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"That saddle has stories to tell": Horrified bike shop would "really rather not find out" if battered "single speed... maybe with multiple cadence options" still works; Pogačar skinsuitgate + more on the live blog

These sunny post-bank holiday mid-Giro four-day weeks are quite nice, aren't they? Dan Alexander is on live blog duty again today for all your news, reaction and more...

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08 May 2024, 08:08
"That saddle has stories to tell": Horrified bike shop would "really rather not find out" if battered "single speed... maybe with multiple cadence options" still works

We'll have to get this in for Stu or one of the team to review... introducing Trench Tales Instagram account's latest mind-boggling example of bicycle abuse... it's a single speed (but maybe with multiple cadence options)...

Have a flick through the photos and that grimace on your face will become more pronounced with every click, the lack of derailleur, the dropouts just about clinging on, the saddle, the tyres... as the long-suffering mechanics behind Trench Tales told their followers (who you should join the ranks of for more 'your bike hates you' content direct to your Insta feed): "Single speed... maybe with multiple cadence options? With those flimsy, flaring dropouts, I'd really rather not find out. Also... sweet saddle."

Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)

Naturally, the comments brought us some comic relief in this sad tale of neglect.

great_hoof: "I'd say the removal of derailleurs is the best thing going for that bike."

boldwon: "That saddle has stories to tell."

rbicilife: "Her Highness the Imperial Mess."

A bit of WD40 and some new brake pads and it'll be as good as new... maybe... probably not...

Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)

Trench Tales does the noble job of documenting bicycle abuse so the rest of us remember to take better care of our bikes. You wouldn't want to end up the butt of internet jokes, would you?

The rust might not be as prominent as the famous Tetanus Express that made us wince last year...

Rusty bike (@trench_tales/Instagram)

Nor the rubber quite as worn as the impossibly worn tyre that earned bike shop visitor a standing ovation from mechanics... after he only came in "for a tube"...

Worn tyre (@trench_tales/Instagram)

But having to change gear by manoeuvring the chain using your fingers, while moving, if the rear wheel doesn't just fall out the dropouts first, earns this poor bicycle a place in our live blog pantheon of mechanical misery. Alternatively, maybe it works really well and we'll soon all be doing it in the search of weight savings and less maintenance... hmmmm, maybe...

08 May 2024, 17:22
Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lane? Errr, because there’s a great big zebra crossing pole right in the middle of it
08 May 2024, 15:21
Bravery rewarded as Benjamin Thomas best of four-man escape on Giro's fifth stage

Sprint stage? It should have been, however a four-up attack by Benjamin Thomas, Michael Valgren, Andrea Pietrobon and Enzo Paleni upset the sprinters with a gutsy move late in the day.

Despite some franctic scrambling by the teams with sprint specialists, the quartet had a fairly comfortable gap heading into the closing kilometres, Pietrobon almost pulling off an audacious late attack having sat on for the previous turns. 

However, it was Thomas, the rider whose acceleration kicked the whole move off, who got the final say, powering past Valgren in the final 100m for Cofidis' first win of 2024, but proving it's all about perspective. A first win in eight months is the glass half-empty slant, a third consecutive Grand Tour with a stage win and four at their last three participations the more positive spin on things.

Here's the finish in all its thrilling glory...

The day had begun with Alpecin-Deceuninck pulling hard on the climbs to drop some of the sprinters less gifted on the uphill gradients. Fabio Jakobsen, Tim Merlier, Fernando Gaviria and Caleb Ewan all found themselves chasing back to the peloton.

Ahead of the final climb a crash brought down numerous riders including Michael Woods and Tobias Foss, by that point alarm bells starting to ring for Lidl-Trek, the only sprint team attempting to pull back the escape. While the others tried to play it cool and let the team of yesterday's dominant winner Jonathan Milan's wear themselves out, they all soon piled to the front of the peloton to help, but as riders came and went the gap to the attackers remained consistent.

Pietrobon the only rider to begin to play games, a committed run in to Lucca seeing all four escape the peloton, Thomas leading Valgren, the Team Polti Kometa Italian and Enzo Paleni home. Behind, Milan asserted himself as the strongest sprinter once again, beating Ewan, Phil Bauhaus, Olav Kooij and Merlier. No changes on GC. Tomorrow it's time to hit the gravel...

08 May 2024, 13:28
British Cycling gym record broken as Matt Rotherham squats 250kg

Track cyclist Matt Rotherham has squated a quarter of a tonne, breaking the British Cycling gym record in the process.

Fair play to the cameraman for maintaining such stable camerawork despite being attacked by a wasp midway through the rep. Here's the lucky SystemSix that gets to put up with all that power when Matt rides on the road.

Perfect timing considering we took a deep dive into the model for our Bike at Bedtime last night. Can what was billed as "the world's fastest road bike" still cut it? 

08 May 2024, 14:34
Pedestrian jailed for manslaughter over cyclist's death has conviction overturned
08 May 2024, 13:11
Iain Duncan Smith calls for creation of "causing death by dangerous, careless, or inconsiderate cycling" law
08 May 2024, 11:18
What's Tadej wearing today?

Race leader's jersey, team-issue Pissei shorts (the same colour as maglia rosa to please the UCI), no skinsuit, no rogue colours, sock length checked. Everyone happy?

08 May 2024, 10:55
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08 May 2024, 10:49
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08 May 2024, 10:03
Debates around tougher legislation for cyclists front and centre of broadcast and print media coverage

Newspaper column inches and airtime of TV and radio talk shows is being put to cycling this week, specifically calls for cyclists to be subject to stricter legislation. We'll have more on that later, campaigners and politicians have made a renewed argument for changes to the law, but The Times, The Telegraph, Times Radio, Good Morning Britain and Talk TV have all got involved in the past 24 hours.

It all comes after the news story from the bank holiday weekend, a coroner's inquest told that no charges will be brought against a cyclist who was riding laps of London's Regent's Park when he crashed into a pensioner, causing her fatal injuries.

Outer Circle near Hanover Terrace (via Google Street View)

> No charges brought against Regent's Park cyclist after high-speed crash in which pensioner was killed while crossing road

This was the scene in Regent's Park this morning.

Meanwhile, on Good Morning Britain this morning, long-time campaigner for 'dangerous cycling' laws Matthew Briggs (husband of Kim Briggs, killed by cyclist Charlie Alliston who was sentenced to 18 months' detention in a youth offenders facility after being convicted by a jury at the Old Bailey of "causing bodily harm by wanton and furious driving" in connection with her death when she was struck as she crossed London's Old Street) was joined by the son of the woman who died of her injuries caused in the Regent's Park collision, as they both appealed for stronger legislation against dangerous cycling.

CyclingMikey too appeared on Times Radio in the past hour following an opinion piece, titled 'Cycling used to be cool. Now, too many bike riders are jerks', being published in the newspaper.

08 May 2024, 09:22
Filippo Ganna's 590w for 3:30 + Jonathan Milan's 1,940w sprint... there's no lack of power over at the Giro d'Italia

Filippo Ganna's individual pursuit simulation on the roads to Andora yesterday was 590w average power for three minutes 35 seconds, with an average speed of 52.9km/h... an attack which began with a kilometre of uphill. The Ineos Grenadiers rider's max for the attack was 1,620w, which just so happens to be the average power of stage winner Jonathan Milan's 20-second blitz. Just look at that max power...

Stage five today, from Genoa to Lucca is not dissimilar to yesterday's, almost identical vertical gain (just north of 2,000m over 178km) and front-loaded with climbs to test the sprinters' legs and see if any team wants to make things difficult. On paper, the climbing looks tougher, so maybe the breakaway opportunists will fancy their chances? The problem? 117km of flat or downhill to finish, punctuated by just one three-kilometre lump at 20km to go. 

He did the business for the live blog prediction yesterday, so Milan for me again today...

08 May 2024, 08:47
Make it make sense... Tadej Pogačar threatened with disqualification from Giro d'Italia over Castelli's maglia rosa skinsuit

Just another bizarre chapter in the history of professional cycling, the Giro d'Italia's leader Tadej Pogačar yesterday reverted to black shorts after the UCI threatened him with disqualification from the race over an alleged infringement to the governing body's rules to do with the colour of his skinsuit... yes, that's the race leader's skinsuit, made by Castelli, not even his own team's kit.

Tadej Pogačar shorts Giro d'Italia (Eurosport)

Contrary to some suggestions, the shorts area wasn't the same colour as the points classification ciclamino, seen here on Filippo Fiorelli before stage three, but in fact granata in tribute to the Torino football team killed in the Superga air disaster on 4 May 1949, of which the 75th anniversary just passed as the race began in Turin on Saturday.

Tadej Pogačar Giro d'Italia 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]

UCI commissaires are believed to have got involved, arguing the skinsuit is in breach of the governing body's rules due to the different colour shorts area to the jersey, and UAE Team Emirates and Pogačar reverted to black team-issue shorts (no skinsuit) for stage four.

A slower kit than a skinsuit, both provided by the race's partner Castelli and not his team's kit manufacturer Pissei, but apparently now abiding by the UCI's rules and not at risk of being chucked out of the race the organisers reportedly paid a hefty fee to get him to attend. Cycling's weird.

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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JohnnyEnglish | 6 months ago
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The way the story on Pogacar's skin suit is written makes no sense at all.

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quiff replied to JohnnyEnglish | 6 months ago
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JohnnyEnglish wrote:

The way the story on Pogacar's skin suit is written makes no sense at all.

To be fair, I think (as the writer says) it's the underlying story that makes no sense - UCI threatens to sanction race leader for colour of skinsuit which was provided by race organisers. 

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JohnnyEnglish replied to quiff | 6 months ago
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Still confused. Why would the pink jersey revert to black?

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quiff replied to JohnnyEnglish | 6 months ago
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The jersey stayed pink. But the bottom half reverted to black, instead of the purple shade that had been made to honour the victims of the plane crash.

The maglia nera on the other hand is (or was?) to the Giro as the Lanterne Rouge is to the Tour.

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JohnnyEnglish replied to quiff | 6 months ago
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Thanks for trying to clarify.

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Dan Alexander replied to JohnnyEnglish | 6 months ago
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Sorry should have clarified the *shorts part* of the skinsuit, not the top half is the UCI's issue, I see what you mean...

The UCI thinks it all should be the same colour as the leader's jersey as per its rules ("The wearer of the leader's jersey shall be entitled to match the colour of his shorts to that of the jersey") so he could wear team shorts or pink shorts matching the maglia rosa colour.

It's all a bit messy though because does a skinsuit have shorts or is it one item of clothing? Does anyone care enough to argue? You might also ask why I didn't just mention all that in the post earlier...

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quiff replied to Dan Alexander | 6 months ago
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I can't believe I've gone down this rabbit hole but, in addition, the UCI Jersey Guidelines for a skinsuit (p116) divide it into two zones - basically the team sponsor panels and the organiser zone. For the organiser zone, it says "the organiser is free of use any design and color for this zone". So perhaps the argument is that it doesn't say colours, plural and so should be all pink - but that would scupper the polka dot KOM jerseys.  

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OnYerBike replied to quiff | 6 months ago
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The underlying story certainly has elements that are confusing, but I must agree with JohnnyEnglish that the way it has been reported here is exponentially more confusing. 

But yes, as far as I can tell the story is:

Pogacar, as current General Classification leader, was wearing the race leader skinsuit provided by the event organiser's kit supplier (Castelli). This is traditionally pink.

The bottom half of the skin suit was not pink. The UCI objected to this.

There had been speculation that the objection was due to potential confusion with the "ciclamino" (mauve) kit allocated to the current Points Classification leader, but that was not the case. Instead, the colour was described as "granata" (pomegranate?), and was intended as a tribute to the disaster mentioned.

The objection appears to have been that kits are required to either be a uniform colour (i.e. all pink), or else be pink on the top and with plain black lower half.

So, to comply with the rules, Pogacar was provided with a pink jersey and black shorts (again, provided by the event organiser's supplier, Castelli).

The UAE Team Emirates' kit supplier, Pissei, were not involved.

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Dan Alexander replied to OnYerBike | 6 months ago
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👏 I'll send you the logins and you can take over after lunch (although it looks like the black shorts were standard team-issue Pissei)

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KDee replied to Dan Alexander | 6 months ago
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How do you pronounce "Pissei"?

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Oldfatgit | 6 months ago
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Shit state bikes ... nothing to be proud of, a liability to the rider and a danger to the rest of us.

Hit someone with a bike in an unroadworthy state and any Public Liability insurance provider is likely to walk away.

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ChrisA replied to Oldfatgit | 6 months ago
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Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They're not precious shiny toys.  Many people can't afford to spend hundreds (thousands !!! ?) on their bike; it's makedo and mend.  If the derailleur can't be fixed, it gets removed. Yes the tyres could probably do with replacing & the inside of the rims checked to see how far the tin worm has got. But if the brakes brake & the steering steers it is probably ok pootling along the road. 

Many people don't have, or can afford, insurance of any kind (assuming that, if they ride this bike they can't afford a car; for which they do need insurance).

I really don't think we need to run down the road screaming "we're all going to die" at this point.

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ChrisA replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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I'm more impressed by the people who take these bikes give them a polish (ie. replace those parts that need replacing) and supply them to people who need them; than the omg brigade.

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KDee replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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It's been a while since I bought insurance in the UK, but here in NL, 92% of adults have liability insurance. Mine is included with my home contents insurance. Is it not included with home insurance in the UK?

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ChrisA replied to KDee | 6 months ago
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It can be, but as I said, there are many people who can't afford (or who choose not to have) any kind of insurance.

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Dnnnnnn replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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ChrisA wrote:

It can be, but as I said, there are many people who can't afford (or who choose not to have) any kind of insurance.

Cyclists' PLI is available for a couple of £ per month - while there will be  people who can't afford that, I suspect the vast majority without it just haven't bothered (more likely because they haven't thought about it than actively opted not to).

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KDee replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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That is a good point. I rented here for about 18 months before buying a place, and didn't bother with home insurance...apartment was rented fully furnished anyway.

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OnYerBike replied to KDee | 6 months ago
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Yes, most (all?) home insurance policies would include public liability insurance. But whilst most home owners have such an insurance policy, many renters will not, so that's a substantial portion of the population without insurance.

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andystow replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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ChrisA wrote:

Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They're not precious shiny toys.  Many people can't afford to spend hundreds (thousands !!! ?) on their bike; it's makedo and mend.  If the derailleur can't be fixed, it gets removed. Yes the tyres could probably do with replacing & the inside of the rims checked to see how far the tin worm has got. But if the brakes brake & the steering steers it is probably ok pootling along the road. 

Many people don't have, or can afford, insurance of any kind (assuming that, if they ride this bike they can't afford a car; for which they do need insurance).

I really don't think we need to run down the road screaming "we're all going to die" at this point.

I have a friend who has her rear canti brake cable disconnected. Apparently it rubs the wheel if reconnected. She's a single mom and doesn't have a lot of money. I've offered multiple times to fix it, but she seems happy with just a front brake. She knows I'm competent as I've done lots of other work for her before on her house, car, lawnmower, etc. for free or for a six pack.

One night we had biked to the same event, and I took advantage of the opportunity when leaving before her to hook the cable up and adjust the tension screws to recentre them. They seemed to operate properly, and I went home. The next day she asked me if I'd done it, because she noticed on the way home that the bike felt really slow and she found the brake hooked up and dragging.

Now I just passive agressively mention when we're on a ride that I hope today isn't the day her front brake fails. Fortunately she's a slow and careful rider, but she's over sixty and won't do well even in a minor crash.

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brooksby replied to ChrisA | 6 months ago
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ChrisA wrote:

Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They're not precious shiny toys.

My commuter is in for a service.  The LBS asked whether I wanted the front brake noodle replacing as it was very rusty - I said check if the rust in on the inside and affecting the cable movement: if not, don't bother.  I'm more concerned on whether it works properly than how well it looks.

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