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Near Miss of the Day 815: “Again and again, drivers don't seem to get the message”

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Surrey...

“Again and again, drivers don't seem to get the message” says a cyclist who received a very close pass in Surrey earlier this month, on a road marked with double solid white lines.

Tim, the road.cc reader who filmed the clip, told us: “This one was on 2 August 2022, cycling from Shalford into Guildford in Surrey, where the cyclist was coming up to the crest of a hill, on a blind bend, with a SLOW warning painted on the road and double white lines...

“Surely these warnings and road paint would alert any upcoming driver that it probably won't be safe to overtake, but here we see a driver of a van flooring it to get past just as an oncoming vehicle in the other lane comes into view.

“Again and again, drivers don't seem to get the message, and seem to have the ‘I own the road, get out of my way as mine is bigger than yours’ mentality. This is why vulnerable road users get injured or killed.

“Duly reported to Surrey Police, whom hopefully will be able to educate the driver before they actually do injure or kill someone.”

Tim subsequently updated us with the reply he got from police, who said:

"I can confirm that the matter reported yesterday, regarding the lorry overtaking you, is being progressed further. To that end I am sending out a Notice of Intended Prosecution to the registered keeper.

"Taking into account the size of the vehicle, the speed at which they passed, the amount of room given, and the fact that the vehicle contrived the solid double white centre road markings, was sufficient evidence for me to progress.

"However for future submissions please remember that the suggested passing distance of 1.5 metres, as per the Highway Code, is only a recommendation, and is not mandatory. All submissions will be reviewed and considered on a case by case basis."  

The 1.5 metre passing distance is, as Tim was told, a recommendation and not backed by the letter of the law.

However, it is also worth noting that the new Rule 163 of the Highway Code published in January this year says, in part: “Leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.”

> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.

If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).

Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.

> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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NotBlindedByCyc... | 1 year ago
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Cycle lane to the left,  he should have been in it.

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hawkinspeter replied to NotBlindedByCyclistsBS | 1 year ago
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NotBlindedByCyclistsBS wrote:

Cycle lane to the left,  he should have been in it.

WRONG!

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Hirsute replied to NotBlindedByCyclistsBS | 1 year ago
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The cyclist clearly knew the lane gives out and that trying then to enter the road would be tricky, so it was best not to use it.

But you could have saved yourself writing your post by reading what had already been stated about the cycle lane...

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to NotBlindedByCyclistsBS | 1 year ago
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Shared path on the left, cyclist had a choice to be in it and decided not to. Lorry should react to actual vehicles on road and drive in a safe manner. 
 

what would your BS be about if it had happened 10 yards further on when shared path end for cyclists?

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Car Delenda Est replied to NotBlindedByCyclistsBS | 1 year ago
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There's probably a motorway somewhere those motorists should be in too right?

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Seagull2 | 1 year ago
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Reckless disregard for cyclist and motorist , i hope the punishment causes enough pain to alter future behaviour 

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MTB Refugee | 1 year ago
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I ride this route a couple of times a week and see this quality driving on a regular basis. The shared use footpath is only suitable for children on bikes accompanied by adults on foot.

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Steve K replied to MTB Refugee | 1 year ago
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A fairly regular road for me too, and never fun.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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"The 1.5 metre passing distance is, as Tim was told, a recommendation and not backed by the letter of the law."

But the law does not define every single thing that constitutes careless of without due care types of driving. If only there were some guide we could adduce to help decide.

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ktache replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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A "Code" perhaps..?

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chrisonabike replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Having had a re-read of the new bits recently I think Barbossa put it best:

https://youtu.be/WJVBvvS57j0?t=14

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Bentrider replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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the little onion replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Or better still, have some kind of test for driving where there is clear acceptable standard during the test, and then for these standards to be applicable when driving afterwards 

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hutchdaddy replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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I'm not a lawyer, but I know that not all law is written. 
Not following the highway can be used as evidence to demonstrate dangerous driving so...
The following sections in the highway code "​leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph... and not overtake if it is unsafe or not possible to meet these clearances." will be used to prosecute.

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hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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I can't wait to go on YouTube to see how many people are so observant that they can see a bike lane, but are unable to see dangerous driving!

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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Or miss the cycling lane ended 3 yards further on dumping cyclist into the same road with the same markings and same lack of visibility for the lorry. 

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IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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Clearly a "safety pass" - think how dangerous it would be for an HGV to have to follow close to a cyclist and the damage the rider might do to the lorry with an unexpected wobble.

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