Driver in America arrested for using vehicle as deadly weapon after trying to run cyclist off road

swldxer wrote:

Here is the correct term.

*Exept when the mirrors aren't mounted on the doors. Then they are wing mirrors, a-post mirrors or chassis mirrors**

**And when they are apparently mounted on the doors it is important to understand whether they are actually mounted on the doors, or mounted on the window frame. If the latter they are Window mirrors***

***They may be mounted on mirror mounting block attached in corner union of the door and window frame. In which case they are window-door-corner- union-mirror-mounting-block-mirrors****

****but if you say wing mirror everyone knows what you mean.

If you say road tax, everyone knows what you mean.

swldxer wrote:

If you say road tax, everyone knows what you mean.

Qe? What's that?

Captain Badger wrote:

swldxer wrote:

If you say road tax, everyone knows what you mean.

Qe? What's that?

Isn't it where they give lots of made up money to the banks to stop them collapsing?

mdavidford wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

swldxer wrote:

If you say road tax, everyone knows what you mean.

Qe? What's that?

Isn't it where they give lots of made up money to the banks to stop them collapsing?

Nah, it's the quiz show hosted by Sandi Toksvig (and previously by Stephen Fry)

Well Angle is white so was probably safe....

Unfortunately not. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-86-carrying-fake-or-toy-guns-killed-...

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Well Angle is white so was probably safe....

Safer

alchemilla wrote:

Only in America could the gun be considered as not a weapon, and of no consequence.

i suspect most items are considered benign until intent of use transforms them. a rock isn't a weapon until you use it as one.

the infamous grouse wrote:

alchemilla wrote:

Only in America could the gun be considered as not a weapon, and of no consequence.

i suspect most items are considered benign until intent of use transforms them. a rock isn't a weapon until you use it as one.

A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

hawkinspeter wrote:

the infamous grouse wrote:

alchemilla wrote:

Only in America could the gun be considered as not a weapon, and of no consequence.

i suspect most items are considered benign until intent of use transforms them. a rock isn't a weapon until you use it as one.

A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

correct, but until the gun is unholstered and aimed at someone, it isn't being used as a deadly weapon.

Well, to play devil's advocate, it'd be possible to reveal a holstered gun and use that as a threat in which case it would be the threat of using a deadly weapon. Most things don't change their purpose just because it's not in use at that particular moment in time. A chair is still a chair even if no-one is sat in it.

I could imagine getting stopped by the police for carrying a knife and arguing that you weren't actually stabbing anyone, so it's not a deadly weapon.

hawkinspeter wrote:

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A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

Not wishing to be a pedant, but the rocks at Stonehenge weren't designed either. Rather the Stones at Stonehenge were designed and then made of rock. I believe the masons took the design, looked at the rocks and knocked the bits off that didn't look like a Stone.

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

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A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

Not wishing to be a pedant, but the rocks at Stonehenge weren't designed either. Rather the Stones at Stonehenge were designed and then made of rock. I believe the masons took the design, looked at the rocks and knocked the bits off that didn't look like a Stone.

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'll see your pedantry and raise you.

Design: to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully.

I submit to the court of readers that the Stonehenge rocks where planned and skillfully fashioned into their current shapes and positions.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

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A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

Not wishing to be a pedant, but the rocks at Stonehenge weren't designed either. Rather the Stones at Stonehenge were designed and then made of rock. I believe the masons took the design, looked at the rocks and knocked the bits off that didn't look like a Stone.

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'll see your pedantry and raise you.

Design: to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully.

I submit to the court of readers that the Stonehenge rocks where planned and skillfully fashioned into their current shapes and positions.

Very good sir, but there is one fatal flaw in your premise. The Stone Henge rocks are not rocks. They are Stones. The material they are made of is rock (sarsen and bluejohn typically) but they are Stones.

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

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A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

Not wishing to be a pedant, but the rocks at Stonehenge weren't designed either. Rather the Stones at Stonehenge were designed and then made of rock. I believe the masons took the design, looked at the rocks and knocked the bits off that didn't look like a Stone.

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'll see your pedantry and raise you.

Design: to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully.

I submit to the court of readers that the Stonehenge rocks where planned and skillfully fashioned into their current shapes and positions.

Very good sir, but there is one fatal flaw in your premise. The Stone Henge rocks are not rocks. They are Stones. The material they are made of is rock (sarsen and bluejohn typically) but they are Stones.

Dagnammit! Foiled again

hawkinspeter wrote:

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Dagnammit! Foiled again

Bwahahaha!

hawkinspeter wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

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A rock isn't designed, though (excluding Stonehenge etc). A gun is specifically designed as a weapon foremost and though there are exeptions such as flare guns and starter pistols, the vast majority of guns can only be used sensibly as weapons.

Not wishing to be a pedant, but the rocks at Stonehenge weren't designed either. Rather the Stones at Stonehenge were designed and then made of rock. I believe the masons took the design, looked at the rocks and knocked the bits off that didn't look like a Stone.

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'll see your pedantry and raise you.

Design: to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully.

I submit to the court of readers that the Stonehenge rocks where planned and skillfully fashioned into their current shapes and positions.

Very good sir, but there is one fatal flaw in your premise. The Stone Henge rocks are not rocks. They are Stones. The material they are made of is rock (sarsen and bluejohn typically) but they are Stones.

Dagnammit! Foiled again

Did you write the size down wrongly...?

The requirements were clearly laid out in the design documents and approved by the committee

Captain Badger wrote:

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

Push it over...?

brooksby wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

Push it over...?

I suppose yes, in a very particular set of circumstances that may be possible. About a third of the overall vertical dimension of the Stone is underground, so you would need a badger to destabilise it first.

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/08/09/1172316.htm

Then you need to get your nemesis to stand on one side of the stone, whilst you use some pretext or other to disappear around the other side. I probably don't need to spell out the next move......

Captain Badger wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

Push it over...?

I suppose yes, in a very particular set of circumstances that may be possible. About a third of the overall vertical dimension of the Stone is underground, so you would need a badger to destabilise it first.

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/08/09/1172316.htm

Then you need to get your nemesis to stand on one side of the stone, whilst you use some pretext or other to disappear around the other side. I probably don't need to spell out the next move......

Adult badgers, which can be nearly a metre in length, have no natural enemies in the U.K. and have powerful jaws capable of giving nasty bites. The biggest killer of adult badgers is road traffic.

Captain Badger wrote:

Adult badgers, which can be nearly a metre in length, have no natural enemies in the U.K. and have powerful jaws capable of giving nasty bites. The biggest killer of adult badgers is road traffic.

So apart from greater length and missing jaws, cyclists and badgers are the same.

Captain Badger wrote:

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'm sure Wil-e-coyote would give it a go

wycombewheeler wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

I'd like to see someone use one as a weapon though....

I'm sure Wil-e-coyote would give it a go

He once asked me whether painting a tunnel on it might work.....

hawkinspeter wrote:

A rock isn't designed, though

You're telling me those letters get all the way through it by accident?