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hirsute wrote:

https://twitter.com/WorldBollard/status/1498244871257300997

Thank you. I've been trying to tell them that for some time now - always use a tank!

Really, really bad all round vision for the driver.

A good one - but alas exactly this - and the usual military disregard (e.g. what health and safety, soldiers up for days on exercise etc.) has lead to some horrific deaths - US troops in Korea for one.

mdavidford wrote:

Judging by the various reports on the state of the place, it seems like it's more likely that the Houses of Parliament would set your ebike on fire than the other way around.

I can certainly see why the House authorities might take a risk averse approach to anything that could possibly start a fire.  The whole building is a health and safety nightmare.

mdavidford wrote:

Judging by the various reports on the state of the place, it seems like it's more likely that the Houses of Parliament would set your ebike on fire than the other way around.

Or the people in it perhaps, with the raging inferno in the PM's trousers?

eburtthebike wrote:

mdavidford wrote:

Judging by the various reports on the state of the place, it seems like it's more likely that the Houses of Parliament would set your ebike on fire than the other way around.

Or the people in it perhaps, with the raging inferno in the PM's trousers?

Don't fall for his lines, eburtthebike, the rumour is he's all mouth.

chrisonatrike wrote:

Or the people in it perhaps, with the raging inferno in the PM's trousers?

Don't fall for his lines, eburtthebike, the rumour is he's all mouth.

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But his pants are always on fire!

Steve K wrote:

Another Kyiv cyclist

https://twitter.com/LiorSteinberg/status/1497660942418681858

I've always held that cyclists are the most dangerous things on the road - clear evidence (if t'were needed) of the war on motorists

That's more like it, clearly a "purposeful journey" being made there. No doubt people will be on to decry the lack of panniers and disk brakes though. Maybe Europe / NATO should be supplying some more suitable types? (For territorial defense a paratrooper model is probably less necessary).

I'd really rather not 

mark1a wrote:

"But that cyclist is in the middle of the road. That traffic light is on red. If only they had some kind of registration." (Opens popular internet search engine to investigate scope of Ukraine road tax)

ive already seen the inevitable "f**king cyclists think they own the road even in a f**king war" meme...

Which we do, obs

Bloody cyclists, not making proper journeys (with "lethal and non-lethal aid"), holding up the tanks (yes it's an "armoured vehicle" and I've no idea if it has wing mirrors or door mirrors but it's all academic if you're armed with a bicycle), should have daylight running lights... At least they were wearing a helmet though.  I'm not sure about the ballistic protection rating though.

Good for them but that's beyond my idea of extreme.  You can be hit by fragmentation, targetted by twitchy soldiers or even just told to get off your bike and go straight to the front to assist.

chrisonatrike wrote:

.....and I've no idea if it has wing mirrors .............

It's a TANK, not  PLANE

Captain Badger wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

.....and I've no idea if it has wing mirrors .............

It's a TANK, not  PLANE

ARMOURED CAR. A tank has tracks....

Captain Badger wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

.....and I've no idea if it has wing mirrors .............

It's a TANK, not  PLANE

ARMOURED CAR. A tank has tracks....

Oh dear, I feel another thread on identity and definitions coming on. Where does that leave the lovely Kleines Kettenkraftrad? If we say "but steering wheel" then someone will advance us the initial Mark Is, if we say "enclosed" the response is M18 with open turret. Better let them fight it out.

chrisonatrike wrote:

......If we say "but steering wheel" then someone will advance us the initial Mark Is, if we say "enclosed" the response is M18 with open turret. Better let them fight it out.

I think you'll find most tanks have a pair of sticks, one controlling the left track, one controlling the right, although some do have a yoke

Captain Badger wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

......If we say "but steering wheel" then someone will advance us the initial Mark Is, if we say "enclosed" the response is M18 with open turret. Better let them fight it out.

I think you'll find most tanks have a pair of sticks, one controlling the left track, one controlling the right, although some do have a yoke

I do agree, most tanks.  Also "I know it when I see it" and all, and this is all a big distraction from a) bikes and b) a dictator doing some agressive invading and killing. But since it's also clearly a day of valiant pedant-work here's the Medium Mark A tank courtesy of "The Great War" series and Bovington Tank museum (a little indistinctly):

Captain Badger wrote:

I think you'll find most tanks have a pair of sticks, one controlling the left track, one controlling the right, although some do have a yoke

I've read this several times now, but I still don't get the yoke.

mdavidford wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

I think you'll find most tanks have a pair of sticks, one controlling the left track, one controlling the right, although some do have a yoke

I've read this several times now, but I still don't get the yoke.

Keep going, I'm sure that you're on the right track....

Captain Badger wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

......If we say "but steering wheel" then someone will advance us the initial Mark Is, if we say "enclosed" the response is M18 with open turret. Better let them fight it out.

I think you'll find most tanks have a pair of sticks, one controlling the left track, one controlling the right, although some do have a yoke

I learned that from watching the Indiana Jones films

If you would like a very enjoyable waste of an afternoon, may I recommend the YouTube channel Inside the Chieftan's Hatch, a real tankers veiws on historical tanks, and using and living with them.  For a tall gent he can get into some very tight spaces.  He is obsessed with track tensioning.

But not at the moment, he researches for World of Tanks, which being a Russian game, I have stopped playing.  My own pathetic little bit.  Though I very rarely ever gave them much money anyhow...

Thanks - I'm aware of him (via ForgottenWeapons - they do a good double-act). Yes - I often wondered how he got there, it seemed to be like something out of South Park. I recall he alluded to "working the system"...

Yeah - track tension, he's like the Jan Heine of tanks...