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Welcome to Yorkshire! Frightening moment Tour of Britain pros narrowly avoid crash with sheep on fast descent; Puncturegate: Adam Blythe denies "insinuating Remco was cheating"; New Transport Secretary; Roglič abandons injured + more on the live blog

It's Wednesday and Dan Alexander will be trying his best to remember how to do one of these.....
07 September 2022, 16:01
Rigoberto Urán wins stage 17 of La Vuelta

It was a breakaway day in Spain and surprise of all surprises...Fred Wright was involved.

Unfortunately, yes I'm biased, today was not Wright's day either, nor was it teammate and breakaway companion Gino Mäder's day. Instead, Rigoberto Urán earned EF Education-EasyPost their second Grand Tour win of the year...

Behind, Quentin Pacher and Jesús Herrada rounded out the stage podium. Little change in the GC group other a few seconds so no big loser on today's stage...other than this cameraman who caught his own moment of misfortune on live television...

07 September 2022, 15:24
Welcome to the club...
07 September 2022, 14:40
Tour of Britain: Gonzalo Serrano outsprints Tom Pidcock to stage four victory

After Tom Pidcock's original escape was closed down by Jake Stewart of the GB team, the Ineos all-rounder launched another shot, following Gonzalo Serrano's kick up the final hill of the day, taking teammate Omar Fraile and Dylan Teuns (once again) with him...

In the sprint, the Spaniard's low-key day in the bunch showed as he beat the trio of riders who'd all been off the front at some point in the previous 150km. In true Tour of Britain fashion nobody's quite sure who is in the race lead... 

07 September 2022, 13:49
BERG

Well, that looked disgusting...

If you want your legs to hurt without riding a bike, go check out Omar Fraile's lead-out and multiple accelerations on the 10 per cent lower slopes. 

07 September 2022, 13:36
Dozens of riders join cortège for funeral of Rab Wardell
07 September 2022, 13:00
Welcome to Yorkshire! Frightening moment Tour of Britain cyclists narrowly avoid crash with sheep on fast descent

How hard is the Tour of Britain, by the way? When the riders aren't smashing up the grippiest of grippy roads, being battered by headwinds and torrential downpours, they have to keep their wits about them to avoid any unwanted streakers...or should I say sheepers? Nah, that's terrible...I apologise...

Thankfully, Matt Stephens on commentary left the horrendous puns (not sure that even qualifies as a pun to be honest) to me, saying: "Oh that was a close one, that's one of the hazards of riding in the North Yorkshire Moors".

> "Giving it the absolute beans!": Kid smashes up climb with Tour of Britain breakaway

Another of the hazards is leg-breaking savage climbs, talking of which it's not long until the riders to tackle Carlton Bank (2km at 10 per cent, with a 30 per cent ramp near the top)...get your sneaky ITV player/GCN+ on at work for this one...

07 September 2022, 11:46
"The unfortunate part of it was it was released on its own, because driving had dropped 23 per cent and train use had dropped 47 per cent": Chris Boardman discusses drop in cycling levels with Transport Committee

> Cycling levels dropped in England because "short-sighted councils pulled out protected lanes", Cycling UK says 

Chris Boardman appeared at the Transport Committee to talk all things active travel, including addressing last week's announcement of figures from the Department for Transport as part of its National Travel Survey, which showed the average person in England made only two percent of all their trips by bike between November 2020 and November 2021, while the average number of trips made by bike dropped to 15, down from a high of 20 the previous year.

Boardman offered some context, seen in the video above, to the figures which, when viewed alone, offered a different picture to when they were viewed in isolation...

07 September 2022, 11:27
How has Anne-Marie Trevelyan's appointment Transport Secretary been received?

AA President Edmund King welcomed the new transport minister to her position with a ten-point plan of priorities, including at number one, "make UK roads safer — promote vision zero deaths and set targets. Improve rural roads, cycling, pedestrian safety."

As EnjoyTheRide pointed out in the comments there is also this in Trevelyan's back catalogue of tweets...

"Well, at least the new Transport Secretary has included a cycle in her line of emojis," Steve K added...

Right, yep, that's us...right next to the rocket...it seems bus and rail travel didn't make the cut...that'll show Mick Lynch... 

EDIT: Rail did get a mention... on that top row of emojis I must have missed...no sign of the bus... I guess two emojis will turn up at the same time...

07 September 2022, 10:59
Come to Britain they said, it will be fun they said...

While the Vuelta peloton cooked in the sun of a post-rest day jaunt though the south of Spain, the poor Tour of Britain riders got a most British welcome to the north of England...

I bet Richie Porte can't wait to get back to sunny Tassie with his feet up...

07 September 2022, 10:13
Photo of the day/week/month/year
07 September 2022, 10:00
Zwift launches a turbo! The new Zwift Hub trainer

If you missed yesterday's big news in the world of indoor training...

> Zwift launches its own Hub smart trainer for £449

Some of your reaction from Facebook: "Direct drive trainer for £449. Either it's not that great, or it could be great and shows how much the likes of Wahoo etc are over charging as it's the same price as their wheel-on trainer. Fingers crossed it is and makes Zwift more accessible," Anthony Walstow commented.

07 September 2022, 09:01
Anne-Marie Trevelyan appointed Transport Secretary
07 September 2022, 08:56
Primož Roglič withdraws from Vuelta a España after stage 16 crash

There it is. Confirmation that Primož Roglič's rotten luck continues. Second on GC, 1:26 behind Remco Evenepoel and the Slovenian abandons. Juan Ayuso jumps up to third place, giving Spain a decent chance of two podium places, unless something quite ridiculous happens and they nab all three. Enric Mas is the race's new second-placed rider, Ayuso third, Ineos Grenadiers' Carlos Rodríguez is fourth.

07 September 2022, 08:51
Did Remco ride puncture into 3km safe zone?

Puncturegate is the gift that keeps on giving...

Translation of the tweet (the Spanish one, not Carlton's...): "My feeling is that Remco punctured long before the 3km finish line banner. He begins to lose positions 6.9km from the end, 5km from the finish line he already has more than 60 riders ahead and he never reappears in the first positions..."

07 September 2022, 07:53
Puncturegate: Adam Blythe denies "insinuating Remco was cheating" after roadside video proves Evenepoel's "convenient" flat tyre

Funny how when you're literally paid to tell a TV audience your opinion on a professional bike race people will almost certainly still have a go at you for doing so...

Ex-pro and GCN presenter Adam Blythe risked the wrath of Belgium yesterday evening after questioning the mechanical which prompted race leader Remco Evenepoel to pull over, just as Primož Roglič launched a stinging attack and raced off into the distance. The red jersey was within 3km to go so got the same time as the group he was in at the time of the mechanical, leaving Blythe to question — based purely on the less-than-obvious TV pictures — what exactly the problem was?

> Adam Blythe clocks 136km/h

The handy clip from the show, posted on Twitter before everything blew up, has since been deleted... so here's a quick run-down of what Blythe said: "I really want to see that bike of Remco's to see what the problem was. He's not crashed, both wheels to me look like they were pumped up, if his gears [chain] have gone into his spokes or derailleur and he can't pedal, yes it's a mechanical, but that's something you can help... I would like to see that bike to see what the problem was..."

Pushed further by host Orla Chennaoui on whether Remco was out to "limit his losses" by "claiming a mechanical", Blythe clarified "I'm not suggesting that [...] it's just all a little bit too convenient." Seeing the footage back, he continued: "Both wheels are pumped up [which, in fairness, did look to be the case on the TV images] he's pedalling the bike fine, so what is the problem with it?"

Remco's post-race interview followed, with the explanation that he'd punctured, but by now it wasn't just Blythe questioning the claim, and cycling fans globally took to social media to search for evidence of this phantom puncture...

As it turned out it wasn't phantom after all. A short while later, this video appeared, seeming to show a slow rear flat...

Presumably now on his evening commute, Blythe posted a video message clearing up the post-stage events, saying he'd now seen the footage showing the flat (much clearer than on the original TV pictures)..."That back tyre, clear enough for me to say that it was a flat tyre, so anyone trying to tell me that I was insinuating Remco's cheating... I am not [...] I was saying what I could see, and it didn't look like a flat tyre."

Phew... more drama after stage 16 than pretty much the entire 189km day out... lesson learnt, eh Adam? Don't go giving opinions when analysing bike races...(sorry, if you heard that it was just the live blog sarcasm alarm going off again, I must work out how to switch that off)... 

07 September 2022, 08:22
Oh, and here's the social media pile-in...

For a good 15 minutes suspicion reigned, amateur detectives scoured the footage... while everyone else took to the blue bird app...

God forbid I ever get the live blog masses on me for saying something I shouldn't. Then again, it's probably more likely to be something totally un-cycling-related that does it for me... like what's the best jam tart (blackcurrant) or questioning why seemingly everyone in the world wants to queue to get on the plane first? 

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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OldRidgeback | 1 year ago
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That descent on the Toure of Britain is a bit 'meh'

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Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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Would someone kindly explain what a 'PBU' is and why it gets thrown around like its common parlance.
Any chance we can all be in on it?

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Hirsute replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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It's a common term on any forum. Previously or Permanently Banned User.

It doesn't get thrown around, only directly to people who show the same style and terminology of previous banned users and after a period of interaction. I'd say there are 2 PBUs on here at the moment.

 

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Rendel Harris replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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Previously Banned User - in this case we had Nigel Garage, who changed his username a minimum seven times before leaving the site (apparently of his own volition) and having all his comments deleted. He then resurfaced as Great Eastern before being banned for misogynist, racist and libellous comments. Enjoy The Ride has exactly the same agenda, the same obsessions, the same style and even (though he's trying to be careful about giving too much away this time) a number of identical personal details.

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Oldfatgit replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Hirsute @ Rendel Harris ...

Thank you for the definition.

I'd never heard of it and I've been using forums since the USNET and ICQ days ... well before the days of social media, and the heady days of dial-up.
This is also the only place where I have seen PBU used with any degregatory meaning.
 

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Hirsute replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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Dunno really, I have used it elsewhere before I even heard of road.cc so surprised you haven't heard it

I'd say troll gets thrown around too much though and too often seems to indicate disagreement but without elucidation.

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Flintshire Boy replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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A Road.cc 'troll' is someone who dares to have a different opinion to Trendy a and the like.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Flintshire Boy | 1 year ago
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A troll can describe people who deliberately post in weird styles and only ever post to criticise the board and/or other posters constantly (even after posting people shouldn't do that type of thing themselves).

They can also troll by doxing, posting racist or sexist comments, inflamatory comments or shit-ass conspiracy theories and they normally become PBU's. As you seem to stand up for the PBU's alot, can I ask did you support Nigels, racism, sexism or his consiracy theory outpourings?

 

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chrisonabike replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I have seen posts from that account which do seem to relate to the subject under discussion rather than just the comments. Not many, true.

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IanMSpencer replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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I've been around since before the Internet on Compu$erve and other bulletin boards and this is the only place I've been conscious of its use (and I seem to recall it was not an easy term to Google either)

On the other hand, I don't feel to bad. We had a youngster join our ride with a VERY creaky bike which I diagnosed as being "in need of TLC". Apparently that's ol' folks talk as he didn't have a clue what I meant!

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Hirsute replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/PBU

(define PBU forums)

I've been using it for 15 years and I'm not young either !

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mark1a replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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While we're on the matter of TLAs (three letter acronyms), what's BTL as used here please?

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BalladOfStruth replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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From what I can gather, it means "below the line" and just means "comment section".

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mark1a replied to BalladOfStruth | 1 year ago
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Ah OK, thanks. 

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Hirsute replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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Bacon Tomato Lettuce
I was going to ask this myself and if squirrels like any of those.

 

I did a bit of googling and I think it means Below The Line - something along the lines of the journalist piece or blog and the responses to it which appear below it.

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IanMSpencer replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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TBH(!) I first came across it on the Grauniad. They then use ATL for above the line - the main article.

The distinction is between professional journalism (hence you won't see it used at the DM) and comments made with all the reliability of an anonymous Internet pundit.

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Awavey replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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"Aol" Me too "/Aol"

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Flintshire Boy replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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Explain terms so that you can be in on it?

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Nah, this is a private club, where if you need terms explained then you clearly do not belong in the club.

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Welcome to the echo chamber!

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Hirsute replied to Flintshire Boy | 1 year ago
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If you had bothered to read anything, you would have seen the question was answered very quickly. I guess that doesn't fit your agenda.

Oh and if you head over to the ped/cyclist collision you will see a variety of opinions.

Do you post anything about cycling ever?

 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Flintshire Boy | 1 year ago
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Is your dots trying to indicate echos? Is that why you have posted them all this time? Are you so lonely you have to pretend to be your own echo chamber?

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Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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To those coming into the live blog comments after work to see some interesting discussion, don't bother scrolling down. Its just trolls getting exactly what they want down there. 

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Dogless | 1 year ago
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Those bloody self driving cars at it again in York.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/21124014.cyclist-injured-crash-car-near...

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Patrick9-32 replied to Dogless | 1 year ago
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Apparently after the car hit the cyclist the car decided to drive away. Amazing. 

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AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Re Updates on Transport Sec.

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Right, yep, that's us...right next to the rocket...it seems bus and rail travel didn't make the cut...that'll show Mick Lynch...

Unless the first emoji is something different, isn't that meant to be rail? Correct on buses missing but then she probably hasn't done public transport herself for quite awhile. 

I beleive she has added rockets as she must be a big believer in Musk and his commercial rockets scheme. Pretty sure it is another one of his claims that was supposed to be already in place by 2022 as well. 

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stonojnr replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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The UK has a space agency,is building a space port and the dept for transport are actively engaging in setting up the regulations and licensing regime for it.

As for Musk, the rocket in the Verge article is expected to launch to orbit before the end of the year.

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chrisonabike replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Ah yes.  An intensive technology has caused problems - an even more intensive technology to the rescue!  (This is indeed how we think about the history of technology however).

Does anyone have examples of the opposite e.g. where "little and often" and "try the simple changes you already know about first" have worked at persuading lots of people? They don't tend to be popular choices when applied to ourselves.  Where people have embraced an existing but simpler / more decentralised technology?

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Dan Alexander replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Right you are, missed the top row of emojis!

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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take it everyone watched the Work of Active England at the transport committee session, the MPs mentioned cycling registrations & red light jumping... enlightened

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Steve K | 1 year ago
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Well, at least the new Transport Secretary has included a cycle in her line of emojis.

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IanMK replied to Steve K | 1 year ago
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....and it's just after the space rocket

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