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Bettiol lobs bottle at cameraman filming him suffering with cramp at Tour Down Under; Rohan Dennis wins TDU stage 2; "A fast 200": Remco Evenepoel and the Soudal-QuickStep boys casually smash out 200km in just over five hours + more on the live blog

It's cold, very cold, extremely cold, extraordinarily cold... you get it, it's cold... Dan Alexander is c̶o̶l̶d̶ here for the Thursday live blog...
19 January 2023, 17:31
Alberto Bettiol's air bottle lob

But comment of the day goes to Shake... "I would have liked to have seen Bettiol throw a bottle at the helicopter". Stage three is in eight hours or so... you're up, Alberto...  

19 January 2023, 09:33
Cameraman filming the moment Alberto Bettiol's Tour Down Under unravelled due to cramp gets bottle thrown at him by irate EF rider

We can all feel Bertie Bettiol's frustration in this clip and a lot of you will have been there. Your mind and the rest of your body is still (sort of) saying yes, but an excruciating cramp stops you in your tracks and there is nothing you can do about it.  

We see the 29-year-old Italian — who won Tuesday's 5.5km prologue — desperately trying to beat the cramp out of his upper left leg, before conceding and coming to another stop. At about 54 secs into the clip, Bettiol notices that an intrepid cameraman has sniffed out a scoop and stopped to zoom in on his suffering... and angrily chucks a bottle in his direction when the filming doesn't stop. 

Suppose cameraman was just doing his job, and that reaction can't be fully justified... but if we've learnt anything, it's that if Mr Bettiol is in a mood maybe give him some space!

19 January 2023, 16:18
More support for James Knox

That's Tao Geoghegan Hart, Oli Naesen, Luke Rowe and now Tim Declercq speaking out in support of James Knox... 

Pretty decent line-up those four... 

> Frustration over "very dangerous" precedent to kick James Knox off Tour Down Under for drafting car after concussion check 

19 January 2023, 15:20
And it's not just in Liverpool...

Another road.cc reader, Tim, got in touch with details about another case of bike lane blocking, this time on one of London's Cycle Superhighways near Battersea Bridge. Submitting footage of a moped parked in one, he told us the infra is "marked with a solid white line, and may or may not also be marked with wands."

"It did not seem to be damaged or parked there in an emergency, and the rider summonsed to court following non-acceptance of a penalty charge notice."

Offences: Danger of injury to other persons and Obscured vehicle registration mark 

Court Result: Fine £440, Costs £159 and L/E 3ppts

The rider did not attend court.

"Word has spread, and Battersea Bridge has remained clear of parked vehicles for several months now," Tim said.

"This may seem minor, but it's a busy road, and cycle lane obstructions can force vulnerable road users into the main flow of traffic, so am pleased with the result, which sends a clear message. 

"I do think it unfortunate that Transport for London (TFL) hasn't really done much in the way of spreading awareness about not parking in cycle lanes, and unless you keep up to date with the TFL website, you would never know that there's London-specific legislation." 

19 January 2023, 14:37
Cav to make Astana debut in Oman
Mark Cavendish Astana (Image credit: Astana Qazaqstan)

Tour of Oman. That's where Mark Cavendish will make his Astana Qazaqstan debut next month (February 10-14). 

> Mark Cavendish signs for Astana Qazaqstan for 2023 season

And speaking to Cyclingnews, team sports director Stefano Zanini said it's an "honour" to work with Cavendish and the team will "do everything we can" to help him win races.

"It's an honour that a great sprinter like Mark has decided to join Astana Qazaqstan," he said. "He's the best there is and probably the best sprinter in the history of the sport. We'll do everything we can do to help him this season and set him up in every sprint we can contest.

"Astana Qazaqstan was traditionally a Grand Tour and stage race team. Now we've got Mark in the team and so we'll adapt and do whatever we can to back him. We'll need some time to perfect a lead-out train but we've got Cees Bol who has also come on board specifically to help Mark. There's also Martin Laas, under-23 world champion Yevgeniy Fedorov, Dmitriy Gruzdev, plus Manuele Boaro and Davide Martinelli for the final kilometres.

"People have questioned if we can set up Mark for the sprints but I think we can and even do it pretty well."

19 January 2023, 13:07
Get back to where you once belonged (the road)... why cyclists don't use the cycle lane part 8576, Liverpool tanker edition
tanker in cycle lane Liverpool - credit Grant Carter-Moore

You can get a ferry across the Mersey by all means... but riding a bike alongside it isn't so easy nowadays, because this cycle lane on Liverpool's dock road "is not only a mass of broken glass but being used for parking", according to road.cc reader Grant Carter-Moore. 

The cycle lane, which runs past Everton's new football stadium that is set to be completed in time for the 2024/25 season, is segregated in parts... but it looks like the parts that aren't segregated have reverted to disappointing type, with what looks to be an oil tanker parked on the left side of the lane. 

"The cycle lane has only been opened the last couple of years, wagons park over it all the time", Gareth told road.cc. 

We've asked Liverpool City Council for comment. 

* Update, 20/01/23: A Liverpool City Council spokesperson told road.cc: [We] have forwarded on to our highways and parking team to see if someone can go out and issue a ticket and get the vehicle moved."

19 January 2023, 12:27
DJ Eenkhoorn

Just imagine the disgust of the winter sun seekers trying to enjoy a peaceful lie in... 

19 January 2023, 12:16
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19 January 2023, 11:52
Cycle lanes removed from Exeter's Queen Street redesign
Queen Street Exeter (Google Maps)

Plans to redesign Queen Street in Exeter have seen the proposed cycle lanes scrapped due to cost concerns. The BBC reports that Devon County Council agreed the cycle infrastructure should be removed from plans due to "significant increases" in the cost of materials.

Councillors said the £250,000 active travel project needed to stay within budget, meaning the cycle lanes have been removed from the plans and the new widened footpath will be 50cm narrower than previously stated. This is to allow the road to return to two lanes...

19 January 2023, 10:55
Tour Down Under stage two highlights

Here's the action if you missed it this morning...

19 January 2023, 10:16
Concussion check controversy

Sorry everyone, nipped out to do something on one of the big stories from yesterday...

James Knox crash Tour Down Under (GCN+)

> Frustration over "very dangerous" precedent to kick James Knox off Tour Down Under for drafting car after concussion check

19 January 2023, 10:05
Other Tour Down Under news... Rohan Dennis wins stage two

Aside from Bertie's bottle and cramping leg, Rohan Dennis had no such problems and claimed a home victory on stage two in Adelaide. Dennis broke away from a strong lead group of five, displaying raw power to cross the line with a couple of seconds to spare... 

19 January 2023, 08:48
"A fast 200": Remco Evenepoel and the Soudal-QuickStep boys casually smash out 200km in just over five hours

It never fails to amaze us how much better the pros are at riding a bicycle than you or I...

 

While one part of the peloton is over in Oz starting their season with Tour Down Under, there's another bunch over in Argentina (pro cycling's a green sport, eh) gearing up for Vuelta a San Juan.

World champ Remco is the big name on the startlist and along with his Soudal-QuickStep teammates set off on this silly speed 200km training ride. Now admittedly there was only 900m of climbing on the flat hit out, but still... 38.3km/h, 200km in 5:13...

Along with Remco was 'John Deere' Yves Lampaert, new signing Jan Hirt, Pieter Serry and presumably non-Stravaing teammates Fabio Jakobsen and Michael Mørkøv. Not a bad little group ride...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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I did laugh when I read sunak is being investigated by *lancs* police on non seat belt use.

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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Councillors said the £250,000 active travel project needed to stay within budget, meaning the cycle lanes have been removed from the plans and the new widened footpath will be 50cm narrower than previously stated. This is to allow the road to return to two lanes...
 

yea right. Of course it's just too expensive. It's cheaper to make the pavement narrower. 

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JustTryingToGet... replied to BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP wrote:

Councillors said the £250,000 active travel project needed to stay within budget, meaning the cycle lanes have been removed from the plans and the new widened footpath will be 50cm narrower than previously stated. This is to allow the road to return to two lanes...
 

yea right. Of course it's just too expensive. It's cheaper to make the pavement narrower. 

There are much better experts on active travel on here than me... but surely the proposal invalidates the purpose if the budget? It's really really expensive to return funds.

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Car Delenda Est | 1 year ago
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Am I right in thinking Devon council used active travel funding to make a one-way a two-way?

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to Car Delenda Est | 1 year ago
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Car Delenda Est wrote:

Am I right in thinking Devon council used active travel funding to make a one-way a two-way?

Queen Street was previously a two way road but has had a temporary cycle lane put in, since COVID, which has fully blocked one of the lanes for part of the length of the road (between Northernhay and Paul st). They always would have done something with it as the temporary solution, involving temporary traffic lights and planters, was pretty shoddy.

But yes, they are using active travel budget to increase the carriageway from it's current (albeit temporarily restricted) width. It's an abysmal proposal.

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mark1a | 1 year ago
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One for wtjs, Lancs' finest investigate a car passenger for not wearing a seatbelt:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64337866
 

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ktache replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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Ambushed by a back seat...

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ChuckSneed | 1 year ago
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Once again, you can avoid the problems of the bike lane being blocked by just riding in the road

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to ChuckSneed | 1 year ago
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ChuckSneed wrote:

Once again, you can avoid the problems of the bike lane being blocked by just riding in the road parking your vehicle legally

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nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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How is this an "active travel" project when it removes the cycle lane, narrows the pavement and reinstates 2 way car lanes?  

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brooksby replied to nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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(edited - just realised Owd Big Ead got there first!)

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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nosferatu1001 wrote:

How is this an "active travel" project when it removes the cycle lane, narrows the pavement and reinstates 2 way car lanes?  

Honestly, it's all a complete farce. If they wanted to do something positive, they could extend the pedestrianisation out to Exeter Central station and leave the car parks accessible from the North Street side only. It would prevent Queen Street being so busy and unpleasant.

But they won't.

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Owd Big 'Ead | 1 year ago
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Exeter rollback on proposed bike lanes.
I hadn't realised white paint had gone up in price so much.....

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Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Tcha, that effort by Remco and his mates is pathetic. Worst attempt at a Strava art duck I've ever seen. Amateurs.

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Shake | 1 year ago
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I would have liked to have seen Bettiol throw a bottle at the helicopter 

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duncanap | 1 year ago
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Interesting article on LTNs in the guardian - shows no significant increase of traffic on boundary roads, but rather "traffic evaporation". Sorry I can't post the link 

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fenix replied to duncanap | 1 year ago
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Patrick9-32 replied to duncanap | 1 year ago
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but, but, but, but.... My car centric intuitive view says loony lefty LTNs push traffic to other areas!!!!!

 

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Awavey replied to duncanap | 1 year ago
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"Appears" to show, or as the researchers say themselves "suggests" which are very important qualifiers that alot of people seem to be missing.

I can see this increasingly being my new bugbear where research gets cited as absolute proof by proponents simply to shutdown valid debate.

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SimoninSpalding replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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These are the correct words for a proper scientific study of this type to use. There are too many variables in human behaviour and travel for them all to be excluded entirely. When a researcher says it "appears" to show something they are telling you that they don't have another plausible explanation. I agree that this does not mean there isn't one, but you can be sure that an unscientific approach, in the absence of any evidence would make absolute statements of opinion represented as fact.

If there are any alternative interpetations of the data I would be interested, but I suspect that the real benefit of LTNs is not about cutting down through traffic, but about encouraging the local residents to walk/ cycle for 5 minutes rather than drive for 2 minutes, hence why there is a reduction around the LTN not an increase as some predicted. It is important to note that this will not necessarily be the same for all LTNs depending on the nature of the traffic before, the demographic of local residents and the proximity of amenities.

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nosferatu1001 replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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Dismissing "appears" is the same as dismissing the term "theory" (when used correctly). 

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wycombewheeler replied to nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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nosferatu1001 wrote:

Dismissing "appears" is the same as dismissing the term "theory" (when used correctly). 

as in

"You can't tell me evolution is real, it's only a theory"

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Awavey replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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I've no issue with this study, it properly explains its limitations and the need for more data and research to continue on it.

My issue is the way the study is grabbed by proponents of LTNs as if its simply THE ultimate conclusive proof, when its not. Even by the very charity who commissioned it who talk about how we should make data led decisions citing a study that actually concluded we need more data on this !!!

And I just wish people would approach a study like this as hey this data shows something interesting about LTNs that counters a narrative they increase traffic, let's try a few more and see where we get with them.Not treat it like but study says so it must be so.

One thing the study didnt mention is post Covid peoples driving patterns have changed, the roads are much more quiet on Mondays/Fridays than they are midweek, I suspect alot of traffic evaporation might be explained by that.

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duncanap replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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I thought changes in traffic patterns over time were included? I must admit I only read the article not the study. As this covers pre/post Covid times and looks at inside/outside LTNs then surely that should naturally take pre/post Covid changes into account.

i do agree with your comments on the desire for binary position supporting PROOF. I think that is driven by the confrontational nature of social media. It could also be related to poor education in statistics - a significant link is not necessarily proof of causality for example. 
 

And I very much agree with your point that this seems to show that the world isn't going to end thanks to LTNs and maybe we should try a few more well designed ones and do more research as to their impact. I would be really interested in air quality impacts for example.

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marmotte27 replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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This is what it says on the charity's website:
"The truth about low traffic neighbourhoods
We’ve conducted the biggest ever study into the impact of LTNs and the evidence is in: they work."

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Simon E replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

One thing the study didnt mention is post Covid peoples driving patterns have changed, the roads are much more quiet on Mondays/Fridays than they are midweek, I suspect alot of traffic evaporation might be explained by that.

Do you have any data on that? (since data is what you were talking about)

No obvious drop in traffic volumes in & around Shrewsbury on Mondays and Fridays sadly, but there is feck-all cycling infrastructure, a rather cycling-hostile county council while the appalling bus services can't be helping either.

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marmotte27 replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Where's that downvote button?

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Awavey replied to marmotte27 | 1 year ago
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sad

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