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Howard Cox says cyclists who “rule highways” are overtaking drivers in 20mph zones; Motorists drive on pavement to avoid protests; Epidemiologist claims Roglič wore mask at Giro; Supermarket wars in peloton; fake race accounts + more on the live blog

No Giro to keep you going? At least you have this live blog... Adwitiya is on the hot seat to keep you from bonking till the weekend
01 June 2023, 16:39
Nostalgia, ultra... Cannondale shows off a CAAD13 inspired by the classic '97 CAAD3

Design trends come and go, but the classics are always there. 

After yesterday's report of Raleigh's relaunch of the iconic British bicycle Mk2 Chopper after 51 years, we have news that Cannondale Caad13 inspired by another iconic bike, the 1997 Caad3 Team Saeco, and it's glorious.

Evidently, it's got a lot of people excited in the comments. One person wrote: "Please make these colour ways instead of the boring stuff we currently see!!!", while another asked "Where the F can I buy this piece of ART".

And of course there were some who vented about the lack of rim brakes, or the, ahem, Campagnolo groupset.

Here's a nostalgic account by Stu from the road.cc team, which hopefully brings a smile to your face and reminds you of the good ol' days: "My first road bike was a Giant OCR, but when I decided to take things seriously I treated myself to a CAAD 5, in glossy dark red with the Saeco logos in gold, and Cannondale in white. Probably one of the best looking bikes I've ever owned."

01 June 2023, 16:31
Belgian pro cyclist placed in coma undergoes spinal surgery after training crash
01 June 2023, 15:54
All that glitters... Dangerholm builds a stunning custom Scott Foil painted in "liquid gold"
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Custom bike designer and sensational modder Gustav Gullholm aka Dangerholm is back with his eye-catching bikes and this time, he has once again tried his hands at a road bike.

And the Swede has proven his Midas Touch, with a Scott Foil RC Liquid featuring a "liquid gold" custom special effects paint job, shifts dramatically from being completely transparent, allowing the black carbon fiber to be visible as if just clear coated, to flipping between green, gold and in some angles even blue tones.

> Dangerholm’s 7.49kg Scott Contessa Addict gravel bike

Known for making incredibly lightweight mountain bikes, his iteration at the road bike also weighs in at just 7.1kgs with the Scott Foil chassis.  He said: "I decided that I would try to take the essence of the Foil to the next level, building an aero bike with elegance and performance turned up to 11. To make it a bike that appears as a whole and not as a selection of parts and components simply put together.

"The goal was that it would in some ways resemble and bring the feeling of looking at a beautiful super car. Things like having matching body panels, small logos, clean tires with no big brand patches and so on - but a bicycle."

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2023 Dangerholm Scott Foil RC Liquid custom8
2023 Dangerholm Scott Foil RC Liquid custom4

We'll have a deep-dive on this miracle coming out soon on our Bike @Bedtime series, so stay tuned for that, but I'll give you my two cents: I think the madman has outdone himself this time!

> The Dangerholm Scott Foil - A masterclass in custom built bikes

01 June 2023, 15:03
Cyclist beware, for real this time! Fake race accounts are back

It's that time of the year again. Fake race accounts trying to scam or phish you into doing something unwise and leaving you pretty embarrassed. If you've been one of those people, it's fine, mistakes do happen, even by the best of us.

But here's the road.cc PSA, with the help of Paul James' tweet, that please don't open any messages or click on any links sent to you by genuine-looking race accounts (I know, we all dream of getting DM'ed by TdF, don't we...)

Several other cyclists also reportedly got DMs from this fake Tour of Norway account. Another user John Maguire also mentioned that the actual ToN account is running a competition right now, which makes things worse.

The news comes just two weeks after Jumbo-Visma's account got hacked and became a cryptocurrency-advertising and Musk-retweeting account. These pesky scammers I tell you...

01 June 2023, 14:48
HGV with "cyclists beware" sign in a pedestrian and cycle zone

We've had Amazon vans and Guinness trucks on cycle lanes, now get ready for an HGV with a "cyclists beware" sign on its back on a cycle lane.

01 June 2023, 14:34
Mask or no mask? Another doctor weighs in whether you should wear one while cycling

After epidemiologist Dr Eric Feigl-Ding embarassed himself a little bit after getting his facts completely wrong in claiming that 2023 Giro d'Italia winner Primož Roglič wore a mask during the "strenuous mountain time trial", which eventually won him the title over Geraint Thomas, another nephrologist has weighed in on whether you shoud wear a mask when on the bike.

Dr Satoshi Akima from Australia replied under Dr Feigl-Ding's tweet, saying "cycling in an N95 is the new normal" for him. "I'd recommend the valved versions as they are more breathable and don't trap heat. Valves are designed with exercise/labour in mind,"  he added, referring to the 3M (9322+ P2) N95 mask.

Dr Feigl-Ding did make a point about masks helping to reduce inhaling of car's fumes from the exhaust when riding behind one in traffic, but what do you think? I know I struggled when I once tried doing it in 2020, seems so long ago...

01 June 2023, 13:01
Active Travel England to be consulted on all developments exceeding 150 housing units
Marmalade Lane, Cambridge (Active Travel England)

Active Travel England has confirmed that it is now officially a statutory consultee on all planning applications for developments equal to or exceeding 150 housing units, 7,500m2 of floorspace or an area of five hectares.

The new role will enable Active Travel England to help planning authorities in their work to implement good active travel design – for example, by ensuring developments include walking, wheeling and cycling connectivity to schools and local amenities. This will help improve public health, save people money and reduce harmful emissions.

> Active Travel England rates councils' capability to deliver infrastructure — 94% fall in lowest three categories

Active Travel Commissioner Chris Boardman said: "Active travel is essential to improving public health, reducing emissions and tackling the cost of living crisis. That’s why we’re working to ensure millions more people have the opportunity to walk, wheel or cycle from their doorstep to where they need to be.

"Designing activity back into our neighbourhoods and creating places where children have transport independence is achievable – it just needs smart planning.

"As a statutory consultee Active Travel England will work with planning authorities and developers to help them ensure new estates give people what they need to get fresh air and exercise, save money on petrol and help fight climate change.”

01 June 2023, 12:52
Motorists drive the full length of pavement at speed to avoid Just Stop Oil protests

That's it. That's the post. Pretty clear, pretty illegal?

01 June 2023, 12:02
"It's about the safety of our kids": Residents claim proposed cycleway could put children playing in danger
01 June 2023, 11:26
"They're protected by the Highway Code": Howard Cox claims cyclists rule the highways, "can do what they want, when they want"

It's that time of the day, I've got more Howard Cox anti-cyclist content for you.

In the GBNews interview from yesterday, the FairFuel UK co-founder and campaigner for motorists' rights went on a lengthy rant about 20mph zones, saying: "It's impossible to stick to 20 miles an hour, because you're looking at the speedometer and not looking at the road ahead."

"Let's face it, this has happened: I have been overtaken in 20 miles an hour zones by cyclists. They are not actually subject to it. They are protected by the Highway Code and the 'heirarchy of blame'. They'll never be touched, they can do what they want, when they want."

Cox then went on to share a completely trustworthy and foolproof anecdote of a cyclist who once told him: "It's great to overtake cars in 20mph zones because it feels like we rule the highways."

Cox appeared on today morning's TalkTV broadcast as well, and was asked to give a response to yesterday's Just Stop Oil protest. And a response he did share.

"I've got to go to a meeting and I'll have to drive because there are no trains, and I'll come across these Just Stop Oil protestors. Don't quote me on this, don't tell anyone who's listening, if they're there, I'm gonna run over them."

The presenter replied: "I don't think you're allowed to do that, that's the annoying thing."

Cox said, with a hearty laugh: "But I'll surely be tempted to."

01 June 2023, 11:23
Police constable issues warning to drivers parking cars on cycle lanes

At least Sussex police is up to some good.

01 June 2023, 10:56
Bahrain Victorious' pearl jersey for Le Tour: Yay or nay?

Speaking of outrageously garrish kits... this isn't one of them but I think it looks pretty neat, just, not enough pearly.

What are your thoughts about it? Let us know in the comments...

01 June 2023, 10:09
Supermarket wars in the peloton
2023 Trek rider wheelie Giro d'Italia stage 15 Bergamo (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

2023 Trek rider wheelie Giro d'Italia stage 15 Bergamo (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

We've got a new rivalry going on in the peloton, and it's one you don't want to find yourself in the middle aisle of.

After Trek-Segafredo confirmed that German discount supermarket Lidl will be taking over the team as the title sponsor from 30 June, Intermarché-Circus-Wanty was apparently left a bit shaken, maybe even stirred, at the presence of a new sheriff in town.

In a now deleted tweet, the Belgian team which is sponsored by the French supermarket giant Intermarché, shared the gif of the Special One, the Judas, the serial winner José "respect, respect, respect" Mourinho from a post-match conference during his (second) stint as a Chelsea manager, where he said: "I prefer not to speak, if I speak I am in big trouble".

While he said this about the refereeing during his team's loss to Aston Villa, I'm sure José will have something to say about the refereeing in yesterday's Europa League final...

Anyway, I am mildly excited to see where this feud goes next in the peloton. Maybe a competition to see who has the most outrageously garrish kit? (I, for one, would welcome this wholeheartedly...)

Intermarche-Circus-Wanty's Biniam Girmaye on a TT bike (Zac Williams/SWpix)

Intermarche-Circus-Wanty's Biniam Girmaye on a TT bike (Zac Williams/SWpix)

01 June 2023, 09:45
Some sneezing advice for cyclists...

I've got a PSA for all you folks with allergies and hay fever. Speaking from experience, it can get pretty rubbish in the summers with all the pollen and grass giving you a runny and stuffy nose, itchy watery eyes and a horrible sore throat.

Airborne allergens expert, Max Wiseberg says: "Prevention is better than cure. So helping stop the pollen from getting into your body in the first place is a good strategy.

"Tie your hair up and wear a hat or cap when out cycling to prevent pollen particles being caught in your hair."

"Use an organic drug-free allergen barrier balm such as HayMax during your ride, which can be applied to the nostrils and bones of the eyes in the morning and throughout the day."

"Wear wraparound sunglasses when on a cycle ride to prevent pollen particles coming in contact with your eyes."

"Try to time your cycling so it’s not when pollen counts are highest, during the peak morning and evening periods. Pollen is released early in the morning then travels upwards as the air warms up. In the evening, as the air cools, it moves back down again and the pollen grains reach nose height. Symptoms are usually worst at these times, so avoid going outdoors then."

"Change your kit when you return home and wash your face or take a shower to wash away allergens so that they can’t cause a reaction. A cool compress will soothe sore eyes."

"Dry your kit indoors rather than on an outdoor clothes line to stop pollen being blown onto it by the outside wind."

"Stay hydrated and eat lots of fruit and vegetables to stay healthy and support your immune system."

"Shower at night before sleeping to remove pollen particles from your hair and body."

01 June 2023, 08:55
68% people in Wales support reallocating road area for cycling... then why aren't we seeing it happen?

An NHS Wales' survey has found that a majority of the Welsh population support reallocating local road space to improve active travel — 75 per cent in favour of reallocating it for walking and 68 per cent in favour of reclaiming space for cycling.

In fact, 64 per cent of people said they are interested in increasing the amount of active travel they do, with 21 per cent claiming they were "very interested" in the same. I wonder what's stopping them from doing so?

01 June 2023, 08:20
Cyclists react to London mayor hopeful Howard Cox's impossible pledge to "scrap" LTNs and 20mphs zones
Howard Cox (screenshot from GBNews)

Boy are we kicking off the live blog with lots of misguided claims today!

This time it's Howard Cox, FairFuel UK co-founder and London mayor hopeful (the keyword being hopeful) has sworn that if he gets elected, he will scrap all ULEZ, along with all 20mph zones and low-traffic neighbourhoods.

I don't think he knows that the latter two are not something under the Mayor's control...

According to Cox, who came on GBNews yesterday to talk about speeding convictions, 20mph zones are nothing but a "cash grab" and "anti-driver" policy. And unsurprisingly, cyclists were enraged at these enraging comments.

Cox replied to a couple of the tweets under his post with: "There is sparse evidence that 20mph zones are reducing accidents. a study by Queen's University last year finding that, while speed limits, reduce traffic they do little to stop accidents."

However, Eastbourne Eco Transport was quick to point out this study which questioned the findings of The Queen's research, writing: "The Queen's research was around 'limits' not 'zones'. Many limitations for this small study in Belfast. "evidence from 20mph speed limit interventions involving much larger numbers of roads have revealed significant vehicle speed and casualty reductions"".

He's also tweeted that he's coming on TalkTV today at 9:45AM with allegedly another anti-cyclist rant. You bet I'll be tuning in so you don't have to.

01 June 2023, 07:51
Leading epidemiologist’s mask mishap as he wrongly claims Roglič “won a strenuous mountain time trial while wearing a mask”

We are all prone to speaking our mind a bit too quickly without checking what's right or wrong, right?

It's a shame that a leading American epidemiologist wrongly, and quite naively thought that Primož Roglič won the final nail-biting, gut-wrenching and action-packed time-trial at the Giro d'Italia... while wearing a mask.

> Heartbreak for Geraint Thomas as Primož Roglič seals sensational Giro d’Italia win despite dropping chain during dramatic time trial

And as you'd expect, it's given all sorts of Covid deniers and anti-maskers just the right ammo to have a field day with this honestly astonishing tweet. Maybe Feigl-Ding could have just, you know, Googled it? Or looked at the countless other images where they are not parading with their bikes and actually on the road? Or maybe he took our April Fools too seriously...

Either way, a mishap caused by blissful ignorance and wishful thinking. But he does make a good point, something around which Ryan wrote about a month ago, ahem, more than a month ago (it's June 1st today! Happy Pride! 🏳️‍🌈)
 
 

Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after graduating with a masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Wales, and also likes to writes about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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NOtotheEU | 10 months ago
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kingleo | 10 months ago
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According to some research, motorists breathe in more motor vehicle fumes in heavy traffic than cyclists - so they should be the people who wear masks.

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hawkinspeter replied to kingleo | 10 months ago
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kingleo wrote:

According to some research, motorists breathe in more motor vehicle fumes in heavy traffic than cyclists - so they should be the people who wear masks.

Or better yet, stop polluting so much that masks aren't needed

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NOtotheEU | 10 months ago
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Howard Cox says "They're protected by the Highway Code"

The Highway Code didn't protect the two cyclists killed in May on Birminghams roads by hit and run drivers or the 4 year old killed on Monday round the corner from me at a 'traffic calming' narrow point which the driver clearly ignored.

Found out at work today the cyclist killed yesterday was a colleague who left for a new job a month ago. Lovely guy who will be sadly missed and f**k the selfish p***k who murdered him.

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Simon E replied to NOtotheEU | 10 months ago
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NOtotheEU wrote:

Howard Cox says "They're protected by the Highway Code"

The Highway Code didn't protect the two cyclists killed in May on Birminghams roads by hit and run drivers or the 4 year old killed on Monday round the corner from me at a 'traffic calming' narrow point which the driver clearly ignored.

Found out at work today the cyclist killed yesterday was a colleague who left for a new job a month ago. Lovely guy who will be sadly missed and f**k the selfish p***k who murdered him.

Sorry to hear that. When it's someone you know it's so much more brutal.

And it makes words by arrogant, selfish, lying toe-rag Howard Cox even more distressing. I guess he's playing the "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" game.

These selfish anti-LTN / anti-tax / climate denier junkies ought to nominate a family member they'd like to be crushed by a speeding vehicle, or maybe volunteer to be a crash test dummy themselves if it's so innocuous.

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NOtotheEU replied to Simon E | 10 months ago
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Thanks. You're right, it really brings it home and then some idiot spouts off all that nonsense and it just rubs salt in the wound.

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP replied to NOtotheEU | 10 months ago
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It is GB news - they spout all sorts of brexthick rubbish all the time. What sort of idiots believe  anything they spout? The 9% probably  1 

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NOtotheEU replied to BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 10 months ago
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Really mate? I've got no problem with the regular banter but if you could please consider the content of the discussion before jumping straight in that would be great.

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Daveyraveygravey | 10 months ago
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RE Howard Cox: is there any reason a cyclist shouldn't overtake a car travelling at 20 mph?   Assuming the cyclist can maintain that speed for a distance so that the car isn't forced to overtake the cyclist straight away, and it's done in a safe way so as not to endanger anyone involved?

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hawkinspeter replied to Daveyraveygravey | 10 months ago
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Daveyraveygravey wrote:

RE Howard Cox: is there any reason a cyclist shouldn't overtake a car travelling at 20 mph?   Assuming the cyclist can maintain that speed for a distance so that the car isn't forced to overtake the cyclist straight away, and it's done in a safe way so as not to endanger anyone involved?

Not only is there no good reason that they shouldn't, but the cyclist will be getting out of the way of the cars by doing that, so less congestion. The only reason I can see for a driver to not want that is if they're putting an emotional value on overtaking someone. I wonder if they stick out their elbows when walking to prevent faster walkers from getting past them

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nosferatu1001 replied to hawkinspeter | 10 months ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

Daveyraveygravey wrote:

RE Howard Cox: is there any reason a cyclist shouldn't overtake a car travelling at 20 mph?   Assuming the cyclist can maintain that speed for a distance so that the car isn't forced to overtake the cyclist straight away, and it's done in a safe way so as not to endanger anyone involved?

Not only is there no good reason that they shouldn't, but the cyclist will be getting out of the way of the cars by doing that, so less congestion. The only reason I can see for a driver to not want that is if they're putting an emotional value on overtaking someone. I wonder if they stick out their elbows when walking to prevent faster walkers from getting past them

a lot of drivers seem to take being overtaken by a car personally, so I'd imagine a cyclist would leave them furious. 

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Bigfoz replied to nosferatu1001 | 10 months ago
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Some years ago I drove a Suzuki Wagn-R - great little car for taking me and my bike into striking distance of Canary Wharf to complete my commute. Dead reliable, 50+Mpg, bike in the back with ease, and quite fun. BUT. Every driver in a car slightly bigger / faster (most of them...) HAD to overtake me, irrespective of speed / road conditions / weather conditions / oncoming traffic. It was almost as bad as being a cyclist. Yes, this is largely an emotional issue with drivers getting overly emotional about other people being "in their way", even when getting past puts everyone, including themselves in danger.

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Rendel Harris replied to Daveyraveygravey | 10 months ago
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I don't think I'd be able to overtake any driver doing 20 mph on our local 20 mph streets, not because I can't do 20 mph when I want to but because of the aerodynamic and friction drag caused by my jaw scraping along the floor. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a motorist in a 20 mph zone with a clear run (no traffic ahead and no speed bumps) who was actually sticking to 20 mph.

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omaclean | 10 months ago
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Eric Feigl-Ding is as much a "Leading epidemiologist" as I am a "leading cyclist", voicing strong opinions online doesn't give you any palmares. He's a total con artist with absolutely no serious scientific output (in journals or on twitter), and no respect amongst the actual professionals. 

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Roulereo replied to omaclean | 10 months ago
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Are Mask Karens are still around? 

Still fighting the good fight, pushing for Fascism while they will never see it that way. 

This Woke muppet would be better off investigating where Covid actually came from.

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brooksby | 10 months ago
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Motorists drive the full length of pavement at speed to avoid Just Stop Oil protests

Given that the police now routinely videotape any lawful protests so they can identify and 'keep an eye on' the protestors, presumably they have footage of these blatantly lawbreaking motorists and can prosecute them for (very!) dangerous driving...?

 

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Roulereo replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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How many Stop Oil morons do the Met even arrest? It only appears they arrest the average working class people they impacting. The Met only keep an eye on them so they can join their Facebook groups later on, share their lame Woke memes. They'd only use the videotape for recruitment ads anyway, in between dancing for Tik Tok clips at Pride marches. 

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Mungecrundle replied to Roulereo | 10 months ago
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At least 6.

https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/national/23543508.six-just-stop-...

I do agree with you in the hope that the Met Police don't get too focused on JSO when they have dangerous drivers such as those in the video to deal with.

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brooksby replied to Roulereo | 10 months ago
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Roulereo wrote:

How many Stop Oil morons do the Met even arrest? It only appears they arrest the average working class people they impacting. The Met only keep an eye on them so they can join their Facebook groups later on, share their lame Woke memes. They'd only use the videotape for recruitment ads anyway, in between dancing for Tik Tok clips at Pride marches. 

Is that the average working class people we've seen on video assaulting the people exercising their right to protest, for holding them up on their way to work...?

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Rendel Harris replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

Is that the average working class people we've seen on video assaulting the people exercising their right to protest, for holding them up on their way to work...?

I don't even agree with JSO's tactics, which I think are counterproductive, but there's a definite cognitive dissonance displayed by those who wail that the police aren't arresting them for breaking the law (even when they're not) and at the same time whine about counter-protestors being arrested for, in some cases, some pretty vicious assaults.

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brooksby | 10 months ago
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Cyclist holding on to moving car is seriously hurt after falling

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/motoring/cyclist-holding-moving-car-s...

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A cyclist has been seriously injured after losing his grip while holding on to the side of a moving car. The man in his 40s had to be airlifted to hospital following the incident.

A woman in her 40s has been arrested in connection with the collision on suspicion of dangerous driving and drug driving. She was taken into police custody for questioning.

The cyclist was on a red pushbike was believed to be holding on to a car and being towed along Spa Road, in Melksham, Wiltshire, at around 6.30pm on Wednesday, May 31. Unable to keep his grip on the vehicle, he fell and sustained potentially life-changing injuries.

Melksham Police said that the driver left the scene but was later found by officers. Wiltshire Police are now appealing for anyone who witnessed the incident to get in touch.

 

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BalladOfStruth | 10 months ago
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I love the “driving at 20mph is really dangerous because I have to constantly stare at the speedometer” argument. I mean, how do drivers currently stick to the current 30mph limits?

*reads government speed compliance statistics*

Oh. I see. None of them do…

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qwerty360 replied to BalladOfStruth | 10 months ago
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Also the wonderful cherrypicking of research comments;

 

Rsearch states they didn't work in belfast. It also agrees they work elsewhere.

 

It explains this contradiction as several factors, the main being speed didn't reduce very much (lack of enforcement and congestion issues).

There suggestions for making a difference reads to me as you need to cover the entire city and then exclude some key, safe routes rather than picking some routes for reduced limit (because the picked areas are always going to be lowest risk and most congested...)

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nosferatu1001 replied to qwerty360 | 10 months ago
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Also drivers drive at a speed that feels right.  Signs do bubbler all, it's all in road layout, width, furniture etc. 

 

signs are cheap however...

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Brauchsel | 10 months ago
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If Howard Cox can't drive at 20mph because he has to stare constantly at his speedometer, mustn't he have the same problem driving at 30mph, 40mph, 70mph etc? That doesn't sound like someone you'd trust to sit the right way round on the toilet, let alone to pilot 2 tonnes of metal and fuel along the public highway. 

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Clem Fandango replied to Brauchsel | 10 months ago
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It's great that he's campaigning to be Mayor of London based on one issue.  When he fails to be elected (by a comfortable margin) it *should* make clear that it really is just the squeaky wheels that he's pandering to & that nobody else believes what he's peddling (sorry) and/or cares that passionately about the evil LTNs and 20mph limits.  So he and his culture "war" can then just get in the bin.

Of course, he *might* just be a self promoting whacko that the media gives a disproportionate amount of credence to......

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Paul J | 10 months ago
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Uhm Feigl-Ding is _not_ a leading epidemiologist. He's a leading purveyor of nonsense on social-media - of which this tweet is another example. His academic background is in nutrition.

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ChrisB200SX | 10 months ago
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Not only are Howard Cox's words inflammatory, misinformation, they seem like incitement to violence and hate speach to me. I presume the serious "News" channel "journalists" questioned and corrected his false claims and untruths?

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lesterama replied to ChrisB200SX | 10 months ago
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It's OK, it's an entertainment channel. Or something.

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mitsky | 10 months ago
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Alongside Mike Graham's "Just don't brake..." (...for cyclists), can the statements be used as evidence against Howard Cox and the presenter when they are involved in a collision...? 

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