding caused by Ukraine dam collapse
People to trying to get away from the flooding in Ukraine after the dam collapsed. On their bikes.
This is really much, much harder than it looks. Respect! pic.twitter.com/k8F8u7aJdI— Henk Swarttouw (@copenhenken) June 7, 2023
08 June 2023, 08:43
Tour de France: Unchained hits Netflix
And it's live...
Here’s your trailer for Tour de France: Unchained – from the producers of Drive to Survive – coming 8 June! pic.twitter.com/S7F7szGP8m
— Netflix UK & Ireland (@NetflixUK) June 2, 2023
Apparently at the end Jonas Vingegaard wins... sorry, spoilers!
Anyone got any early thoughts?
Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.
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But why do you see pink? Because your paint is reflecting to you the red and purple portions of the spectrum, not because it's reflecting back a little bit of red and a lot of white light.
But why do you see "pink"? Because you have learned how to map your experiences / mental states * to some of the meanings of "pink" that are shared with others.
* This says nothing about whether those experiences - and certainly not mental states - are necessarily the same as someone else's. FWIW I got quite adept at identifying different "colours" when playing games on my monochrome green screen monitor many moons ago, aided by the very limited palette of the system. So that snooker quote about "for those of you watching in black and white..." may not have been as silly as it sounded!
Sorry Rendel - in this case you are wrong
Your second proposition is the correct answer.
If you need an explanation let me know.
OK, very briefly, the colour the eye sees is the parts of the spectrum that a substance reflects. When you see pink that is because the substance you are looking at is reflecting a mixture of the red and purple part of the spectrum. I would welcome an explanation of why that's not so.
Sorry Rendel - in this case you are wrong
Your second proposition is the correct answer.
If you need an explanation let me know.
You seem to not know the difference between additive colour mixing and subtractive colour mixing and seem to be confusing the combination of multiple wavelengths if light (additive) with the mixing of paint colours (subtractive). Even Rendel should take what you say with a pinch of salt.
OnYerBike
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10 months ago
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Preaching to the choir here, but if cyclists aren't using the infrastructure provided, then it's probably not very good. Cyclists just want a convenient and safe route. Rather than trying to "force" cyclists to use the infrastructure provided, maybe think about why cyclists don't want to use it and then try to improve it.
I note that if you follow the link to the full article on the Dunfermline Press website, you have another classic of the genre: Mr MacLean claiming that the problem is people who "wouldn't look out of place in a cycle race" and therefore everyone ought to be buying a different bike/tyres to use on this short piece of path.
Can we please have cycling infra designed by people who actually ride bikes?
Round my way, people and dogs walk in/into cycle paths, the paths give way at every side turning and riders are constantly at risk from motorists turning into/out of driveways - not to mention cycle paths that end where pedestrians wait at signal controlled crossings. Then there's broken glass and other junk. Not practical or safe at 20-25mph.
If this seems a bit pissy, I'm available to help design the next £10 million roundabout and I will be sure to add these wonderful features for motorists to enjoy. I'm sure it will be a grand success.
What is 'Dog's abuse' anyway?
Where your owner slathers peanut butter on their testicles and refuses to feed you until you lick it off for them? Just my experience anyway.
Every day a school day here - and people say they feel the site provides no value!
What school did you go to?
mctrials23
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10 months ago
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I always wonder if those sort of emails are "real" or someone trying to parody a homophobic prick. Thats like a characature of a person you would see in a badly written TV show. The bit about a baseball cap with block letters being the correct and manly type of headwear is just a little too ridiculous for me to take it seriously.
Re the councillor getting "dog's abuse" - does this mean I can give "dog's abuse" to people who chose to drive on A and B roads, rather than the motorways provided exclusively for driverists?
They build a shitty "cycle lane", don't maintain it, have it cede priority at every side road and then blame cyclists for not using it.
Didn't see any cyclists but reluctantly built the cheapest "facility" because complaints about "bloody pavement cyclists!" and "not safe to cycle on the road!"
Ensued it didn't inconvenience motorists because "everyone drives" and the mere idea of "wasting money on cycle infra" leads to a raging on Twitter / opponents (of any party) sniping.
Happily prove selves right because "nobody uses it".
Pattern has proved effective for over a quarter century now.
I try and avoid shared footpaths if I can - the one section I do use it, is because the road is very narrow, full of potholes and car/lorries get so f**king close I have to change my shorts.
Do I avoid the shared footpaths as some form of weird protest or a feeling of self-entitlement?
No - as with (I would imagine) most cyclists, I avoid the shared footpaths because I am going a heck of a lot quicker than pedestrians, on a vehicle that is quieter than someone running. I need to slow way down when I see a pedestrian, because chances are they can't hear me/my bell (definitely not if they are wearing headphones) and last thing I want is to crash into someone/ get a punch from someone who got a fright as I went past.
peted76
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10 months ago
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Vaughters didn't need to publish that message, he's an attention/publicity seeker. I'm sure every team recieves hate mail, goodness, I bet Sky recieved loads over the years and I bet it blew up when old Jimbo Ineos moved in.. haven't ever seen a peep of this sort of PR from Brailsford or others though..
Of course we'll never know... but in my judgy old head.. the person who wrote that 'fan-mail' probably owns at least one gun, has multiple stickers supporting their favourite country/god/politician, drives a pickup truck and shoots squirrels for fun.
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