Leeds cyclist killed and driver in intensive care after late-night crash

FatBoyW wrote:

anyway back on point if you are caught street racing, car should be seized and if offence proved crushed, as well as driving ban of course. Btw if caught driving when banned this should also be the case.

If caught driving whilst banned, your car should be crushed with offender in it - that should stop repeat offenders.

MikeOnABike wrote:

String all the bastard participants up by the neck until dead. All those watching should be given 20 years hard labour. Let's start getting some real JUSTICE in this country. 

or in all likelihood, just give them a £200 fine. 

Jimbomitch wrote:

If that is the case, Hootsy, then surely a normal person would delete the footage once they knew there were serious injuries and/or fatalities, not upload to whatever social media site for the horrendous possibility of relatives finding out about the incident in which their loved ones were hurt.

As I said, maybe I'm an old man from a different era..................I hope not.

I would say that a normal person would hand the evidence to police, rather than delete it or upload it, by my point was that the event was already being filmed as it unfolded, rather than passers-by seeing the incident, then turning on their cameras, instead of going to help. That's not to say that many people wouldn't start filming, rather then helping, unfortunately...

Jimbomitch wrote:

Am I just a grumpy old man, but what sort of people film this sort of thing rather than helping out? I despair.

Presumably the same people who slow right down to see if they can see anything, when there's been an accident on the motorway.

Jimbomitch wrote:

Am I just a grumpy old man, but what sort of people film this sort of thing rather than helping out? I despair.

I heard reports that the cars were involved in a street race, so I assume it had been pre-planned and people had gone along to watch and film, rather than random passers-by filming it.

Hootsy wrote:

I heard reports that the cars were involved in a street race, so I assume it had been pre-planned and people had gone along to watch and film, rather than random passers-by filming it.

Whilst I do not wish to detract from the seriousness of this tragic incident, anyone who uses the word "pre-planned" should be removed from the gene pool until they learn to speak English.

burtthebike wrote:

Hootsy wrote:

I heard reports that the cars were involved in a street race, so I assume it had been pre-planned and people had gone along to watch and film, rather than random passers-by filming it.

Whilst I do not wish to detract from the seriousness of this tragic incident, anyone who uses the word "pre-planned" should be removed from the gene pool until they learn to speak English.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pre-plan

You need to chillax.

Hootsy wrote:

I heard reports that the cars were involved in a street race, so I assume it had been pre-planned and people had gone along to watch and film, rather than random passers-by filming it.

Whilst I do not wish to detract from the seriousness of this tragic incident, anyone who uses the word "pre-planned" should be removed from the gene pool until they learn to speak English.

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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pre-plan

You need to chillax.

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Just because something is in an online dictionary, doesn't make it sensible or accurate.

The definition given is "Plan in advance:" as if there is some other kind of planning: there isn't.  You can only plan something in advance.  You cannot plan something in the past, you have to plan it in advance.  Planning is by definition done in advance.

At the very  least "pre-planning" is tautology, at worst, sloppy, ignorant and stupid.  It certainly isn't English.

Perhaps I am being pedantic, but I prefer that to being sloppy, ignorant and stupid.

Jimbomitch wrote:

Am I just a grumpy old man, but what sort of people film this sort of thing rather than helping out? I despair.

I have not seen this footage so I cannot comment on it specifically but my general thoughts on your statement are:

1) It only takes 1 or 2 people who are close by to assist, the rest if they try to help will actually be getting in the way. I say this as someone who was with the St John's Ambulance for decades and have experienced the too many cooks scenario with people trying to assist at the scene of an accident

2) Filming and posting such things on social media should actually help as it can educate people as to the consequence of their actions

3) If the people filming should not have been there in the first place then uploading it to social media anonymously might be the only way it will find its way to the police where it can do a lot of good.

Just my thoughts