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Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling...two weeks after ripping out LTNs; 10/10 kit; Insane urban downhill skills; Uninsured driver caught in cycle lane; Quick-Step tease contract news...it wasn't Cav; Bike bus trend spreads + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander is here for your Wednesday dose of live blog action
20 October 2021, 15:29
Some more reaction to Ealing Council's unwanted advice

Ealing Council has been taking a kicking today. Here's some more of the rage and disbelief heading their way...

One quite famous local had his say too...

Over on our Facebook, David Kelly was keen to have a pop at every council everywhere.

"What do you expect? It’s a Council FGS.. I’ve yet to hear any good reports about any. Ours are just as useless.." Someone's bin didn't get collected...

20 October 2021, 14:13
Nigeria kit or fake cycling infra?
Nigeria kit meme (chrisonatrike)

Chrisonatrike in the comments feels like he's seen that Nigeria kit before...brooksby reckons it's more like the chewy mint wrappers from the 70s...

20 October 2021, 14:08
Four-time Ironman world champion Chrissie Wellington goes gravel
20 October 2021, 13:46
Uninsured driver caught taking cycle lane shortcut

Another classic of the 'drivers using cycle lanes' genre. Jeremy Vine has something of a monopoly on the genre in our archives...

> Jeremy Vine films motorist driving down Hyde Park cycle path

One in Hyde Park and one Uber driver cutting in front of a cyclist to take a shortcut through a segregated cycle lane.

Worse still was the German motorist who filmed himself speeding past a cyclist riding in the road...by driving along the segregated shared-use path. The driver shared the video on Facebook with the caption, "If you use my lane, I'll use yours."

20 October 2021, 13:32
"All he does is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood": Meghan Markle's dad slams Prince Harry...about his time in the saddle
Thomas Markle (Screenshot GMB/ITV)

Time for some tedious celeb news to light up your Wednesday afternoon...the estranged father of Meghan Markle has ripped into Prince Harry during an explosive Good Morning Britain interview. Why? For one, he abandoned the Queen and royal family. But far worse, "All he does now is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood he lives in. It's not much of a life for him either, it doesn't make sense."

Doesn't sound too bad to me. Was anything else said worth reporting here? No, not really...

20 October 2021, 10:45
Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling...two weeks after ripping out LTNs

Images that precede heavy criticism:

Ealing Council was winding up its residents this morning by suggesting active travel or public transport for journeys of under two miles. The problem? Well, just two weeks ago today they began work removing seven LTNs based on 22,000 responses to a 'consultation' many have dubbed a residents' referendum

Cllr Costigan asked locals to believe the council remains committed to active travel, but was listening to (22,000 out of 340,000) local people when deciding to scrap the schemes. It wasn't the first time the council has ended up in hot water for its handling of an active travel scheme.

Back in May, an LTN trial was removed "during the school run" as parents and children tried to make their way home along the route...

Needless to say, suggesting more walking and cycling didn't go down well, with many accusing the council of empty words and encouraging, not enabling.

Our personal favourite... 

20 October 2021, 11:54
Grand Tour news: Remco will go to the Vuelta + Quintana all in for the Tour
2021 Tour de France Arkea Samsic Quintana Canyon Aeroad - 1

He may not have finished on the podium since 2016 and in the top ten since 2019, but Nairo Quintana says he's still going all in for the Tour de France next July. The Colombian took a break from dressing as a chameleon on the Masked Singer to speak to EFE..."For me, the Tour is always the race of the year - all of my preparation will be focused on the Tour. We’ll have to talk to the directors and riders, and we’ll study the route, and then we’ll make some decisions about how we will take on the Tour.

"I am a GC rider. Every year I come to the Tour with these ambitions, except 2021, when physical problems wiped them out. The route is good for us. It’s important to arrive in top condition to be able to take it on."

Elsewhere, Patrick Lefevere has been saying things. Don't worry, nothing silly. He outlined his team's plans for Remco Evenepoel next year and said the goal is to get the Belgian back in top shape for the Vuelta a España. Evenepoel struggled at his maiden Grand Tour, this year's Giro, and Lefevere wants to build him up with week-long stage races before taking the step up to three weeks.

20 October 2021, 11:33
10/10 kit: Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships

It's day one of the world champs in Roubaix and the Nigerians may have won the entire thing already. Not because of anything on the track, just for this beauty of a kit...

Here's your day one schedule. Lots of qualifying (plus some team sprint finals later on)...

20 October 2021, 10:09
As good as it gets? How's your bike-handling? How are your nerves?

Every time this video resurfaces it gets those butterflies going. Just watching until the end feels like an accomplishment...

Want eight reasons why your next bike should be a mountain bike? This video may have just made that nine...

And for all the best specialist off-road news, reviews and features check out our sister site off-road.cc...

20 October 2021, 09:51
Bike bus trend spreads: meet the Bicibús (or should I say El Bicibús)

We've seen a few of these pop up here in the UK and Ireland, but it seems the trend is going international.

20 October 2021, 09:05
Deceuninck-Quick-Step tease "important news"...spoiler alert: it wasn't Cav's contract announcement

As a British-based cycling website, when you see Quick-Step tweet something like this it gets you excited for some Cav news...are they about to finally announce his new contract? Nope. No offence, Zdeněk Štybar, it's not quite the news we were looking for...

20 October 2021, 07:47
"Were cycles not on roads before vehicles took over?": Some final reaction to yesterday's social media spat
Deleted tweet

Right, let's wrap up the final reaction to the drivers vs cyclists social media spat from yesterday...chances are most cyclists here drive as well, a context that's often lost in a 280 character reply. The tweet that began it all has now been deleted, but spread the message "the amount of cyclists on the road today should be considered a crime."

It got plenty of educational (and funny) replies, and for whatever reason these sorts of 'debates' are popular, so here's the last of your thoughts and opinions before we move on...

Clive Wallis commented on Facebook: "Three hours waiting for fuel not a problem. Double parking - not a problem. 10 minutes driving round looking for a parking place - that's okay. Held up for three seconds by a cyclist and I go ballistic !!!!"

Tim Chandler added: "It's all relative...car drivers don't give a toss about holding up motorcyclists, but get stroppy when they get held up by the kings of the road on pedal cycles."

Graham Snook still has the most-liked comment: "They moan about people on bikes on the road, they moan about spending money on a dedicated cycling infrastructure to get people on bikes off the road. They moan if we go too close to their cars and moan if we keep a safe distance away from them. They moan that they want us to obey the traffic laws, but also moan when we ride two abreast. What they want us to be is Schrödinger's cyclist."

The blog got enough attention for it to be shared out to the wider non-cycling public, including some of those who enjoy a spot of bingo...

Bubba Junior added some intellect to the conversation..."Not got a problem with push bikes but for the love of god can you wear proper clothing, the bikes was here before cars but the men didn’t ride around in Lycra shorts and tap dancing shoes."

To be honest, we're still thinking about this...

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of lower leagues football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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dabba | 2 years ago
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Ealing Council?

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Organon | 2 years ago
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Sorry Nairo, that generational ship has sailed. That applies to you Chris too.

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mdavidford | 2 years ago
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Picky, but

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Traveling [sic] at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance!

It would have been OK if they were insured?

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wycombewheeler replied to mdavidford | 2 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

Picky, but

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Traveling [sic] at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance!

It would have been OK if they were insured?

No, but drawing attention to yourself when you are already commiting a crime is very foolish. It's amazin how many other offences the police uncover due to traffic stops. You'd think if crimanals are driving cars containing damning evidence (look a boot full of drugs) they would take pains to ensure their driving was unlikely to draw attention.

But then I guess the jails are full of stupid criminals, and the smart ones don't get caught.

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mdavidford replied to wycombewheeler | 2 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

You'd think if crimanals are driving cars containing damning evidence (look a boot full of drugs) they would take pains to ensure their driving was unlikely to draw attention.

Not necessarily. Part of the reason they're happy to drive around without insurance or with a boot full of drugs is probably due to an assumption that there won't be anyone around to catch them in the first place. The same assumption then applies to driving in the cycle lane, at 1.5x the speed limit, etc.

And the sad part is that in the large majority of cases, they're probably right to assume that.

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chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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RE Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships - I hope they're fast otherwise they're likely to be driven over by cars.

 

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brooksby replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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That kit looks like the wrappers of those chewy mints you could buy back in the seventies...

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brooksby replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Found it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacers_(confectionery)

And it was the sweets that looked like that, apparently...

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IanGlasgow replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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They'd be well camouflaged cycling in that lane.

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SlowOldSteve | 2 years ago
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That MTB run, wow, I'm tasting hospital food just watching!! Respect to the riders.

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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That Medellin run.

  

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mdavidford replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Want eight reasons why your next bike should be a mountain bike? This video may have just made that nine...

Er, really not. More likely to scare me off them for life.

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0-0 | 2 years ago
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I've only found two things whilst cycling on the roads:
Pot holes and arse holes 😃

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I like bikes | 2 years ago
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People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing 🤷‍♂️

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rct replied to I like bikes | 2 years ago
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Good for you.  I prefer to do it a bit quicker even more comfortably so wear clothing to facilitate that.

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I like bikes replied to rct | 2 years ago
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😂 Quicker than me you mean? Might be time for some silly commuter racing!
Not that either of us are silly, and I'm not a commuter

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hawkinspeter replied to I like bikes | 2 years ago
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I like bikes wrote:

People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing 🤷‍♂️

I don't understand that point at all.

There's plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don't necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing - it's just more comfortable for most people.

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Steve K replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

I like bikes wrote:

People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing 🤷‍♂️

I don't understand that point at all.

There's plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don't necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing - it's just more comfortable for most people.

There's a whole fashion sector now called athleisure - half the mothers dropping off at my kids' school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, but many won't.  Yet no-one complains about lycra then.  But suddently when someone wears it on a bike it's a point to ridicule.  As I pointed out on the Ned Boulting thread, the Times sports journalist Elizabeth Ammon was at it on twitter the other day too.  It's ridiculous.   (a) what's wrong with wearing clothing designed for the activity you are undertaking and anyway (b) who gives a toss what other people wear.

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Jetmans Dad replied to Steve K | 2 years ago
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Steve K wrote:

There's a whole fashion sector now called athleisure - half the mothers dropping off at my kids' school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, but many won't.  Yet no-one complains about lycra then.  But suddently when someone wears it on a bike it's a point to ridicule.  

Without wanting to appear in any way sexist ... could it be that the kind of people who complain about cyclists in lycra have no problem with how mums on the school run look in yoga pants, but don't feel the same way about middle aged blokes in cycling shorts. 

Just a thought. 

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GMBasix replied to Jetmans Dad | 2 years ago
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Jetmans Dad wrote:

  ...school run...

it's not even running

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Geoff Ingram replied to Jetmans Dad | 2 years ago
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As an oldie in lycra, all I can say is that if it is about aesthetic considerations, why don't they complain about older woman in bathing costumes swimming in the sea? Exactly the same: wear correct comfortable clothing for your chosen sport and bollox to anyone else. OK, if your shorts are so worn that they are basically transparente and your arse is hanging out they may have a point, otherwise they should shutting up.

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wycombewheeler replied to Steve K | 2 years ago
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Steve K wrote:

There's a whole fashion sector now called athleisure - half the mothers dropping off at my kids' school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, 

If you are running a sweepstake on how many can I take 5% to 10%

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Sriracha replied to I like bikes | 2 years ago
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I like bikes wrote:

People have got a point...

What actually is "the point" about lycra (and ballet?) shoes? Some cyclists wear lycra, and, ... and what?

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I like bikes replied to Sriracha | 2 years ago
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They do look ridiculous though

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Hirsute replied to I like bikes | 2 years ago
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The people ? The shoes? The clothing?

Any other sports you judge people on for their attire ?

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Mungecrundle replied to I like bikes | 2 years ago
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Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it's your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

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hawkinspeter replied to Mungecrundle | 2 years ago
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Mungecrundle wrote:

Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it's your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

I'm not convinced on that pair of shoes for cycling with though. Probably fine for pootling around, but the stack height would throw off your bike's geometry a bit.

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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I hear he's a bit of a demon (mountain) biker although at least for MTB I think he wears flatter shoes.

What has The Rules got to say about stockings though?

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hawkinspeter replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

I hear he's a bit of a demon (mountain) biker although at least for MTB I think he wears flatter shoes.

What has The Rules got to say about stockings though?

I think stockings would be banned by UCI just on height alone.

I like his comment on gravel bikes being the Lib Dems of cycling.

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Captain Badger replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

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I'm not convinced on that pair of shoes for cycling with though. Probably fine for pootling around, but the stack height would throw off your bike's geometry a bit.

But you could raise the saddle to compensate

Are the cleats embedded into the sole to make them more practical? or is that why the sole is so thick?

 

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