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Best road bike tyres 2024 — get more comfortable and faster with fewer punctures

Our top picks and recommendations of the best road bike tyres for all conditions, whether you're after speed, comfort, durability or value

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Over the years we've clocked up hundreds of thousands of miles in all weather conditions and on various road conditions, testing tyres. With an eclectic selection of everything from sturdy commuting tyres to super-fast race rubber, these are our picks of the best road bike tyres you can buy. 


As Specialized famously said: "Whether you're riding a 2000-mile route of Le Tour de France or 40 miles on a Saturday, only one inch really matters—your contact patch".

Here at road.cc we believe that tyres are one of the most cost-effective upgrades you can make to a bike, whether you're searching for "free" speed, more grip, increased durability or just fewer of those dreaded punctures.

Even the very best bike wheels can be let down when clad in poor rubber, but before purchasing new tyres there are a couple of things to check:

Firstly, will you be fitting your tyres to tubeless wheels? Most of these will require special rim tape to stop the sealant and air from escaping.

Secondly, how much clearance does your frame have? Many bikes designed for racing, especially models with rim brakes, will be limited to 28mm; but as the trend for wider rubber really accelerated in the 2020s, we've found that more and more of the best road bikes have space for 30mm or more nowadays. 

If you have a gravel bike with tons of clearance, then we have a separate guide for the best gravel tyres we've tested. 

How do we review tyres

Reviewing tyres takes time, which is why road.cc reviewers ride with any test tyres for at least a month before submitting their verdicts. By putting the tyres through various different riding conditions and scenarios, we can then write up a thorough report of each.

Our experienced reviewers have to assess various factors such as the construction quality, durability, rolling resistance claims, weight, puncture-proofness and value, while also taking into account similar products when assessing how good or bad something is. We believe that this comprehensive evaluation provides valuable insights into whether the tyres live up to their marketing claims in everyday riding conditions, and whether they are easy to get on your rims in the first place! 

It's worth noting that our reviews are just that: reviews, not lab tests. Without acess to specialist equipment like the folks at Bicycle Rolling Resistance or Wheel Energy, we're not claiming to know exactly whether one tyre is 0.1 watts faster than another. Scientific test results are really useful when it comes to tyres, but we still think observations about ride quality, grip and even how easy they are to get on or off are also useful and valid. 

Why you can trust us

When it comes to road.cc buyer's guides, we will only ever recommend products that fared well in reviews and all of the tyres featured here scored the near-perfect 4.5 out of 5 stars or more overall from our reviewers, indicating very good, excellent or exceptional quality according to our reviewers' opinions. 

Our reviewers are all experienced cyclists, and so are the road.cc team members who put these guides together. That means you can be sure the product selections are our genuine top picks, not just a round-up of things we can make a commission from.

With all that said, it's time for our selections. We've picked out some best-of-the-best options (which you'll see in the quick links above) and below these we've also chosen plenty more of our road tyre recommendations. There was a lot to choose from, hence the longer list than some of our buyer's guides, 

If you've already decided on your next tyres and want to take your upgrading even further, then you can also check out our recommendations of the best road bike wheels too. 

The best road bike tyres: our top picks

Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR tyre on Hunt rim

Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR

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Best tubeless road bike tyre
Buy now for £59.99 from Merlin Cycles
Speedy (same as older TLs)
Dry and wet weather grip
More robust sidewalls than TL
Compatible with hookless rims
Can still be a pig to fit on some rims

When it comes to road tyres, Continental GP5000 has long enjoyed unparalleled popularity, and deservedly so. When it comes to the overall best tubeless tyre from our selections, the GP5000 S TR is a tyre with race-day speed and everyday durability. It brings some welcome upgrades to the already excellent GP 5000 TL, such as being a claimed 20% faster and 50 grams lighter per tyre, plus improved sidewall protection and compatibility with hookless rims.

Although still stubborn to fit on some rims, out on the road Continental's Black Chilli rubber compound has found a wonderful balance between grip and speed while not wearing out as quickly as many similar tyres. The TRs impressed us both in the wet and the dry with predictable cornering. They really are an all-around tubeless-ready package.

If you're still sticking to tubes and clinchers, the Continental Grand Prix 5000 Clincher is a good option and also featured in this guide further down. 

Challenge Criterium RS Handmade Tubeless Ready Road Tyre

Challenge Criterium RS Handmade Tubeless Ready Road Tyre

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Best money no object tyre
Buy now for £67.5 from Tweeks Cycles
Ride feel
Balance of grip, durability and speed
Race tyre ride without race tyre fragility
Need topping up with air more often than some
Open tubulars can be slightly tricky to set up tubeless

The Challenge Criterium RS TLR is a handmade tubeless-ready tyre that balances grip, durability and speed. It's super-supple, high-tpi, and is quite the looker with white tan walls. 

Out on the road, the tyres feel fast and the 350tpi casing is right up there with the best, conforming around road deformations to deliver a silky smooth ride. The tyres are light too, coming in at 255g each on our scales in a size 27mm. 

The Criterium RS, like all open tubulars, sits flat to the rim before inflation, so they can be slightly tricky to set up tubeless but a tyre lever should do the job.

Vittoria Corsa Speed Tubeless Ready tyre flat in studio setting

Vittoria Corsa Speed Tubeless Ready

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Best road bike tyre for fast riding and racing
Buy now for £47.99 from Sigma Sports
FAST
Excellent ride feel
Grip
Price
Durability

The Corsa Speeds have time and time again proven to be some of the very quickest on the market. Not only that, but we found them easy to set up tubeless and they offer a much superior ride compared with some tubeless rubber we've tested. 

The tyres are made in a very similar fashion to Vittoria's excellent regular Corsa G+ clinchers. That means you get the same 320tpi (threads per inch) core-spun cotton casing and a graphene compound. Weight is also very good for a tubeless tyre at 471g for the pair (235.5g each), but while we found puncture resistance ok, these will wear quite quickly.

It is worth noting that there is now a G2.0 version but these are a fabulously fast and supple tyre, though their delicate nature and price probably limits them to racing and fast rides.

Michelin Power Cup Tubeless Ready Tyre fitted on front bike wheel

Michelin Power Cup Tubeless Ready Tyre 700x28

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Best tyre for ultimate grip in wet weather
Buy now for £69.99 from Swinnerton Cycles
Impressively grippy
Spin up quickly and maintain speed well
Simple to set up tubeless
£17 more than the clincher version

The Michelin Power Cup Tubeless Ready tyre offers impressive performance. It's fast, grippy, even in wet conditions, thanks to Michelin's Gum-X compound - and easy to set up tubeless, making it a great choice for riders seeking high performance and speed. With a weight of 269g, it also offers a good balance between speed and durability. Setting these tyres up tubeless was straightforward, providing a hassle-free experience.  Despite these tubeless ones being slightly pricier than the clincher version, their overall quality and performance make up for the extra spend.

Hutchinson Challenger TLR tyre fitted on a bike wheel

Hutchinson Challenger TLR tyres

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Best tyre for durability
Buy now for £49.46 from Tweeks Cycles
Decent ride quality
Good grip
Easy tubeless set up
Impressive claimed lifespan
Not that light

When it comes to clocking in thousands of miles, the Hutchinson Challenger TLR tyres have come out as top contenders in the category of durable training tubeless road tyres. Designed for all-season riding, these tyres boast ultra-longevity, exceptional puncture resistance, and a comfortable grip. With a claimed lifespan of up to 10,000km and high puncture resistance, they are particularly well suited for winter riding and endurance cycling. Installation is a breeze, and their compatibility with both hookless rims and traditional setups makes them versatile. Riders can expect a smooth and enjoyable ride with impressive grip in wet and dry conditions. While not the lightest option on the market, the fact you're unlikely to puncture and don't have to get another set anytime soon makes these an excellent investment for distance cyclists. 

Two Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tyres against white background

Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tyre

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Best bike tyre for commuting
Buy now for £31.99 from Fawkes Cycles
Puncture protection
Decent rolling resistance
Stubborn to fit

Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres are essentially heavy-duty, ultra-reliable commuter/touring tyres that inspire unprecedented confidence without feeling sluggish or barge-like, as the 970g weight for a pair would imply. If swerving punctures is your main criterion in a commuting tyre (and let's face it, who wants to fix a flat on the roadside on a wet January morning?) the Marathon Plus is the tyre to go for.

Much of this is attributable to the Smart Guard system. This is essentially a clever sub-section of supple rubber designed to force sharps out, rather than drawing them in as deep-treaded tyres can. These roll along nicely and are still the first choice for many of our staff.

Compass 650B x 48 Switchback Hill Extralight TC tyre folded on wooden surface

Compass 650B x 48 Switchback Hill Extralight TC

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Best 650B road bike tyre
Buy now for £82 from Svencycles
Light
Fast
Comfortable
Price
Set up

We reviewed these tyres back when Rene Herse was still called Compass, but other than the name on the sidewall nothing has changed. If you're rocking some smaller wheels then chances are you also have some increased clearance to play with, and these 48mm Switchback Hills are one of our favourite ways to fill it. 

In our full review you can read just how capable these tyres are... but spoiler, we said they're "super-comfortable, fast-rolling, tubeless-compatible, off-road-capable and light." There's really not a lot wrong here! Dave added that while others are considering switching to 28mm tyres from 25s, his advice would be to skip a few sizes and fit a pair of these if you can. They're great.

At just 412g per tyre; the extra light casing is super supple and soaks up tarmac miles with no obvious penalty over something much, much narrower. Just be prepared for a few funny looks from your thin tyre counterparts as you keep up just fine. 

Panaracer GravelKing Slick TLC

Panaracer GravelKing Slick TLC

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Best road bike tyre for rough roads
Buy now for £31.76 from Amazon UK
Lots of grip
Great on poor roads or light gravel
Light
Fast rolling
Can be tough to mount

Unlike the name suggests, the GravelKing isn't actually a 'gravel' tyre as such, but it does excel in any kind of on-road/bad-road scenario. It's light, rolls along very well regardless of the terrain and is available in a large range of widths.  

Puncture protection is pretty solid, despite lacking the ProTite protection of the slightly more expensive 'Plus' version. The ZSG (Zero Slip Grip) natural compound offers low rolling resistance and low wear characteristics. A 35mm version weighs in at 309g per tyre, which isn't half bad. Our reviewer said that these tyres "will handle practically anything you can throw at them on road."

Our final verdict sums up these tyres well: "The ideal tyre for rough roads – very fast, very light and yet robust."

It's no wonder that they made it into road.cc Recommends!

Ere Research Genus Pro CCX Skinwall tyre on rim with grey background

Ere Research Genus Pro CCX Skinwall

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Buy now for £89 from Ere Research
Supple casing
Easy to fit and inflate
Light
Compatible with hookless rims
Limited size options
Expensive

If money is no object for you, then the Ere Research Genus Pro CCX Skinwall tyres offer supreme comfort and speed for some fast riding and racing. These rather premium tyres feature a 320TPI cotton casing, which makes them exceptionally supple and fast. They are tubeless-ready and compatible with hookless rims, making them compatible with most modern wheelsets. The tyres incorporate a 65a durometer rubber compound with CarbonX fibres, which should enhance rolling resistance without compromising grip. Despite the very hefty price, these tyres deliver exceptional performance with a smooth and fast ride quality - as long as you are okay with limited size options. 

Matt concluded his review of these: "Ere has taken the technology and brought it up to date, alongside only a few competitors, and the Genus Pro CCX delivers incredible performance with a beautifully smooth and fast ride quality; the only drawback is that it all comes at a substantial price."

At the time of writing these tyres are sold out, but we're told more stock is imminent including a new 32mm version. 

More great road tyre options

Pirelli P Zero Race 4S folded on wooden surface

Pirelli P Zero Race 4S

9
Buy now for £52.69 from Tweeks Cycles
Excellent grip
Easy to fit
Enjoyable ride quality

The Pirelli P Zero Race 4S tyres impress with their grip in mixed conditions while feeling quick to ride. This non-tubeless version gives a summer tyre-like feel all year round and there is now a tubeless version available too. 

This latest version feature a new nylon puncture protection belt under the 120tpi (threads per inch) casing, which adds some extra resilience without adding much weight. It's also more flexible than most, which provides the Pirellis with an impressive ride-feel. The SmartEVO compound is a real highlight, offering grip levels rarely experienced in clincher tyres for year-round cornering confidence.

Pirelli's P Zero Race 4S is about as good as it gets for a fit-and-forget, year-round clincher road tyre, especially if you're after one with a light, grippy summer tyre-like ride quality.

Bontrager R3 Hard-Case Lite TLR tyre closeup

Bontrager R3 Hard-Case Lite TLR tyre

9
Buy now for £54.58 from Swinnerton Cycles
Longevity
Puncture resistance
Tubeless comfort
A little leaky

The Bontrager R3 Hard-Case Lite TLR tyre seems to have found the sweet spot of durability and grip proving to be a comfortable choice for poor road surfaces and long distances. 

The R3 Hard-Case Lite TLR is a lightly treaded, tubeless-ready road tyre available in 25, 28 and 32mm widths, made with proprietary TR-Speed compound rubber and puncture-protected with an improved Hard-Case Lite breaker belt.

They've proved to be fast-rolling for their size, suffering no punctures and proving to be extremely durable.

Continental Grand Prix 5000 Clincher

Continental Grand Prix 5000 Clincher

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Buy now for £49.98 from Amazon UK
Impressive grip
Durability is good for a race tyre
Tan wall doesn't get as dirty as some
Some will miss the lack of tubeless capability

The Continental Grand Prix 5000 is a hugely popular road tyre, and rightly so. It uses the BlackChilli compound, a Vectran Breaker puncture protection layer and three layers of 110tpi casing for a tyre that pretty much does everything well.

Take these out in the dry and traction is great, but more impressive is the wet weather grip. As far as rolling speed is concerned, they feel proper fast and this is backed up by strong results in independent testing. Bicycle Rolling Resistance's results show the GP5000 non-tubeless is not only significantly faster than the old GP4000S II, but nearly as quick as the Grand Prix TT all-out race tyre.

The cool thing about the GP5000 is that you get close to proper race tyre performance with training tyre longevity. If you aren't bothered about tubeless compatibility, this is one of the fastest, grippiest tyres you can fit. 

Panaracer Agilest TLR Road Tyre closeup

Panaracer Agilest TLR Road Tyre

9
Buy now for £35.49 from Amazon UK
Easy to mount and inflate
Confident, predictable grip
Light

If you want predictable performance, the Panaracer Agilest TLR Road Tyre is a lightweight and grippy option. It's easy to fit on modern rims and holds air very well,  and despite lacking dedicated puncture protection layers, it performed admirably during our tests, showing no signs of wear or damage. The grip, even in wet conditions, was also impressive, providing confidence-inspiring handling. While not the absolute "agilest" tyre, it offers excellent performance with neutral steering characteristics and a rounded profile. It's also good value compared to competing all-rounder road tyres! 

Specialized S-Works Turbo 2BR 2Bliss Ready T2/T5 fitted on front wheel

Specialized S-Works Turbo 2BR 2Bliss Ready T2/T5

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Buy now for £49.5 from Cyclestore
Grippy, even in the wet
Easy to mount and set up tubeless
Low rolling resistance

The Specialized S-Works Turbo 2BR 2Bliss Ready tyre is a standout option for those seeking impressive grip, particularly in wet conditions. These tyres provide you with confidence and stability when tackling corners at higher speeds. Setting up the tyre tubeless is a breeze, and despite a slightly higher weight compared to competitors, the overall performance and durability make these a top choice for both race days and everyday rides. 

Our reviewer George concluded: "They're grippy in corners, fast on the straight, and despite ceding a little weight to their rivals, they're no slouch when the road goes upwards too. I tried to find something I didn't like about these, but I genuinely struggled."

How to choose the best road bike tyres

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What should you look for in a road bike tyre?

Which road bike tyre is best for you will depend a lot on the type of riding and terrain you cover. Very few of us will want to choose the fastest tyres on the market, as they are often more fragile and will wear out quickly; however, heavier, more puncture-resistant tyres often sacrifice ride feel, so a level of compromise is needed.

If you plan on using the same tyres year-round then you will want something towards the more durable end of the spectrum. If you're lucky enough to have a set of separate summer/best road bike wheels then you can get away with a lighter option.

If commuting then we suggest prioritising puncture resistance over everything else, because from experience we know that there's nothing worse than turning up to work late and with filthy, frozen hands - or finding an alternative transport method at the last minute! 

The last thing to consider is whether to go tubeless or not. You can read about all the pros and cons of tubeless tyres here.

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What makes a good road bike tyre?

The perfect road bike tyre would weigh nothing, have zero rolling resistance, last forever and make your bike feel like you were floating suspended above the ground. Unfortunately, that combination is impossible to achieve. That said, the best road bike tyres do manage to excel in one or more of those categories. The right road bike tyre for you is all about balancing those priorities.

For example, a softer compound will be more comfortable and grippy, while a harder compound tyre will last longer. Some road bike tyres use multiple rubber compounds to get the best of both worlds. 

You might think that the more texture the tyre has, the better it is at gripping, too. This is not really true with modern, engineered road tyres. It is the compound that makes the tyre have that perfect grip even on wet, sleek tarmac and this means that even a very slick-looking tyre can actually be extremely grippy. 

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Do different bike tyres make a difference?

The simple answer is yes! Changing your tyres is one of the most cost-effective upgrades no matter your ability. Stock tyres are an area that many brands like to cut costs and/or put little thought into, so it's often one of the first things we can upgrade - with little cost.

Independent testing shows that the difference between even tyres of the same size and pressure can make a huge difference in watt saving, with as many as 17 watts saved per tyre between the fastest and slowest 25mm tyres at 28.8kph. Just try and boost your FTP by a similar figure! We at road.cc test tyres in real-life conditions, but if you're interested in the more scientific rolling-resistance tests, there are resources to compare different tyres resistance and qualities online. 

Watt saving is of course only a small part of it. A quality set of tyres will not only make you faster but also help to prevent punctures, increase cornering grip and confidence as well as even make your rides more comfortable.

The width of your tyres also impacts how they feel. We've taken an in-depth look at what wider tyres do to your cycling experience here

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Tube type clincher, tubeless ready, tubeless, tubular or hookless??

These are the main types of tyres that you'll find on the market today, and which ones you run will depend a lot on the wheels you plan on fitting them to.

The most common is still the tube-type clincher tyre, in which you run an inner tube commonly made of butyl or latex to hold the air. Meanwhile, a fully tubeless tyre ditches this tube and is designed to be airtight; however, these have mainly been superseded by tubeless-ready tyres (tubeless tyres that require sealant) as they are lighter thanks to ditching the airtight liner and can seal small punctures.

Hookless tyres are simply tubeless tyres that are rated for use with hookless rims. If you have hookless rims, you should really refer to the manufacturer's guidelines on what tyres are compatible with your hoops. Hookless tyres are usually found only in 28mm+ sizes and have lower pressure limits (~70psi).

Tubular tyres were once very popular, especially amongst professional racers, but their popularity has waned in recent years. Tubular tyres are glued to the rims to seal them, so aren't the most practical choice for the majority of riders.

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What width road bike tyre?

Bicycle tyres come in a huge array of widths, from skinny 19mm tyres designed for the velodrome to four-inch mountain bike tyres for battling through deep snow. In recent years there's been a trend for going wider as we understand more about rolling resistance and the benefits of increased comfort. 

Again, we've covered the benefits and drawbacks of wider tyres in more depth here. 

The width of the tyres on your bike depends on a large number of factors, like the riding you do and whether you have mudguards, but the biggest is simply what you can physically fit in the frame and fork. This usually reflects the purpose of the bicycle:

Racing bikes: 23 - 28mm. We recommend going towards the upper end of this for anything other than the smoothest of roads. 

Endurance bikes: 28-35mm. Sacrificing a tiny bit of speed can greatly increase your comfort, as long as there's room to fit them in the frame! 

Touring bikes: 25-50mm. Touring bikes come in all shapes and sizes, we recommend going for 30mm upwards for this discipline. 

Commuting bikes: 25-45mm. Add extra comfort to your commute with wider tyres, but remember to leave room for mudguards!

This is only a rough guide, and it's always important to look up the tyre clearance for your specific bike frame. You'll want at least 3mm of clearance on either side of the tyre, and remember that tyres can measure up bigger or smaller than their stated size depending on what rims you fit them to. If all of the tyres we've featured here look a bit skinny to you, then check out our best gravel bike tyres buyer's guide.

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What road bike tyre pressure is best?

The correct tyre pressure depends on a whole host of factors, from your weight to the road conditions, to how fast you want to go and of course, the width and type of tyre you use.

We recommend checking out this handy tyre pressure calculator tool from Sram. While this won't find everyone's perfect solution, it is a good starting point and one that we regularly refer back to.

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How often should I replace my bike tyres?

Getting a good set of road bike tyres is a guaranteed way to boost our speed and overall riding experience, but unfortunately, tyres don't last forever. You should regularly inspect your tyres for wear and tear, and if you notice large holes or tears, you should replace them before the tyre fails while you're riding. 

Even if you don't have any slits or holes on your tyre, over time they wear out and need to be replaced. There are usually wear markings on tyres - these are often little indentations in the mid-section of the outside of the tyre. Once the rubber has worn, these dents are no longer visible and that means you should swap to a new tyre. You don't always need to replace both tyres at the same time - quite often your rear tyre wears more quickly than the front one because the back bears more of the weight. 

You can try to fix slit tyres with dedicated tyre patches, but this should be more of a get-home solution than a long-term patch. 

Suvi joined F-At in 2022, first writing for off-road.cc. She's since joined the tech hub, and contributes to all of the sites covering tech news, features, reviews and women's cycling content. Lover of long-distance cycling, Suvi is easily convinced to join any rides and events that cover over 100km, and ideally, plenty of cake and coffee stops. 

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NickSprink | 3 months ago
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Nearly all tubeless.  What about tubes?  I know tubeless is all the thing but I have gone back to tube type tyres for road, after 2 years on tubeless.  The sealant just doesnt work at the high pressures used for road tyres.  And now with TPU tubes, my Conti GP5000 tyres are just as fast, weigh slightly less, and are far more puncture resistant than the 5000 S TRs that they replaced.

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peted76 replied to NickSprink | 3 months ago
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Nick, you were most likely using the wrong sealant. 

We could really do with a sealant test.. I know Stu Kerton rides hard tyres so he's well placed for such a test. I've gone through half a dozen sealants over the years and I can tell you that Bontrager TL and Effetto Mariposa Espresso are my go to 'two' sealants.. I'm sure others do work, but I've used too many that haven't so I'll stick with those two. Both of which I find will seal up at around 80psi just fine.. 

 

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a1white | 10 months ago
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I've done well over 1000km on my Hutchinson challengers.. Absolutely love them. 1 puncture (riding on London streets) but so much more grip and feel than the gaterskin hardshells they replaced. Feel much faster too as a bonus they're much cheaper too. Definitely recommend them. 

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Cugel | 10 months ago
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The article mentions tyre clearance in the frame as well as "leave room for mudguards" with tyres fitted to bikes able to take them. I have long-standing questions about these aspects of tyre fitting that I never seem able to find a fully convincing answer to.

1) How much of what kind of tyre clearance is minimum and what determines those figures.  The article mentions 3mm but is this all round the tyre or just to the sidewalls?

What particular factors determine the figure?  Is it just the possible side-to-side flex of the wheels or are there other factors as well?

2) Some all-terrain bikes come with not just wide and slightly knobbled tyres but mudguards to fit. Such bikes are meant for both roads and tracks like canal paths or those in forests. But many argue that mudguards + track detritus such as branch bits risk a wheel jam and crash. 

How much risk is there in practice? What methods are there for preventing track detritus getting between wheel and mudguard enough to cause a jam?

Does anyone recall the small wire devices attached to the brake bridge bolt that were set to a fag paper clearance to the tyre, to push off detritus so jams didn't occur? Is there such a device for disc frames without brake bridge bolt holes?

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I have two racey style bikes that have no guards but tyre clearances to the top of the tyre at a fag paper gap. You can see a hairline of light if you look through the fork top (at the front) or stay-bridge bottom (at the back). I've ridden one of these bikes for 11 years now without incident, other than a bit of tar from a hot road getting in the gap and causing a noise, once. Bits of gravel or branch picked up by the tyres just get shoved off by the frame.

Any others with close-fitting typre clearance experiences? Or mudguard-jam experiences?

 

 

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LookAhead replied to Cugel | 10 months ago
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Get your fender-mounted tire-wipers here: https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/tire-wipers/

As for clearance, it's all about risk tolerance and margin for error, and personally I'd want to leave a healthy amount of space all around the tire and stick to paved roads. Absent fenders, detritus on or in the tire is likely to be knocked off by the rigid frame/fork if contact is made (I too have run tight frame clearances without major incident). Fenders, even good metal ones, are far less sturdy than frames and forks, and so for them there's the additional risk that they'll break/buckle and really jam you up.

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quiff replied to LookAhead | 10 months ago
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Many mudguards are also engineered so as to release from the stays in the event of a jam.

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check12 | 10 months ago
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Conti 5000s 23mm on the front, 25mm on the back with latex tubes, pump up before each ride.

or Conti 5000 s tr tubeless (23/25mm) if you enjoy messing about with sealant 

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Paul J | 10 months ago
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I've been holding off on the tubeless revolution - just cause my wheels are mostly old. Also, the tales of compatibility earlier, and the tales of sealant mess give me pause. Recently did a long gravel ride with a friend... Here's my data-point:

- He was on 35c gravel tyres, I was on (cheapish) Kenda SB8 54c MTB tyres.

- I was running at min pressure (35 psi or so). He was at 40 or 50 I think. Allowing for the different volumes, his tyres felt harder to press than mine.

- We did about 129km over gravel forestry roads, lot of loose chunky gravel. 

- He got a puncture that both put a hole in his tyre and unseated a section of tyre from the rim

- The sealant didn't plug the hole. He stopped to put a plug in, but that wouldn't stay in the hole either. Eventually had to put a tube in (borrowed from another rider - blew the first tube with a CO2 canister, didn't have another tube... cause tubeless doesn't puncture of course).

- Back of his bike was an absolute mess with sealant, from the BB all the way up to the seat. As were his bibs. The sealant pealed easily off the bike next day, but not off his bibs.

My punctures: 0

If I had gotten a puncture, I wouldn't have been sprayed in sealant. Also, I had 3 tubes cause I didn't have the false hope of tubeless.  3

Not hugely convinced by tubeless, have to say.

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MattieKempy replied to Paul J | 10 months ago
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I'd say that's a combination of luck and tyre choice! I'm sure there are plenty of tubeless users who could report similar stories but in reverse. I'm about to jinx myself here, but I haven't had a tubeless puncture in well over a year and when I do it's usually because I've forgotten to top up sealant or have left the tyre wear past it's use-by date, as it were!

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marmotte27 replied to MattieKempy | 10 months ago
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"tyre wear past it's use-by date"

Are there "Use-by dates" for tyres now? Really

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Jetmans Dad replied to marmotte27 | 10 months ago
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"tyre wear past it's use-by date"

Are there "Use-by dates" for tyres now? Really

I assume it is more ... the tyre is so worn I should have replaced it before now. 

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quiff replied to Paul J | 10 months ago
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I've never used actual tubeless, but have been running tubeless 35mm GravelKing slicks with inner tubes (that's how the bike was spec'd by Fairlight) - mainly for round town, but also a couple of 200km audaxes. I was hoping for the promised "higher volume, lower pressure, fewer punctures" experience, but it's been the most puncture-prone tyre I've ever used, and the first time I punctured, in the middle of nowhere 100km from home, I really struggled to get the tyre off (worse than my experiences with Marathon Plus). Granted, it's possible that if I actually ran them tubeless as intended, these punctures might have self sealed without me noticing, but the apparent fragility of the tyres (compared to 28mm GP4S on other bike) doesn't really encourage me to spend the extra money trying it out. I've wondered if I misunderstood the what 'TLC' on the sidewall stands for, and if it's actually a care label.       

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AidanR replied to quiff | 3 months ago
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I run GravelKing slicks as they're one of the only 650B slick tyres available in the width I want. But like you, I've been unimpressed by the puncture resistance. I've run Conti GP5000s and Schwalbe Kojaks on my road bike, and both are far superior.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Marathon Plus. 

That "Stubborn" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in the cons sentence. 

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I recall getting it to a point where I could not get it off or get it on.

I think there may have been a small amount of swearing at that juncture.

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Paul J replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 10 months ago
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Use the strap method. Get 3 little velcro straps (keep them in your saddle bag). Tie 3 straps, one after another in series, fairly close together and tight to compress AND HOLD the M+ tyre into the wheel. Remove the middle strap, and retie it a little further past next strap. Working the slack outwards. Repeat again, till you have a segment of maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the tyre tied off and held compressed into the wheel. See YouTube for some demonstrations.

This is a quick and easy way to get the slack to let you easily lever the tyre off the rim on the opposite side.

It isn't often you need to remove Marathon+ tyres from a rim (they wear out before ever puncturing, as often as not!), but when you do, this trick is essential.  1

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Off the back | 1 year ago
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Im not sure I would  buy Conti 5000 S TR looking at the pick with a hole in the sidewall. Surely they have a better stock photo 

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Surreyrider | 1 year ago
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No 4 Season tyre? Really?

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Roverholic replied to Surreyrider | 1 year ago
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They've listed the Pirelli P Zero 4S 👍

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Surreyrider replied to Roverholic | 10 months ago
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The clincher, not the tubeless.

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IanMSpencer replied to Surreyrider | 1 year ago
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When I used the Conti 4 Season I was quite disappointed, it seemed less grippy than the 4000. They may have changed the formula since then - it was a few years ago, but I think it didn't use their Black Chilli compound. I think the plain Grand Prix is one of their best all-rounders - puncture protection and Black Chilli, so a decent all season tyre, and a sensible price.

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Secret_squirrel replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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Isnt the point of the 4 season you swap grip for durability?

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IanMSpencer replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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I didn't see it that way - I assume a tyre suitable for winter use would have a wide operating range , much like you have car summer, winter and all season. I run all season on my car because they are designed to grip below 7 degrees, while a summer tyre is poor under 7 degrees. The weather in the UK doesn't justify winter tyres.

Continental are rather vague on what they mean by a year round tyre, but they say it is year round and durable, so I think it is reasonable to suppose it is in some way designed for winter riding, which should mean retaining grip in low temperatures - my experience was it was not a good winter tyre and Conti 5000, Schwalbe One and even Giant's Gavia tyres were better, the 4 Season nearly had me off the road when I overcooked a corner that other riders around had no difficulty. I took them off. Worse than Gatorskin for grip

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Freshmn09 replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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I would Agree with you, I found when running GP4k's I had 2 punctures in 4 years on the same pair, ridining in literally every weather the uk has to offer, Loved the grip, and never had any real issues with durability/punctures. except for price I never saw any reason for going to 4seasons or Gators.