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Same cycle lane, different driver, same near miss...but The Sun asks "who's in the right?"; Reaction to Ed Laverack's Sa Calobra-conquering KOM; "I started to hyperventilate": Remco relives Liège; One week 'til Giro time + more on the live blog

This time of year is great, isn't it...bank holidays all over the gaff and (sometimes) some nicer weather...Dan Alexander is here to finish of the live blog for before a lovely long weekend...
29 April 2022, 15:40
He's alright is this Van der Poel lad...

What's that? The Giro starts with an uphill finish? Aye, I know a guy... 

29 April 2022, 15:16
How was your commute?
29 April 2022, 14:19
"I’m off for another lie down": Hear from man of the moment Ed Laverack about Sa Calobra KOM
Ed Laverack Strava Sa Calobra

"One thing I’ve learnt today is how valuable taking people along on a journey can mean," Ed told his social media following. "The KOM on Sa Calobra is one thing, training, creating videos, sharing the little details on socials to hopefully help or give people something to relate to somewhere is a massive passion.

> Most competitive Strava segment in the world? Ed Laverack smashes Sa Calobra KOM

"I saw that today. Not just from the folks at the top of the mountain, but the groups of cyclists on the road, asking 'did you do it?' Having no idea who these people were made me slightly emotional, but it makes everything I do so fulfilling and worthwhile.

"Professional cycling isn’t the only way to make a living by doing what I love to do. Right, I’m off for another lie down."

What's next?

29 April 2022, 13:48
All the reaction to The Sun's 'debate'

West Midlands Walking and Cycling Commissioner Adam Tranter provided the most succinct answer to The Sun's "who's in the right?" nonsense..."The give way markings might provide a clue" he suggested...

Don't go bringing common sense to The Sun's 'debate', Adam...

Over on Facebook, Robert Skedgell had the pick of the comments: "One of the most serious problems with the driving theory test is that it's been made easy enough for Sun readers to pass"...

Here in the live blog comments section, kinggill offered some always-appreciated local knowledge: "Before the A38 route was opened, the council announced in the media that cars would have to 'give way' when crossing the cycle route (as if one could ever just swing across the Bristol Road!). It caused fury online as per usual 'causes more pollution for me to idle my engine' etc. It is a great route but always heart-in-the-mouth moments at those junctions; a pity as it's one of the few places in Brum where you can pick up a bit of speed."

brooksby did a good job of summing up how most (all) of us feel: "I honestly don't understand. How is it 'open to debate'?  Cyclist on cycle path, therefore having priority; motorist approaches 'give way' lines. Motorist doesn't give way, either through a conscious decision or because they just weren't looking. Either way, motorist at fault. End of discussion."

While chrisonatrike wondered if the real meaning of The Sun's 'debate' is: "whether cyclists should be allowed anywhere roads - or indeed at all".

29 April 2022, 13:17
Ineos Grenadiers announce line-up for pre-race favourite Richard Carapaz's Giro d'Italia tilt

Talking of The Empire, here's Ineos Grenadiers' line-up for the Giro. Any talk of a Chelsea takeover hasn't materialised in time for Romelu Lukaku to pull on the Lycra...

In full: Richard Carapaz, Richie Porte, Pavel Sivakov, Jhonatan Narváez, British national champ Ben Swift, Jonathan Castroviejo, Salvatore Puccio and exciting British prospect Ben Tulett. 

Thomas Tuchel will be in the team car, with N'Golo Kanté first reserve should anyone drop out...

29 April 2022, 13:12
The Empire grows?
29 April 2022, 11:46
Annemiek van Vleuten suffers broken wrist in training crash

Annemiek van Vleuten will be out of action for the foreseeable having broken her right wrist during a training crash in the Netherlands, Movistar has confirmed. Last Sunday's Liège–Bastogne–Liège winner underwent surgery last night at the Rijnstate Hospital in Arnhem, with no return date yet discussed.

Despite this, the team says Van Vleuten should still be able to be fit in time for the Giro d'Italia Donne and the inaugural Tour de France Femmes, in July.

29 April 2022, 11:43
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29 April 2022, 11:06
"I'm slower than that going down...": Reaction to Ed Laverack's Sa Calobra-conquering KOM

Ed Laverack conquering Sa Calobra was one of those rarest of rare news stories that attracts a universally positive reception. Here's the best of it...

peted76 said: "This is great to see! Ed has been planning a crack at this KOM since before COVID hit and scuppered his plans..Chapeau Ed, what a KOM to have!!"

> Most competitive Strava segment in the world? Ed Laverack smashes Sa Calobra KOM

Over on Facebook, Colin Worth commented: "Not bad, I stop to take photos, otherwise I’d expect to be pretty close to that, we’ll never know though." Wouldn't we all...

Paul Winchcombe came to the painful realisation Ed's time is more than twice as quick as his Sa Calobra PB, while Ben Williams reckons he was slower going down...

Rob Slack wanted a shout-out. He's on the Strava leaderboard too...just in the bottom 5 per cent. Mark Markowski noted the baguette, coffee and cake at the bottom is the only thing slowing his ascent down. Me and you both, Mark, me and you both...

Mark Williams commented: "Beat me by about 30 mins but he probably does lots of training which, let’s face it, is a bit like cheating."

29 April 2022, 10:29
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29 April 2022, 08:50
"I accidentally switched two teeth smaller instead of bigger": Remco relives Liège–Bastogne–Liège triumph
Remco Evenepoel wins Liege-Bastogne-Liege 2022 (GCN)

A few days on from his breakthrough Monument success, Remco Evenepoel sat down with Belgian media outlet Sporza to talk through his triumph, including his accidentally high cadence and post-race hyperventilating. 

"I accidentally switched two teeth smaller instead of bigger. That caused panic for a while, because my cadence was very high," the Belgian sensation said of his thermonuclear attack...

 "I had a day like the time trial in Algarve. I didn't really hear anything around me because I was so in the zone. Only what they said in my ear came to me. The only thing I felt and heard was when I saw my trainer Koen Pelgrim standing on top. Only at that moment did I look away from the road. He was screaming like the other supporters.

"But I just didn't realise what was happening in the last 200 meters. You can ask my family: I was really hyperventilating after the finish."

29 April 2022, 08:40
Work begins on "specialist" mountain bike park in Northampton

The Northampton Chronicle & Echo reports work has started this week to build a mountain bike park on a former golf course. The site, west of Brackmills Industrial Estate, opened for work on Monday to build the Northampton Bike Park where the former Hard Nine golf course stood. Shredding dirt is the new golf, apparently.

The plans include: A multi-user green trail – an easy, dual-direction cycle route across the site, connecting Houghton Hill to the underpass for the A45. Blue (moderate), red (difficult) and black (severe) off-road mountain bike trails for different abilities - dual tracks will allow head-to-head riding. Five gathering spots where riders can meet to discuss the next section of track, and coaching can be provided. A mountain bike skills area.

"This will be an outstanding facility," Cllr Lizzy Bowen said. "We know there are many people in the local area and the mountain biking community who can’t wait to see it up and running. This project continues our work to make Northampton a town fit for the 21st century, with opportunities for everyone in the area to live their best lives."

29 April 2022, 07:54
Same cycle lane, different driver, same near miss...but The Sun asks "who’s in the right?"

Yesterday's live blog featured the video of a cyclist using the A38 cycle lane in Birmingham, with its lane-crossing turnings and not-looking motorists...

The clip was fairly uncontroversial, I don't think that's up for debate. A cyclist riding along the route was forced to brake hard after a driver, coming from the left, didn't check to see if anything was coming and pulled out across the rider's path. A fairly common occurrence for anyone who uses a bicycle to negotiate the UK's road network, unfortunately.

The Sun newspaper did not see it that way...

We really didn't want to give their social post the slightest air of promotion, so here's a picture of it instead (with Jeremy Vine's thoughts on the "but who's in the right?" ridiculousness)...

Amongst the replies: someone who thought the cyclist was riding the wrong way down a one-way street (no, really), "It's a horrible thing to have to say but in this instance the cyclist is absolutely 100% in the right", and this handy advice...

But that wasn't the end of matters as, in reply to Vine, another rider who has footage from the very same Birmingham cycle lane, said he'd "nearly died there" yesterday afternoon.

It seems running the gauntlet of crossing motorists is just part and parcel of using this infrastructure...

In the words of yesterday's cyclist: "Even when you think you're cycling in a safe place, there are drivers around to show you, you never are." 

29 April 2022, 08:14
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Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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ktache | 1 year ago
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CyclingMikey has put the Frank lampard video up on his YouTube channel, don't know if it had been mentioned before, I hadn't noticed anyway.

Very short bit of lawbreaking for a Mikey vid, but if he hadn't been able to employ our favourite troll's favourite safety campaigner, he'd have been banged to rights.

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Rendel Harris replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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ktache wrote:

Very short bit of lawbreaking for a Mikey vid, but if he hadn't been able to employ our favourite troll's favourite safety campaigner, he'd have been banged to rights.

Though it wasn't actually a triumph for Mr Poophole as the CPS decided to drop it before it reached court, saying they couldn't prove that he was using the 'phone for "interactive communication." Under the changes in the law that wouldn't matter of course, the clear proof that he had it in his hand would suffice. A ridiculous decision in any case, surely the fact that he was driving with coffee in one hand and 'phone in the other should be enough for a "without due care and attention" charge, regardless of whether he was actually communicating. 

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mdavidford | 1 year ago
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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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This one could appear as double near miss of the day.

NSL, blind bend, chevron signs, SLOW on the road.

M/c easily doing 50, car driver 25-30

I am just left of centre lane.

Brown trouser moment all round

 

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kil0ran replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Ooof. There's a short section on my regular ride where I have to join the A338 (single carriageway, 40mph limit). S bend, double whites. 4 cars overtook me and I was doing an easy 18mph this morning. It's the same every time. I've even had them overtake me when I'm driving and sitting behind a cyclist. MGIF

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Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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RE Remco - did he go down two teeth at the front or up two at the rear?

And my countdown for the Giro is 14 days! Got to get through my niece's wedding the day before in York, drive through the night and fly to Ancona at 6.30 Sunday morning.  The things we do for fun!

 

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nosferatu1001 replied to Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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I assume if it was a "high" cadence it was two down at the front 😊

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andystow replied to nosferatu1001 | 1 year ago
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I doubt he's trying to be that technical. "Two teeth smaller" probably just means two gears lower, which could be 2-4 more teeth on the back.

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IanGlasgow replied to Daveyraveygravey | 1 year ago
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I once went round a corner too fast; when I got up again I was 4 teeth lighter. Is that what he meant?

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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Interesting long read in the Gadurian

‘It’s just more and more lanes’: the Texan revolt against giant new highways

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/29/texas-highway-expansions...

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Texas, with its wide-laned roads and supersized highways, seems like an unlikely place for a rebellion against the supremacy of American car culture.

But last week a band of residents from across Texas descended upon the state’s department of transportation (DoT) to voice fury over new highway expansions that are set to displace thousands of people and raze hundreds of businesses, schools and churches. Meanwhile, the state is actively crushing local plans to encourage more cycling and walking as an alternative to driving.

 

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hawkinspeter replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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brooksby wrote:

Interesting long read in the Gadurian

‘It’s just more and more lanes’: the Texan revolt against giant new highways

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/29/texas-highway-expansions...

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Texas, with its wide-laned roads and supersized highways, seems like an unlikely place for a rebellion against the supremacy of American car culture.

But last week a band of residents from across Texas descended upon the state’s department of transportation (DoT) to voice fury over new highway expansions that are set to displace thousands of people and raze hundreds of businesses, schools and churches. Meanwhile, the state is actively crushing local plans to encourage more cycling and walking as an alternative to driving.

That sounds like just the logical conclusion of designing cities and transport around personal cars. It's inevitable that high population densities will just require more and more road space.

However, with it being Texas, I do wonder whether racism is a motivator as well

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Ramirez said repeated expansions of highways in Houston have invariably destroyed homes in Black and Latino neighborhoods like his. “All of these Black and brown neighborhoods are being attacked by this expansion,” he said. “I should be able to enjoy being Mexican in Houston in 2022 without somebody trying to push me out of my neighborhood.”

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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But "guardian ... leftist propaganda ... " etc.  Aside from "yes that's the kind of thing they may pick up on" it is interesting to me that even Texans are starting to say "enough".

For transport infrastructure from the perspective of financial sustainability NotJustBikes has you covered:

Getting about Houston is barely possible without a car - even for short distances

The capacity and financial folly of adding more roads (Canada)

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Patrick9-32 replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Texas, out of all the places in the world I have driven which admittedly is not a representative sample but includes a lot of north america and europe, is the place I think I would be least likely to get on a bike. Not only are the roads designed only with cars in mind but the drivers, in my experience, are some of the most aggressive around.

I quickly learned not to try to indicate when changing lanes on the highway as, without fail, the driver behind would close the gap you were planning to move into as soon as your indicator went on. 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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Texas supplies the most oil for America so don't want to encourage anything that would reduce their "honeypot". 

 

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andystow replied to Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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I was in Seguin, Texas for work a couple of years ago. From my hotel, I wanted to walk to a restaurant that was 0.6 miles away. It was over a two mile drive, but since the hotel was basically on a highway on-ramp I ended up driving it.

Google Maps walking directions suggested a 1.8 mile route.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to andystow | 1 year ago
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NotJustBikes on Youtube has a massive amount to state about American designs to accomodate cars and the inability to walk within 1 mile of a hotel to anywhere else safely in some places. 

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kil0ran replied to andystow | 1 year ago
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Not just the US. In Melbourne pre-pandemic for work and it took me 20 mins to walk 300 yds from my hotel to a restaurant. Top of St Kilda Rd by Albert Park. Ended up getting Deliveroo the next night. Two tram lines, four lanes of traffic, and three pedestrian crossings. Just awful design

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Eton Rifle replied to andystow | 1 year ago
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Yes, same here. I tried to walk to a restaurant from the my hotel on a business trip to the USA. All of half a mile. Hotel receptionist recommended I drive. I could see why.

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OldRidgeback replied to Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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Patrick9-32 wrote:

Texas, out of all the places in the world I have driven which admittedly is not a representative sample but includes a lot of north america and europe, is the place I think I would be least likely to get on a bike. Not only are the roads designed only with cars in mind but the drivers, in my experience, are some of the most aggressive around.

I quickly learned not to try to indicate when changing lanes on the highway as, without fail, the driver behind would close the gap you were planning to move into as soon as your indicator went on. 

Texas has one of the worst records for road safety of any US state. It has the highest rate of driving uder the influence of any US state. The NHTSA website has a full breakdown of the stats. It is not a place I'd choose to cycle.

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Jetmans Dad replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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The States is just so screwy in so many ways when it comes to car culture that a facepalm doesn't even cover it. 

Some friends of mine were travelling there a few years ago, and stayed a couple of nights in a self catering place (I forget which state but I think it was in the South somewhere) situated right by the roadside (not a freeway, I don't think, just the equivalent of a large dual carriageway in this country). 

Almost immediately across the road was a large supermarket and, wanting to get some food, they decided to cross over and take a look. They were stopped by the receptionist who informed them they couldn't cross the road there because of the jaywalking laws, and there wasn't anywhere they could cross legitimately nearby.

The only way to access the supermarket legally was to drive 2 miles down the road to the next junction, take the exit, two left turns to come back the other way and in. Leaving the supermarket then meant a 3 mile drive down the other side of the road to the previous exit, cross over and come back. 

A 10 mile drive was literally the only legal alternative to a 200m walk across the road. In. San. I. Ty. 

They got pizza delivered instead. 

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Miller replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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I've been in Dallas Tx a few times for work, most recently in 2019. On the Sunday I hired a bike and went for a ride, off to the NW of the Frisco area. It's flat and dry and once you're away from urbanisation the roads were close to deserted. The bigger roads were very wide. You know, it wasn't too bad. Drivers were polite, inasmuch as I had any interaction with them, though intersections were a little alarming just by being so BIG. OTOH the roads are very straight and long and windy so although I had a decent ride, it really wasn't the most scenic area. I did see a small handful of other road riders so there is something of a scene there.

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Creakingcrank replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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More defence of Texas (for cycling, not politics). I rode all the way across it once, as part of big bike trip in the U.S.. I thought it was amazing. Away from the cities there was so little traffic that drivers would wave to each other (and to me) as a matter of course.

Some parts are so barren that all you could see was a straight road going from horizon to horizon and flat scrubland in every other direction. Not the most thrilling landscape, but for someone like me who grew up in the UK it was like nothing I had ever experienced before.  Other parts, such as Big Bend national park, are genuinely spectacular.

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP replied to Creakingcrank | 1 year ago
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I remember the first time I went to Australia, I got chatting (in the airport) with an Australian who was returning home after many years living in Europe. he told me that after Europe, going to Australia would be like 'putting the lights on'. Not is any socio - political sense but just in terms of size and expanse. 

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AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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On a similar note, I was approaching the A34 Cycle path here on my way home Wednesday. The turning from the main road has been "blocked" for 18 months and since the Streetview, official bollards and fixed signs have been put in place rather then the temp barriers and signs. I was at the spot shown when a Taxi pulled in on the wrong side, and barged over the Ped crossing which had two people using it at the time. It is with the local rozzers but I won't know if actioned. So who was in the right..... you decide?

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kinggill | 1 year ago
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Before the A38 route was opened, the council announced in the media that cars would have to 'give way' when crossing the cycle route (as if one could ever just swing across the Bristol Road!). It caused fury online as per usual "causes more pollution for me to idle my engine" etc. It is a great route but always heart-in-the-mouth moments at those junctions; a pity as it's one of the few places in Brum where you can pick up a bit of speed.

 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to kinggill | 1 year ago
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I remember a similar argument for this section of the A34 one. Car driver was predicting deaths because a car coming off the 40mph central section would have to negotiate traffic coming down from the island, the buses AND the cyclists if they wanted to take the left turn. Not the cyclists deaths mind, the drivers deaths because they would be forced to slow down so much.......

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hawkinspeter replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I remember a similar argument for this section of the A34 one. Car driver was predicting deaths because a car coming off the 40mph central section would have to negotiate traffic coming down from the island, the buses AND the cyclists if they wanted to take the left turn. Not the cyclists deaths mind, the drivers deaths because they would be forced to slow down so much.......

That's reminded me of this scene from Expanse Series 3 (blood, gore and spoiler warning): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGmTZeiCmJY

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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I honestly don't understand.  How is it 'open to debate'?  Cyclist on cycle path, therefore having priority; motorist approaches 'give way' lines.  Motorist doesn't give way, either through a conscious decision or because they just weren't looking.  Either way, motorist at fault  End of discussion.

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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The "debate" is whether cyclists should be allowed anywhere roads - or indeed at all.

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brooksby replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

The "debate" is whether cyclists should be allowed anywhere roads - or indeed at all.

You joke, but there's a regular commenter on the Bristol Post BTL who insists that bicycles should be banned...

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