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Cyclist disappointed at police caution for BMX rider who kicked him off bike in rush hour traffic

Police track down Raphael Carrondo's attacker after video publicised...

A cyclist kicked off his bike by a another rider on a busy London street has expressed his disappointment that his assailant only received a caution.

Raphael Carrondo was attacked as he rode along London's Victoria Embankment on August 6. He only sustained cuts and bruises, but could easily have ended up under a coach.

He posted his bike cam video of the attack on YouTube:

After he complained to the Evening Standard that police did not seem to be taking the case seriously, the Met tracked down the other rider.

He told the Standard's Rachel Blundy: "Shortly after the story went out and the YouTube clip went viral the police started investigating. They found the person. A member of the public came forward and said they recognised the rider. They asked him to come in for an interview and he was cautioned afterwards.

"I was expecting a little bit more than a caution but if that is what the police think should be done then that is ok. I was hoping he might have to do some community work."

The 32-year-old sales and marketing consultant, originally from Brazil, previously said he had posted the video when police told him they could not afford the resources to track down the BMXer if he didn't know who he was.

He said: "The next day I say, 'If the police can't do anything, I can.' This is something that probably happens every day, that kid probably did something to someone else. With social media as it is today we can find someone doing the wrong thing."

Carrondo was shocked at the level of abuse he was subjected to after posting the video.

He said: "What I wasn't expecting was that when I put it online, that the wrong became me. Everybody was trying to justify why the kid would react like this."

Despite the online abuse and the incident itself, Carrondo has carried on riding.

He said: "I never stopped - I have kept cycling. I had to because it is how I commute to work."

The Metropolitan Police said they had contacted Mr Carrondo after watching footage of the attack.

A spokesman said: "In late October, when officers from the Roads and Transport Policing Command's Cycle Task Force became aware of the footage of the incident on 6 August, they contacted the victim and launched an investigation.

"On 11 November a 19-year-old man was arrested at his home address in south London, in connection with the investigation. He was later bailed pending further enquiries.

"On 24 November the 19-year-old man accepted a caution for common assault."

John has been writing about bikes and cycling for over 30 years since discovering that people were mug enough to pay him for it rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work.

He was heavily involved in the mountain bike boom of the late 1980s as a racer, team manager and race promoter, and that led to writing for Mountain Biking UK magazine shortly after its inception. He got the gig by phoning up the editor and telling him the magazine was rubbish and he could do better. Rather than telling him to get lost, MBUK editor Tym Manley called John’s bluff and the rest is history.

Since then he has worked on MTB Pro magazine and was editor of Maximum Mountain Bike and Australian Mountain Bike magazines, before switching to the web in 2000 to work for CyclingNews.com. Along with road.cc founder Tony Farrelly, John was on the launch team for BikeRadar.com and subsequently became editor in chief of Future Publishing’s group of cycling magazines and websites, including Cycling Plus, MBUK, What Mountain Bike and Procycling.

John has also written for Cyclist magazine, edited the BikeMagic website and was founding editor of TotalWomensCycling.com before handing over to someone far more representative of the site's main audience.

He joined road.cc in 2013. He lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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jacknorell replied to P3t3 | 10 years ago
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P3t3 wrote:

Just because the BMX rider made a "mistake" (or whatever you want to call it, I agree it was a poorly thought out move) coming down the left and side doesn't mean that the guy making the film can't adjust his line and make allowances.

Yes, he *could* adjust. That doesn't mean he has *any* obligation to do so, for whatever reason.

Likely, given the traffic on the right-hand lane, it didn't seem safe to do so.

Alternatively, Carrondo was appropriately paying attention to the right-hand lane in anticipation of going around the bus in front of him.

There's actually no reason for him to pay any particular attention to his left, as no traffic would normally come from there *and into his path of travel*, as it's in fact not a legal move...

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oozaveared replied to jacknorell | 10 years ago
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jacknorell wrote:
P3t3 wrote:

Just because the BMX rider made a "mistake" (or whatever you want to call it, I agree it was a poorly thought out move) coming down the left and side doesn't mean that the guy making the film can't adjust his line and make allowances.

Yes, he *could* adjust. That doesn't mean he has *any* obligation to do so, for whatever reason.

and there you go right there. could have been a nice guy and let the bmxer get past the bus but stood on his rights. Kept his line "I'm alright jack".

And everyday that's what makes the roads more unpleasant. A bit or courtesy doesn't hurt anyone. Matthew 7:12

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Ush replied to oozaveared | 10 years ago
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oozaveared wrote:

and there you go right there. could have been a nice guy and let the bmxer get past the bus but stood on his rights. Kept his line "I'm alright jack".

And everyday that's what makes the roads more unpleasant. A bit or courtesy doesn't hurt anyone. Matthew 7:12

Pretty surprised to see you ignoring the possibility that the man assaulted did not deliberately squeeze the bmxer. In the text in the video it explicitly claims that he was shoulder-checking to the right, ironically to make sure that he was not pulling out into traffic.

Accusing the man kicked off his bicycle of not being "nice" is unsupported.

I always wonder at the amount of victim blaming that goes on in any of these cases. I can only guess that it is a way of reassuring the commenter that it could not possibly happen to themself.

Let's hope you're not kicked off your bicycle by someone who's temporarily on a BMX while their Honda Civic is in the shop getting a spoiler installed. You might find it galling that you're assumed to have brought it on yourself by not being nice.

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Chuck replied to P3t3 | 10 years ago
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See my next paragraph for some of my further thoughts on the matter, you may see life as a series of black/white yes/no "no excuses" situations but I don't.

I sure don't see life as a series of black and white events, and any "cutting up" shown in the video is actually a pretty good example of that.

But the guy on the BMX kicked someone's front wheel out from under them in response for a few seconds inconvenience. And yes, my view of people that think like that is pretty black and white.

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oozaveared replied to P3t3 | 10 years ago
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Chuck wrote:

Are you serious? Because this reads like you think that kicking someone's wheel about is a reasonable response to not getting your way.

The victim didn't cut him up. The guy on the BMX put himself in a crap position and then lashed out when nobody else sorted it out for him. No excuse.

No, you are right it wasn't a reasonable response.

But these things happen all the time, its how life works with selfish irrational creatures like humans. Especially in the young, inexperienced and impetuous like the rider of the BMX. Just because the BMX rider made a "mistake" (or whatever you want to call it, I agree it was a poorly thought out move) coming down the left and side doesn't mean that the guy making the film can't adjust his line and make allowances. I don't know exactly where he was looking as I wasn't there, but I don't believe he had his eyes off the road ahead for as long as he is suggesting in the video. We also don't now what happened in the time before the video clip.

See my next paragraph for some of my further thoughts on the matter, you may see life as a series of black/white yes/no "no excuses" situations but I don't.

I think a caution was probably about right in this case - enough to give the BMX rider something to think about without removing his chances in life. He might, given time start to be more considerate.

Well at least there are two of us arguing that courtesy and bit of respect go a long way to reducing friction on the road. As vulnerable road users I tend to think that's in all of our interests.

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Daks | 10 years ago
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Typical of the Police, "Did you know the murderer?
"No"
"Well in that case we haven't got the
Resources"
A criminal assault took place, isn't that good enough reason?

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oozaveared | 10 years ago
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The result was a caution. I don't condone the assault that was very dangerous, but Carrondo had cut the guy up unmercifully. I guess the guy had the old red mist descend on him.

It's bad enough the motorised traffic cutting us up and not passing with care. Let's not do that to eachother. Then we won't have cyclists knocking each other off bikes.

Caution for assault means he had no record. That's the usual form in altercations like this deemed to be one offs. Fair result.

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Leviathan replied to oozaveared | 10 years ago
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oozaveared wrote:

Carrondo had cut the guy up unmercifully.

Apart from being a lie, this is also not justification. Holding your line when others are being dicks around you is just something you have to do sometimes.

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oozaveared replied to Leviathan | 10 years ago
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bikeboy76 wrote:
oozaveared wrote:

Carrondo had cut the guy up unmercifully.

Apart from being a lie, this is also not justification. Holding your line when others are being dicks around you is just something you have to do sometimes.

Well I don't think it is a lie or I wouldn't have written it. You can clearly see the other cyclist moving out into the road to pass the bus. Corrondo makes no adjustment to his line whatsoever to allow that. In my book that's being bloody minded. If a car did that to you you'd be furious. If you were moving into a lane to pass stationary vehicles and a car neither slowed or moved across in any way but just relentlessly kept it's line to pass the vehicles then you'd be annoyed to say the least.

I don't agree with the assault in any way. But Carrondo was at the least being bloody minded. I can see why the BMXer was miffed.

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Accessibility f... replied to oozaveared | 10 years ago
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oozaveared wrote:

Well I don't think it is a lie or I wouldn't have written it. You can clearly see the other cyclist moving out into the road to pass the bus. Corrondo makes no adjustment to his line whatsoever to allow that.

You idiot. First, the video already states he was looking over his shoulder and didn't see the BMX twat. Second, the BMX twat was overtaking on the inside and attempting to cut Corrondo up.

Third, if I attempted to drive like the BMX rider, I wouldn't be furious, I'd be an idiot - which is also what you are.

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qwerky replied to oozaveared | 10 years ago
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oozaveared wrote:

The result was a caution. I don't condone the assault that was very dangerous, but Carrondo had cut the guy up unmercifully. I guess the guy had the old red mist descend on him.

It's bad enough the motorised traffic cutting us up and not passing with care. Let's not do that to eachother. Then we won't have cyclists knocking each other off bikes.

Caution for assault means he had no record. That's the usual form in altercations like this deemed to be one offs. Fair result.

That's bullshit. There is no excuse for a deliberate and dangerous assault. You're saying that a belief of wrongdoing is justification? Imagine a driver shoving someone off their bike because if some minor infraction, would that be justified? Would you consider it a fair result if you were the victim of a vicious and dangerous assault, and the guy got a caution?

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glynr36 replied to oozaveared | 10 years ago
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oozaveared wrote:

Carrondo had cut the guy up unmercifully. I guess the guy

No. The BMX rider undertook, then when his lane was blocked thought he should be able to push back infront.
Right of way exists for Carronodo, the BMXer needed to give way, you can't just push in like that with a car, so why is a bike any different?

With out knowing the road situation you're not in a position to pass comment that Carrondo should have let him in, and you're also having the benefit of watching the video to look out for the BMXer with out having to concentrate on the road and traffic.

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