105 is often considered to be the working cyclist’s groupset thanks to a reputation of being reliable and more attainable than its big brothers Dura-Ace and Ultegra. Well, this year it’s 40 years old and to celebrate there’s a new generation R7100... but unfortunately for some, mechanical shifting and rim brakes aren’t invited to the party.
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The highly anticipated Shimano 105 R7100 groupset brings Di2 (Digital Integrated Intelligence) performance to the 105 line for the first time. There’s also 12-speed, wireless shifting and a price tag of £1,730.
Here are the main changes in bullet-point format:
- Third-tier groupset moves from 11-speed to 12-speed
- It’s available with Di2 (electronic shifting) only
- No rim brake model
- Shifters can communicate wirelessly with the rest of the system (disc brake version only)
- Features full-carbon tubeless disc brake wheels
Drivetrain
Just as expected 105 has joined the 12-speed club, but retains the smallest size cassette cog of 11T which means that it is backwards compatible with current 11-speed freehub equipped wheels.
By moving to a 12-speed cassette, Shimano says it has managed to provide both the high and low gearing that riders want, along with an intelligent progression of gear steps in between.
The new crankset is available in 50-34 and 52-36 varieties, features Hollowtech ii technology and is available in 165, 170, 172.5 and 175mm crank lengths. It is worth noting that Shimano says the 52-36 chainset will not be available immediately, but doesn’t specify what sort of time scale we’re looking at.
Those chainsets are paired to just two cassette options, one of which is available now, that being an 11-34T. There will also be an 11-36T option coming at a later date to provide a sub-1:1 gear combination for really steep slopes.
The rear derailleur has a longer cage than on the more expensive models to cope with the larger range cassettes, and just like on those models this is where the brains of the system are housed. It’s also here that you will find the battery charging point as well as the wireless connection to Shimano’s STI shifters and other third-party devices (replacing the EW-WU111 wireless unit on previous-generation Di2).
> Shimano launches 12-speed Ultegra R8100 groupset
A reminder that both the front and the rear derailleur has a wired connection to the battery which we expect to last about 1,000km (625 miles) between charges.
The front derailleur has a larger body than on the current generation Dura-Ace or Ultegra groupsets, and instead looks more like the previous generation R8000/R9100 design. This is likely to reduce costs, but we don't know for sure.
Shifters
The main news here is that the shifters can be set up wireless just like we’ve seen on other Shimano groupsets. This is a hybrid system, featuring a wireless cockpit paired with a wired connection between the single seat-tube-stored battery and the front and rear derailleurs. As expected, the R7100 system can be customised via Shimano’s E-TUBE PROJECT App on your smartphone, where you can alter the number of shifts per button actuation and utilise the Synchronised and Semi-Synchro shifting functionality.
The new shifters look to be a similar shape to the current generation Dura-Ace and Ultegra varieties, with Shimano stating the new Shimano 105 dual control levers “feature unparalleled ergonomics and refinements following pro rider feedback, where a raised hood peak and new lever shape enhance comfort and control in every riding position.”
Braking is also claimed to be improved thanks to a lighter, smoother lever action and expanded braking control area.
The levers utilise Shimano’s proprietary wireless integrated circuit that features high–security, fast processing speed and low power consumption. Shimano says that compared to other wireless platforms this gives users a significant decrease in interference probability, faster shift speeds and longer battery life. There are no published figures on battery life as of yet, but we do know that the shifters are powered by coin-style CR1632 batteries. We imagine the stats will be similar to Ultegra, which are expected to last 18 months to two years with typical use.
Brakes
This section can be a lot shorter than usual as there’s just one option, and that’s hydraulic disc brakes. I’m sure the number of comments on this will make up for it…
Once again there are some clear similarities between these and the more expensive Dura-Ace and Ultegra options, and Shimano says that it has a “revamped braking system that’s quieter, easier to maintain, and feels more controlled and powerful.” These also feature the 10% wider pad-to-rotor clearance to reduce the chances of rubbing and unwanted noise. Shimano says that home mechanics will also appreciate an improved and user-friendly bleed process that can be performed without removing the calliper from the frame.
Wheels
The theme of cheaper trickle-down technology continues with the new RS710 wheels, which bring carbon down to 105 level for the first time. There are two new wheelsets, those being the C32 designed for climbing and the C46 for all-around use. Both non-series wheels share some clear similarities with the C36 and C50 Dura-Ace and Ultegra wheel options, and are both 11 and 12-speed compatible and tubeless-ready.
The C32 features a 32mm rim height, 21mm internal rim width and a claimed weight of 1,502g.
The C46 is 46mm deep, has a 21mm internal rim width and a claimed weight of 1,610g.
Weights (Grams)
Here’s a breakdown of individual component weights compared to the more expensive Ultegra R8100 groupset, and Sram’s (quite literally) Rival groupset. (Groupsets are disc brake and electronic shifting versions)
>Review: Sram Rival Etap AXS groupset
Pricing and Availability
Groupset Component |
Shimano R7100 (105) |
Shimano R8100 (Ultegra) |
Sram Rival AXS HRD |
Rear derailleur |
302 |
262 |
366 |
Front derailleur |
142 |
116 |
182 |
Cassette (Smallest) |
361 |
297 |
282 |
Chain |
252 |
252 |
266 |
Crankset (170mm) |
766 |
711 |
844 |
Bottom bracket |
Not specified |
66 |
Not specified |
Shifter (pair) |
423 |
391 |
845 |
Brake calliper |
282 |
282 |
Inc w/ shifter |
Brake hose |
110 |
60 |
Inc w/ shifter |
Rotor (pair) |
286 |
212 |
314 |
Cable |
19 |
19 |
N/A |
Battery |
53 |
53 |
On mechs |
Total |
2,995g |
2,716g |
3,097g |
Here are the prices for Shimano 105 R7100 individual components:
Groupset Component |
Price (GBP) |
R7100 double chainset |
£169.99 |
RS520 double chainset |
£119.99 |
Cassette (11-34T) |
£69.99 |
Cassette (11-36T) *Available later |
£84.99 |
Front derailleur |
£149.99 |
Rear derailleur |
£274.99 |
STI shifters & brake set |
£349.99 |
SM-RT64 Deore rotors (per unit) |
£26.99 |
Front wheel (C32 or C46) |
£479.99 |
Rear wheel (C32 or C46) |
£519.99 |
E-Tube individual wires |
From £24.99 |
E-Tube BB junction |
From £20.99 |
Battery |
£174.99 |
Charging cable |
£44.99 |
Complete groupset |
£1,730 |
The groupset price including RT64 brake rotors, CNM7100 chain with E-tube battery and wires will set you back £1,730, which is a £669 or ~28% saving compared to the 12-speed Ultegra R8100 groupset. That has an RRP of £2,399 and doesn’t include brake rotors.
Shimano says the groupset is available to purchase right now, however, we do expect this to be in limited numbers.
www.bike.shimano.com
Are you sad to see the demise of rim brakes or mechanical groupsets? Let us know in the comments as well as your feelings on the new groupset…
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I am a useless mechanic, so this could be nonsense to rip me off, but I was told that even 7000 was not (fully) backwards compatible with 5800. When I needed new chainrings on my 5800 but only 7000 was available, my LBS told me I needed to upgrade the front mech to 7000 as well.
AFAIK 5800 & 7000 are interchangable, I replaced a front mech on my mate's bike the other day, couldn't get 5800 so 7000 went on instead, no problem at all. One physical difference is that 5800 has a really long reach cable pull and is hard to get adjusted, whereas 7000 is much shorter with a tensioner built in to it.
The 7000 chainrings are offset by 3mm to increase space for wider tyres and optimise chainline for disc frames. Front mech is also modified to take account of this. In the real world though it's all interchangeable - 5800/4700/7000/8000/9000 all use the same cable pull. I run a mix of 5800/7000 and 4700 bits on my bikes
The 7000 front mech design actually debuted in a revised mech for 5800 - FD5801-B - https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/105-5800/FD-5801-B.html because there were issues with the long arm design and the current fashion for ever wider tyres. This new style mech is pretty good but for experienced mechanics required a different approach to setting limit and indexing
Yes - looking at the Shimano compatability charts, FD-5801 works with the R7000 chainring, but I had the earlier FD-5800. As you say, it may have been fine in the real world.
RIP, the "people's groupset" :((((
Except that it's continuing in 11 speed.
Since retail for Rival AXS is 1470 (add 100 for a PM, subtract 100 for online prices) thats making 105 DI2 look a bit expensive. £150 more minimum.
Its going to make a 105 equipped bike close to £3k though. 2.5k even for the big box shifters.
Its not stated but I presume 7000 mechanical will continue quietly for a while - just like 8000 mechanical is.
The heading of the table refers to Ultegra, but I assume it means this new 12 speed 105.
I don't know where they get the total in the table from. It doesn't add up in any combination I can work out.
I think if you take the cost of the RS520 chain set and the 11-36 cassette from the total, assume 2 Di2 wires, 2 brake rotors (and don't count the wheels) you get just over £1339 MSRP for the 105 Di2, without chain. The price is not listed in the table for the chain. I've left the junction box in the total, but I'm not sure you need it (you don't on 9200).
So 105 Di2 around £1340 - £1360 MSRP roughly?
You need 2 shifters / brakes so add another £350
£1,730 is the price if you buy as a whole groupset at rrp: https://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-groupsets/shimano-105-di2-disc-12-s...
As a Tiagra 4700 user I'm delighted that I can now claim to be running Shimano's top tier mechanical groupset.
The reality is now that modern Tiagra is as good as 105 was 10 years ago, so like with car manufacturers, Shimano have pushed up the quality of each product range, so some pride-swallowing is required to accept that perhaps the level down is not an unreasonable place to be.
I wouldn't be unhappy with Tiagra and whereas 10 speed 105 was pretty bullet proof (aside from gear cable eating shifters) moving to 11 speed has meant that I've lost longevity and reliability in the chain, having poorer life and had a couple of chain issues that I never had on 10 speed.
10 years ago, I wouldn't have touched Sora which was downright nasty, but even Claris is respectable now.
Yep, they've all got internal routing now (although I have to say that my externally routed 4600 bike has the best shifting I've ever experienced this side of Di2) so aesthetically they look the part. Chainrings very similar too, certainly not like the abomination that was Tiagra 4600!
Pick your speed, pick your maximum cog size, pick your budget. They're all brilliant and way ahead of groups even from 5 years ago.
My only issue with the old 4600 was that my Kinesis T2 frame required long drop brakes and the levers had a very low pivot point. The combination of the non-series Shimano brakes and lever design meant that the leverage was very poor and it was hard to apply decent levels of braking.
The external gear cable exit from ths shifter meant that the shifters didn't eat cables.
My GRX 600 on my gravel/winter bike is about to munch its cable in the hood so needs replacing - I'm not going to spend £14 on an official polymer coated Shimano cable every 6 months of use - remind me about how cheap mechanical is to run again!
Now, this is not exactly bringing electric gears to the masses is it? More like forcing the masses into premium price purchases via a lack of alternative.
Sad times.
Apart from Tiagra rim brake groupsets which are less than half the price (if you exclude wheels from the 105) and with a negligible weight difference. I have Tiagra on my commuter and honestly, if I was forced to swap the Ultegra Di2 groupset on my road bike for it I wouldn't be that bothered, the quality is that good. Good alternatives are available as long as you don't care about the name/number on the parts.
The thing is, Shimano will have done their homework (& probably got hold of Rival sales figures too) and worked out that retailers want it and more than enough riders buying new bikes do too. Shimano doesn't do big gambles when there's no reason to. I ride mechanical Ultegra now. On holiday rentals I often ride Di2. I'm very happy with mechanical. I love Di2. There's the thing - when I get a new bike, electronic shifting will be on my priority list.
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