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"Stop this": Jeremy Vine appeals to motorists over manoeuvre "making it dangerous to use a bicycle"; Cross your fingers for no stomach issue DNFs — Tour of Britain pros cool off in the sea; How many watts to keep up with Van Aert? + more on the live blog

Happy Friday! The weekend is almost here so top up that sun cream and prepare for an early start if you want to get out on the bike this weekend... alternatively, join Dan Alexander and the live blog from the comfort of a cold, dark room
08 September 2023, 07:42
"Stop this": Jeremy Vine appeals to motorists over manoeuvre "making it dangerous to use a bicycle"

Jeremy Vine's editing game has reached quite incredible levels... (enticed by £3 tickets for National Cinema Day, this live blogger may or may not have enjoyed last Saturday's sunshine by watching Jurassic Park indoors, I'm starting to wonder how long before we get trailers for Vine's Nolanesque productions beforehand)... sorry, I got distracted, where were we?

Yes, in one minute we get: the original footage, an introductory message, a message on the side of the offending vehicle, mood-setting music, replays, CSI zooming in, analysis, and a plot twist that the driver actually waved a hand of apology that Vine concludes "means so much" and he has "accepted". What a rollercoaster...

Of course, it wouldn't be one of the BBC and Channel 5 broadcaster's cycling videos without it appearing on Twitter, almost certainly racking up the views throughout the day and causing something of a bin fire in the replies...

In fact, it's only been up for an hour and a half and there are already comments to the tune of...

"I agree the lorry driver should have taken some more care. However, you're going pretty fast on that bike in a very built up area Jeremy. Maybe you too should slow down a bit? Indication was well in advance to warn you!"

"He shouldn't have done it. But the smart, safe thing to do would have been to let him go, and not insisted on going in front then squeezing up the side."

Thoughts?

08 September 2023, 16:08
"Almost like the plane ran over it!": UCI Worlds Gran Fondo rider's Cervélo wrecked in flight transit, but Air Canada denies any responsibility
08 September 2023, 15:45
"A performance like no other": Jumbo-Visma playing PlayStation cycling on easy mode; Vingegaard, Kuss, Roglič 1-2-3 atop the Tourmalet

Domination. Utter domination...

With Evenpoel a distant memory, Jumbo-Visma completed one of the most memorable Grand Tour mountain stage performances in recent history, pulling off a quite ridiculous 1-2-3 on the Vuelta's French adventure up the Tourmalet.

Fittingly, it was two-time Tour champ Jonas Vingegaard who took the stage win, taking off with seven kilometres to go and never looking like being caught as Sepp Kuss and Primož Roglič enjoyed a free ride behind (as free a ride as you can have up the Tourmalet).

With the stage win secured, Kuss set off after his teammate, crossing the line 30 seconds behind, Roglič then coming into shot three seconds behind.

08 September 2023, 14:26
Jumbo-Visma FINALLY beaten at Tour of Britain, Charlotte Kool wins at Simac Tour
Danny van Poppel Tour of Britain win

It 'only' took until day number six for Jumbo-Visma to finally be beaten at this year's Tour of Britain...

The Dutch team was well beaten today, Olav Kooij fading in the final 100m, Ethan Vernon and Danny van Poppel contesting the bike throw. Stage win number five of the week for the Dutch...

There were a couple of crashes that overshadowed the run into Harlow, Fernando Gaviria abandoning after the first of the two before half the peloton was brought down in a high-speed pile-up near the finish. Fingers crossed everyone made it out of that one as fit and healthy as you can be.

No prizes for guessing who's getting the combativity award again tonight. The only issue might be the tension within the team that overspilled into a police incident at today's start...

Over in the Netherlands, Charlotte Kool won the second sprint of the week at the Simac Tour, again compatriot Lorena Wiebes having to settle for second. The weekend promises to be an emotional farewell to Annemiek van Vleuten, with enough lumpiness on the route to tease the thought of a perfect farewell to one of the sport's greats. 

08 September 2023, 13:47
Remc-oh! Evenepoel DROPPED early on Vuelta's Tourmalet stage

Remco Evenpoel's Vuelta defence has gone up in smoke and we're not even at the penultimate climb of stage 13, the Belgian dropping out the front of the race on the Aubisque, along with João Almeida and is now well back.

Jumbo-Visma are unsurprisingly pushing on with their big three stars still in contact. Juan Ayuso, Marc Soler, Enric Mas, Aleksandr Vlasov and Mikel Landa are all up front too. 

Two big climbs to go, ending with the Tourmalet summit finish. We'll bring you the results from the Tour of Britain and the Simac Tour before then...

08 September 2023, 13:23
Mass protest calls for Battersea Bridge to be made safer for cyclists
08 September 2023, 11:03
Shocking video shows multiple cyclists getting hit by "unaware" drivers on a contraflow cycle lane
08 September 2023, 10:52
Live blog bingo... CyclingMikey and Mr Loophole are the guests on Good Morning Britain for camera cyclist discussion

One mention of disc brakes or helmets and we'll have a full house by lunchtime...

08 September 2023, 10:40
What if you swapped Vine for a car? Your reaction to the big story on the live blog this morning...
Jeremy Vine video September 2023 (Twitter/Jeremy Vine)

Reaction time as there are plenty of you getting stuck into the comments section with your thoughts on this one...

mitsky: "About the newest clip from Jeremy Vine... If anyone is questioning whether he (JV) was making too much of it or if the driver was in the wrong, maybe he can do a motor vehicle overlay like CycleGaz has done recently to some clips.

"Then ask if the same manoeuvre by the delivery driver would be acceptable if it was towards a motorist rather than a cyclist... I'm not holding my breath."

Oldfatgit: "Amazing, innit? 'You should have slowed down to let him turn in front' … advice that only seems to exist where the traffic being impeded is a bike. If Jeremy had been driving, would the comments have been the same? Absolutely not."

AidanR: "Also, nobody would say that a driver was going too fast when travelling at what I suspect is no more than 15mph."

 

08 September 2023, 09:22
BIKE NEWS: Ridley combines light weight and aerodynamics on new Falcn RS road bike + Trek lightens entry-level Domane AL road bikes
2023 Ridley Falcn RS - 1

> Ridley combines light weight and aerodynamics on new Falcn RS road bike

We've already got a review of that one, if you're interested...

> REVIEW: Ridley Falcn RS 2023

Oh, and over at Trek too...

2024 Trek Domane AL 4 - 1.jpeg

> Trek lightens entry-level Domane AL road bikes

That after our report yesterday on its new plan to accept used bikes and sell second-hand as part of sustainability drive, even if it "means making and selling less".

08 September 2023, 09:10
How many watts to keep up with Van Aert?

Excuse me? For a minute? Well then, we might as well all pack up and go home...

08 September 2023, 08:27
Super serious tactical breakdown of the Tour of Britain
08 September 2023, 08:18
Cross your fingers for no 'stomach issue' DNFs... Tour of Britain riders cool off in the sea

Tanfield and Townsend take a dip...

As per The Rivers Trust...

The Rivers Trust map

That little clearing on the coast is Felixstowe, just along from Aldeburgh where, The River Trust notes, "in 2022, this sewer storm overflow spilled 65 times for a total of 200.75 hours, discharging into the North Sea." 

Stick to the black shorts today, lads...

08 September 2023, 08:05
road.cc is 15! Here are our top 15 articles of all time (plus plenty of honourable mentions)
roadcc 15 years article lead image

> road.cc is 15! Here are our top 15 articles of all time (plus plenty of honourable mentions)

I see my hungover mid-Christmas week live blog whinging about losing a Strava KOM didn't make the cut, but whatever... that's fine... maybe I'll set up a rival 'my 15 worst live blogs' feature over the weekend...

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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Hirsute | 5 months ago
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bloody cyclists, escaping from jail. Always one rule for them and another for every one else...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66763054

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Hirsute | 5 months ago
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Hirsute | 5 months ago
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One to keep

"Below are academic findings demonstrating the danger of being distracted by your phone whilst in stationary traffic (there have been fatal consequences). Road crime reporting is not victimising the driver… instead it challenges the law-breaking driver and enables safer travel."

Andy Cox

https://twitter.com/AndyCoxDCS/status/1700114642398281751

SA -situation awareness ??

 

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eburtthebike replied to Hirsute | 5 months ago
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Thank you: I'm keeping it.

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Hirsute | 5 months ago
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Love this one

https://twitter.com/BikeBusShaw/status/1700120853344612615

Pick your future. First half or second half of this clip? We know which one we’d like to see… #BikeBus #bicibus
 

 

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 5 months ago
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opposite angle

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 5 months ago
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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 5 months ago
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brooksby | 5 months ago
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View of the Park Row, Bristol, "protected" cycle lane (on the far side of the road, along outside the shops).

The painted 'cycle lane' predates the wands, and isn't a cycle lane any more.

Yeah, plastic wands work just fine, don't they...? surprise

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HoldingOn | 5 months ago
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That GMB Xcrement's misuse of "your/you're" makes me cringe every time I read it.

It doesn't surprise me from GMB, it just makes me cringe.

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hawkinspeter replied to HoldingOn | 5 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

That GMB Xcrement's misuse of "your/you're" makes me cringe every time I read it.

It doesn't surprise me from GMB, it just makes me cringe.

I wonder if it's a tactic to ensure that their audience consists of the poorly educated? Spammers often do a similar trick and deliberately put lots of mistakes into their emails as they don't want to be dealing with people that can spot the errors and instead they just want the uncritical and gullible people.

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 5 months ago
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Never thought about that.  I assumed it was just that those running such schemes were lazy crooks keen businesspeople and wanted to keep their staffing costs down by hiring monkeys.

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HoldingOn replied to hawkinspeter | 5 months ago
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I used to know someone that would purposefully put speeling mistakes into instructions he would write, because he found that people paid more attention to them, as they were trying to spot more.

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hawkinspeter replied to HoldingOn | 5 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

I used to know someone that would purposefully put speeling mistakes into instructions he would write, because he found that people paid more attention to them, as they were trying to spot more.

Sounds related to Van Halen's brown M&M clause in their contracts. They demanded a bowl of M&Ms with the brown ones removed and no brown M&Ms in the backstage area. Then, when they turn up, they can immediately tell if their contracts were being read in detail and if they found any brown M&Ms, then they'd assume that not all the stage safety requirements (they had very heavy kit) were being adhered to and they'd just cancel the gig.

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Tom_77 replied to hawkinspeter | 5 months ago
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Clem Fandango replied to Tom_77 | 5 months ago
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I had to beat him to death with his own shoes...

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S13SFC | 5 months ago
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I've seen some batshit driving and riding in my time but a BMX on the M6 between J14-J15 riding up along the central reservation (concrete barriers), just outside Lane 4!!

The gap between the barrier and traffic is about 1m.

All I can say is I don't know how the hell he got onto lane 4 or how the hell he wasn't already dead.

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Hirsute replied to S13SFC | 5 months ago
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Hopped off a bridge in the style of Danny Macaskill

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S13SFC replied to Hirsute | 5 months ago
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Some skills not to be dead that's f'sure.

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mitsky | 5 months ago
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About the newest clip from Jeremy Vine.

If anyone is questioning whether he (JV) was making too much of it or if the driver was in the wrong, maybe he can do a motor vehicle overlay like CycleGaz has done recently to some clips.

Then ask if the same manouver by the delivery driver would be acceptable if it was towards a motorist rather than a cyclist...
(I'm not holding my breath.)

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Steve K replied to mitsky | 5 months ago
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I've made the mistake of getting involved in that twitter thread.  Apparently, every driver would have stopped to let the van go and even if they didn't, none of them would have got upset if the van had turned in front of them anyway.

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mark1a replied to Steve K | 5 months ago
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Steve K wrote:

I've made the mistake of getting involved in that twitter thread being on Twitter.

FTFY

 

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Steve K replied to mark1a | 5 months ago
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mark1a wrote:

Steve K wrote:

I've made the mistake of getting involved in that twitter thread being on Twitter.

FTFY

 

GPWM

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Flintshire Boy replied to Steve K | 5 months ago
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WTFDYA'sM?

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Bradshsi replied to mitsky | 5 months ago
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Delivery driver was in the wrong to be sure. I see similar poor quality unaware driving every day on Byres road in Glasgow.

My response would be the same whether I am driving or cycling. I would slow down and defuse the situation.

Mr Vine took a minor drama of bad driving and turned it into a crisis. He'd probably benefit from watching Ashley Neil's YouTube channel on how to handle such situations.

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mitsky replied to Bradshsi | 5 months ago
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@Bradshi

So we can't complain about an example of bad driving that would earn the driver at least a minor fault if not straight fail on a driving test?

If we tolerate this, what next?
Further examples of even worse driving?
When would it end? Where do we draw the line?
Why bother with a driving test at all?

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eburtthebike replied to mitsky | 5 months ago
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What if the bike was replaced by a car, and the van by a bicycle?

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NOtotheEU replied to eburtthebike | 5 months ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

What if the bike was replaced by a car, and the van by a bicycle?

Good point. I think the cyclist would be

1. not seen and hit

2. seen and hit anyway

3. seen and missed by inches as punishment

3. seen and not hit but physically or verbally abused

4. seen and not hit but become a story of dangerous cycling that the driver tells all their friends for months

5. seen and not hit but featured on a youtube video about how dangerous cyclists are.

The car driver would be . . . . not injured or endangered in any way of course (until the next junction when a phone using wankpanzer driver does the same thing and puts them in hospital, where they will regail the nurses with stories of the dangerous cyclist they met earlier that day).

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Steve K | 5 months ago
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I just watched, on x/twitter, a short clip of the GMB piece with Mike and Freeman.  Even by his own standards, I thought Freeman was awful.  He pretty much said mobile phone use wasn't dangerous.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1700039176161255449

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brooksby replied to Steve K | 5 months ago
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"I see that point of view, and I dismiss it out of hand" laugh

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