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Near Miss of the Day 721: “I thought my number was up” says cyclist after bus driver’s shocking overtake

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Greater Manchester...

A cyclist who was subjected to a shockingly dangerous overtake by a bus driver on a country road in Greater Manchester says, “I thought my number was up.”

The footage, shot by road.cc reader Colin, shows the driver of the Warrington-based Cheshire Cat Cat 5 bus overtaking him with very little space to begin with – then braking and pulling across the rider due to a vehicle coming the other way.

It’s notable that following the ultra-close pass on Colin, the bus driver gave the cyclist ahead of him on the road plenty of room when overtaking – although he did so on a bend, where luckily there was nothing approaching from the opposite direction.

“If the bus had the stick out lights in the rear I might have been hit,” Colin told us.

“The guy in front is not known to me and had no idea it was happening, the bus pulled in because of an oncoming car round the bend. When it cleared he still overtook on the bend.

“I reported this both to the police and the bus company who responded and said the driver had been dealt with,” Colin said.

“The police did not respond at all and in fact have not responded to any of my recent incidents,” he added.

> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.

If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).

Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.

> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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nicmason | 2 years ago
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not as bad as the description.

Looks like the bus overtook then pulled in to the gap between the first and second bikes. Is the rider expecting a long sequence of cyclists to be treated like one very long vehicle ?

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mdavidford replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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They're expecting the driver to plan their overtake properly and only carry it out when they can complete it safely - so not when they may have to pull in to a gap that they won't fit in. In other words, to try looking a bit further than 3 feet down the road.

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quiff replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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The gap may have been physically big enough for the bus, but using it involved getting too close to both the first and second cyclists, cutting in and forcing the second cyclist to slow. 

Rule 162 - Before overtaking you should make sure the road is sufficiently clear ahead

Rule 163 - Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake... Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in

Rule 167 - DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example... when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down

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nicmason replied to quiff | 2 years ago
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Rule 999  Lots of rules may be followed imperfectly. look after yourself.

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mdavidford replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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Not particularly relevant in situations where someone tries to do something stupid that you have no control over. Like, say, trying to drive a bus through you.

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Captain Badger replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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nicmason wrote:

Rule 999  Lots of rules may be followed imperfectly. look after yourself.

Well that's alright then... although the rules that we have mentioned Nic were not followed at all. That's kind of the point. Imperfect would be a vast improvement

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chrisonabike replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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nicmason wrote:

Rule 999  Lots of rules may be followed imperfectly. look after yourself.

Ah yes - this is a bit like the "well, rules won't be followed. So stop complaining". As others say - this doesn't just mean that rules are pointless because "humans". What it could indicate is:
 - the rules aren't being enforced or not sufficiently penalised (the risk of detection / cost to those breaking them is negligable)
 - the rules are not known / understood.
 - people know the rules but ignore them - "it's not a real crime". This could be people think they're incorrect or that they clash with social pressures (can't be a slow driver! can't hold up people!) but often it's more that they think they're not relevant enough because of lack of enforcement. There really is an effect of "setting the tone" by authorities.

It's also always a good idea to see if the road infrastructure / vehicle designs help guide behaviour or reinforce the rules - or the opposite. Examples of that would be trying to achieve low speeds with signs on wide straight roads with sweeping gentle turns, or relying on driver observation while permitting vehicles with poor vision on the roads.

However here we've got poor driving in multiple ways despite a) perfect visual and road conditions b) a trained "professional driver" c) ... who's in charge of the safety of their passengers d) with signs (on the road - slow). So we've got to ask wider questions too.  Why is there apparently no response from police?  What are the commercial pressures on the company and how do we incentivise safety (both inside and outside the coach)? What oversight is there by relevant authorities etc.?

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Captain Badger replied to nicmason | 2 years ago
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nicmason wrote:

not as bad as the description.

Looks like the bus overtook then pulled in to the gap between the first and second bikes. Is the rider expecting a long sequence of cyclists to be treated like one very long vehicle ?

I would have thought that what is expected is safe passing distance, which the driver failed to observe

In addition the  driver failed to observe safe stopping distance to the rider in front, which, at say 20mph, is 12m. The professional driver of course already knows this.

Neither would a safe driver have performed this ridiculous manoeuvre on the approach to a bend

What any (correction, most) of us are expecting here is safe driving within the HWC, especially from a professional driver - this individual utterly failed on pretty much all counts. The driver's impatience and entitlement ≠ a justification to risk other people's lives

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wtjs | 2 years ago
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“The police did not respond at all and in fact have not responded to any of my recent incidents,” he added

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/30/greater-manchester-official-concerns-raised-about-public-safety-amid-police-failings

Unsurprising, although still reprehensible, as Manchester used to be part of Lancashire and GMP were recently in 'Special Measures' for being crap. I suspect Lancashire Constabulary regards GMP as being a bunch of wet pinko lefties too much concerned with this 'public safety' nonsense. The OP Colin has a duty: to follow this up with anybody he can. All the usual suspects will, of course, ignore his efforts but you have to have evidence when you're trying to overturn a culture of corruption and general evil.

This is Stagecoach Route 42 bus PX12 DMU in Garstang. Lancashire Constabulary has a new tactic: claiming they are taking action and then doing virtually nothing- possibly unrecorded words of advice. All this rubbish about professional PSV drivers being held to a higher standard is just that- in Lancashire and Greater Manchester anyway

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ThatBloodyCyclist | 2 years ago
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The driver was probably grinning like a Cheshire Cat after that overtake. Tool!

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alansmurphy | 2 years ago
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It always puzzles me why when a driver has done something this utterly stupid they don't just apply the brakes and stop in the road. They always seem to move towards the unprotected lump of flesh!

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Oldfatgit replied to alansmurphy | 2 years ago
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Because that would have defeated the whole objective of the overtake ... which is to move faster.
Why would they slow down and pull back, when there's all that space to the left?

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