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Cyclist slams “lazy bastards” who use North Wales beauty spot as “rubbish bin”

Simon Roxburgh hits out at people littering Great Orme with fast food wrappers and other litter

A cyclist has taken to Twitter to tell “lazy bastards” not to use a North Wales beauty spot as a “rubbish bin.”

Simon Roxburgh, a founder member and current chairman of the GOG (Great Orme Goats) Triathlon Club, took to the social network to vent his anger due to the amount of roadside rubbish he discovered on a training ride last week.

“Here I am, riding up the Orme, and I’m seething,” he said in a video he tweeted.

“Riding up here, a mile and a half, I’ve passed McDonald’s wrappers, Costa’s wrappers, Red Bull cans, lager cans, wet wipes … this is a mile and a half of a National Park.

“It’s the Great Orme, it’s beautiful, and we’re lucky to have it, and people are treating it like their own rubbish bin.

“It’s dead simple, right?,” he continued. “If you can buy that shit, and put it in your car to eat it or drink it, you can fucking take it home.

“So stop making our country a mess and bloody tidy up, you lazy bastards,” he added.

The video, shot while the 46-year-old was preparing for a 24-hour charity challenge his triathlon club undertook yesterday in support of the Great Orme Goat Challenge for St David’s Hospice with clubmates helping clear up the rubbish beforehand, has been watched online more than 25,000 times.

The peninsula near Llandudno, with its limestone and dolomite cliffs, is a Site of Special Scientific Interest and home to a number of species of rare fauna and flora, including the horseshoe bat and a 200-strong colony of Kashmir goats.

There are also seabird colonies there, with species including as guillemots, kittiwakes and razorbills.

After his Twitter post went viral, Mr Roxburgh, who lives in Penrhyn Bay, told the Daily Post: “With its goats and spectacular views the Great Orme one of the great icons of Llandudno.

“It’s so sad people treat it this way. I’m afraid it was a bit of a rant but I was seething.

“I was so angry that people come to this beautiful part of the world and can’t be bothered to take their rubbish home with them.”

He continued: “I get angry so others don’t have to. Littering is endemic at the moment, that’s the truth of the matter.

“People are driving along roads and just chucking this stuff out the car window.

“These are people who think it’s the state’s job to clean up after them, that it’s someone else’s responsibility and not their own,” he added.

Ahead of the weekend, he also retweeted this anti-littering message from the Welsh Government.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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growingvegtables | 3 years ago
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I'll just drop this in .   https://www.trashfreetrails.org 

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Sriracha replied to growingvegtables | 3 years ago
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Saw that in the Graun today, and yes, it is relevant to cycling:
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/sep/02/time-for-uk-nature-lovers...

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Cargobike | 3 years ago
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Hmmm......

I used to live in Llandudno and the locals were the laziest bastards you've ever met.

Expected everything for nothing and knew every scam in the book. Unfortunately, none of this surprises me in the slightest, the whole peninsula is geared up for cars, you can't even legally ride on the promenade. The Mostyn family who basically own Llandudno are living so far in the past with their addiction to cars and the blight that they create I have very little sympathy for the poor fools who choose to live there.

Beautiful place, spoilt by the backwards twats who live there.

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NPlus1Bikelights | 3 years ago
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Can we get some positive news reporting to balance the site's glut of depresssing stuff, XR Norwich did a mini Crit Mass if you need a pointer, or more stuff from the InternationElles?

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hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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I'd like to see a scheme whereby branded litter (e.g. McDonald's cartons) is charged back to the retailer for clean up charges. Do occasional counts of rubbish collected in different areas and then slap a tax on the offending companies. Hopefully that'll provide an incentive for companies to reduce their packaging or educate their customers.

Or, rather than a tax, how about a mandated deposit/return charge on packaging? If Tescos wants to package apples in plastic wrap, put an extra 10p on the price and anyone returning empty Tesco packaging gets 10p paid to them. That'd encourage kids (or anyone with a lot of time on their hands) to go round and pick up litter for cash which would solve a problem and also hopefully induce an awareness into kids about littering.

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markieteeee replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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I'd back this scheme too. I'll add that this also happens in urban areas.  It was obvious when fast food places had begun to reopen after lockdown when litter started appearing all over my local park. Suddenly people enjoying their one hour in a green space was spoiled by debris everywhere. I realise that city parks are more likely to have people picking up litter than large areas of wild countryside, but the same principle would be welcome. 

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RoubaixCube replied to markieteeee | 3 years ago
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We have this recycling scheme in Hong Kong (and i think some other Asian countries too) where people collect recyclables every week for some guy from the local waste facility who rolls up in a big van and weighs every box or bag of stuff he gets and pays the people a few dollars baised on the total weight of their salvage.

Everybody does it, Its just an extra few dollars in the coffer every week or so.

Now if McD's here could run a similar scheme where you can earn points towards items off their menu if you return their trash to them, Im sure more people would be picking up their litter.

If a big company like Mc'Ds are willing to run the scheme, im sure the other major fast food companies will follow. its good P.R for Mc Ds as they are turning their customers into litter pickers and doing something positive for the communities their respective branches serve.

Mc D's always like to soapbox about how they are going green with using all recycled packaging -- even going as recycling their oil from their fryers for use with their delivery lorrys.

why not take a step further?

Though im sure a scheme like that would be open for abuse. I remember there was was an article last year where the police made a traffic stop on a motorway somewhere and in the boot of the drivers car was a massive stack of fake counterfeit stickers that are used to trade for free coffees at Mc D's. I think people have even tried to cheat the Mc D's seasonal monopoly scheme a few times too...

Youre never going to stop some individuals from trying to game the system. But there are more honest people in the world than the crafty ones.

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mdavidford replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

Hopefully that'll provide an incentive for companies to reduce their packaging or educate their customers.

Or just remove the branding...

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Captain Badger replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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Don't think that'd happen. Companies are too attached to brand - in many cases it's all they've got to sell cos their product is so sh1t. Think of the fuss that the tobacco companies make about removing branding on their "product".

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Mungecrundle | 3 years ago
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About 10 minutes before I took this picture 31 people from 5 families used this area for a picnic lunch. Apart from a few crumbs we left it how we found it.

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iandusud | 3 years ago
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I totally sympathise with this rant. I love getting out of built up areas to enjoy the beauty of our countryside and I regularly see it being treated as a rubbish dump. What do the people who throw their rubbish on the ground think is going to happen to it? I suppose that question is irrelevant as they almost certainly don't think, but they do choose not to think. I was brought up to never drop litter and so were my children. To me it is something unthinkable. Do we need to have better public education on this matter? I remember the "Don't be a litter-lout" campaign from my childhood, so this clearly isn't a new issue but is has become exacerbated by the modern curse of fast-food. 

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jasecd | 3 years ago
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Hmm, while this story isn't without merit but it's not really about cycling.

I've read this site for years but I'm rapidly losing interest - there are so many articles that seemed designed purely to inflame and are often only vaguely related to cycling. It seems to be mostly clickbait or recycled press releases now.

I actually think that the overall perspective is fairly negative and there's not much reporting on the beauty and fun of riding a bike - I feel that I'm enjoying cycling less and this kind of narrative is a factor. 

I know close passes, driver behaviour, crap infrastructure and media bias are all real problems, but I don't need to read about every gammon spewing bile on twitter. Or about unrelated issues conflated into cycling. Perhaps offer some solutions to the real issues with cycling in Britain rather than just complaining.

Despite all the bullshit cycling is still amazing, riding a bike is bloody good fun and I'll do it until I can't do it anymore.

For the record I also hate littering.

 

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eburtthebike replied to jasecd | 3 years ago
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jasecd wrote:

Hmm, while this story isn't without merit but it's not really about cycling.

I think it's highly relevant.  The joys of cycling in the countryside are pretty much ruined if it's covered in rubbish.

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Cycloid replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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Totally agree - Mark Twain said, "the British countryside is so pretty it should be put away at night". It is a national treasure and cycling is one of the best ways to enjoy it.

If we can't look after it I may as well set my turbo up on a landfil site

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Rik Mayals unde... replied to Cycloid | 3 years ago
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It is pretty, but sadly pretty full of fuckwits. 

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jasecd replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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Well your mileage may vary but it's tangentially related not directly.

My comment was based on the volume of similar stories on road.cc which are negative in tone. Riding a bike is a positive thing in many ways - I'd like to see more of that.

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Rik Mayals unde... replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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I agree totally. I cycle on some of the quietest narrow lanes in Lancashire, North Yorkshire and Cumbria. The litter I see is depressing. Some roads are barely wide enough for a car, I certainly wouldn't take my car down them, yet the usual suspects are there. Cigarette packets, cans, crisp packets and thos blasted silver canisters. 

I think, for takeaway food from drive thru outlets, the car registration number should be printed on all packaging, and if found dumped, the registered owner should be hit with a large fine, perhaps £1000, better than a £30 fixed penalty. 

I also see far too many energy gel wrappers on the road, interestingly they are always SIS gels for some reason.

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wtjs replied to Rik Mayals underpants | 3 years ago
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 I cycle on some of the quietest narrow lanes in Lancashire, North Yorkshire and Cumbria. The litter I see is depressing. Some roads are barely wide enough for a car, I certainly wouldn't take my car down them, yet the usual suspects are there.

So do I, and I agree. On the 'summit of the Trough of Bowland' this weekend there was a pile of dumped house plaster. There is no cure for people as appalling as this except prosecution, which is going to be difficult in the more remote areas.

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Rome73 | 3 years ago
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Ormeggio (Latin derivitive) is the Italian word word for mooring / berth. I don't know the area or its history but I guess it has some Roman past. 

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Mungecrundle | 3 years ago
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It would be perfectly possible to print the number plate associated with the drive through pickup order onto all the packaging. The owner could then be reunited with their lost items and a fee charged for the service.

This wouldn't work for people who actually go the effort of getting out of their cars to wobble into the fast food establishment to order and collect, but I suspect we are mostly talking about the morbidly lazy when it comes to eating in the car and chucking the wrappers.

Alternatively, if electric car windows were banned we might see less litter dumping given the physical effort involved in using an old fashioned window winder.

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ChadCapote | 3 years ago
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Pointless to go on a nature trek/ride/travel when you can't respect nature. It takes just a few seconds extra and some common sense to put the trash in one's bag. 

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eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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I'm sure Matthew Paris will be along soon to blame cyclists.  And then to threaten their lives by stringing wire across cycle routes.  And after that to apologise, but only for not understanding that cyclists don't have a sense of humour.

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Rick_Rude | 3 years ago
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Sadly, since the UK scum who usually go abroad to ruin other countries can't this year.....  they are ruining their own country.

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Awavey | 3 years ago
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saw a load of paint tins fly tipped on one of my rides so far this weekend  2

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Jules59 replied to Awavey | 3 years ago
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I often stop on my rides to take photos of fly tipping etc and post them to "fix my street" app

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ktache replied to Jules59 | 3 years ago
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I reported some fly tipping that been dumped on the end of my hour ride, it was easy enough, but it took a time to get removed, was concrete corrigated tile that might have had asbestos in it.  Of course if it was left too long then other things start getting left there.  A matress and some car tyres had been added before it was all taken away.

Bloody cyclists...

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Captain Badger replied to ktache | 3 years ago
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LOL, yet another reason why cycling's impractical

"I'd like to see you transport a mattress, old boiler, used tyres, asbestos sheet and a fridge and wardrobe to the countryside on a bike to fly tip it. Nah mate, I'll stick to my Transit for every journey! Bloody tree huggers..."

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Cycloid | 3 years ago
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The used nappies, pizza boxes, strong lager cans... that I see on the Cheshire lanes could have been left by cyclists, but I suspect that antisocial motorists are the culprits, probably the same ones that think cyclists should pay road tax and ride in the gutter.

A twat is a twat is a twat

It is an offense to throw anything from a movinge vehicle

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wtjs | 3 years ago
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These people are unthinking scum- the only way to get through to them is undercover officials and on-the-spot fines, which double if they're not paid 'on-the-spot'. I suspect we dont have the laws for that.

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Hirsute | 3 years ago
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Not a cyclist then (rule 42). Although what has riding a bike got to do with the subject ?

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