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Campaigners say Labour’s new homes plan “shouldn’t be granted” without cycling measures; Pro cyclist kicked off race for racist gesture; National road safety group slammed for “dangerous” mandatory bike helmet poll; Crocodile Ewan + more on the live blog

If you’re struggling through the week like a pro cyclist on a stupidly steep Turkish mountain, why not while away your Wednesday with Ryan Mallon on the road.cc live blog?

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11 October 2023, 08:04
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“Planning permission shouldn’t be granted without active travel elements designed in”: Cycling campaigners call for Labour to “demonstrate bravery” by making new homes plan active travel-focused, ditching “roads-only network” and reliance on cars

Sir Keir Starmer’s promise to build the “next generation” of new towns, and 1.5 million homes, as part of a “decade of renewal under Labour”, must be designed and implemented alongside “transport options fit for the future”, which will allow people living in these new homes to cycle, walk, or use public transport easily, Cycling UK says.

Yesterday at the Labour party conference, the glitter-covered leader of the opposition pledged to accelerate building on unused urban land to create a swathe of new towns close to “good jobs and infrastructure”, similar to those built by the Labour government in the wake of World War Two.

Starmer also promised to build 1.5 million new homes during the five years of what he hopes will be the next Labour-dominated parliament.

> Rishi Sunak’s ‘Plan for Motorists’ will “rob people of choice” and force them to drive, say cycling and walking campaigners

However, Cycling UK has called on the Labour leader to ditch the “roads-only network” typical of recent large-scale housing developments and to “demonstrate bravery” by setting out a transport plan that gives people “real opportunities” to walk and cycle short journeys, ending the reliance on cars.

“Labour has promised a decade of national renewal, including building 1.5 million new homes,” Sarah McMonagle, director of external affairs at Cycling UK, said in a statement following Starmer’s speech.

“These new neighbourhoods will also need transport options fit for the future, not the roads-only network that typifies so many recent large housing developments, leaving people with no option but to rely on cars.

“These new homes must have excellent links to public transport, be close to the services people need, and designed and planned so that walking or cycling for short journeys are obvious, safe, and attractive options for most people. Planning permission shouldn’t be granted without these elements designed in.”

> Cycling charity accuses Conservatives of "ill-fated attempt to win" votes with pro-motoring policies "undermining" active travel success

She continued: “But we needed to hear more from [Shadow Transport Secretary] Louise Haigh about Labour’s long-term plans for transport – in particular, taking into account the needs of people and families who don’t have access to a car.

“Keir Starmer mentioned the need for bravery, and we now need Labour to demonstrate that bravery by setting out the party’s plans for a transport future that gives more people real opportunities to walk or cycle short journeys. That’s a far better way to tackle the cost-of-living and climate crises, but also to massively improve our health, wealth, and well-being.”

11 October 2023, 13:56
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“If all you’re pushing is bike helmets and hi-vis, you’re not really interested in the safety of the most vulnerable road users”: National road safety group accused of “dangerous framing” over mandatory helmet poll

A national road safety organisation has become the subject of scathing criticism from cyclists for the third time in two weeks, for conducting an online poll on whether the use of cycle helmets should be mandatory, with social media users accusing the group of framing the question in a “dangerous” manner and ignoring the primary cause for cycling injuries and fatalities on the UK’s roads.

Road Safety GB, the national road safety organisation that is run in association with THINK! and representatives from groups across the UK, including local government road safety teams, was criticised at the end of September for sharing a “victim-blaming” campaign from the Bedfordshire Road Safety Partnership.

Helmet campaign (Bedfordshire Road Safety Partnership)

> Road safety organisation accused of "victim-blaming" over cycling helmet campaign

The organisation said that they hope the campaign, which urges cyclists to wear helmets, would make helmet wearing the “norm” like in Australia – where helmets have been mandatory for over 30 years, yet where injuries for cyclists have increased, where fines for not wearing a helmet are handed out “aggressively and disproportionately”, where cyclists believe that riding a bike is “discouraged”, and where recent studies have found that cyclists wearing helmets are viewed by drivers as “less human”

Ah, great comparison.

> Conservative MP cites "safety" and attempts to reignite cyclist helmet debate

Undeterred by the backlash to that particular campaign, Road Safety GB has again come under fire this week for publishing on its website an opinion piece by Conservative MP for Rugby, Mark Pawsey, who has campaigned for making wearing a helmet while cycling a legal requirement, despite his on government insisting that it has “no intention” of introducing such a law.

And now, Road Safety GB is conducting a poll with the single question: “Should the usage of cycle helmets be mandatory?”, with respondents allowed to choose from three answers, Yes, No, and Not Sure (a box in which respondents can expand on their choice is optional).

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the poll – described as a “clickbait survey” by one social media user – has only added to the din of disapproval emanating from the cycling world in response to Road Safety GB’s stance on, ahem, road safety issues in GB.

“So you’re basically asking for an opinion rather than citing any scientific or statistical reason as to why helmets may make the roads safer for cyclists who may potentially sustain a head injury. Jeez, who thought this up?” asked cycling lawyer Rory McCarron on X/Twitter.

Referring to the group’s “interesting” decision to include a photo of a child cycling on a country road alongside the poll, Eric said: “Do you really think that helmet will do a better job than a protected bike lane when a speeding SUV comes over the horizon?

“If all you’re pushing is bike helmets and hi-vis, you’re not really interested in the safety of the most vulnerable road users.”

> Why is Dan Walker’s claim that a bike helmet saved his life so controversial?

“The framing of your question is dangerous as it doesn’t even venture to name the main reason for cyclist fatalities,” added Bike and Bow.

“I’ll give a hint: Comes with four seats and a steering wheel.”

“I thought you were an organisation interested in and charged with helping to make our roads safer?” asked Jonathan. “What does wearing a cycle helmet, or not, have to do with road safety? Wearing a cycle helmet does not make our roads any safer and you should know this! Strange indeed!”

“Following this reasoning we should extend this to people who drive as even with modern safety devices you are more likely to have a head injury in a motor vehicle,” says Gary. “Also with the rate of spinal injuries in motor vehicles I’d suggest adding a neck brace.”

> Academic behind ‘cyclists seen as less human’ study: “If you have a safe and normal cycling culture, how could you see people as anything but human?”

Dr Robert Davis, the chair of the Road Danger Reduction Forum, also responded to the poll by arguing that Road Safety GB shows “how so much of the ‘road safety’ industry (set up by auto industry and government committed to more and more motor traffic 100 years ago) are part of the problem.”

Davis also said that these organisations, “representing hundreds of ‘Road Safety Officers’ paid for by us in local government”, are “either failing to address road danger at source or exacerbating it, with non-evidence-based victim blaming red herrings thrown in”.

Regardless of the outcome of Road Safety GB’s poll, such a change in cycling legislation appears unlikely for the foreseeable future, with the government admitting in December that the matter had been considered “at length” during the cycling and walking safety review in 2018, with the Department for Transport holding “no intention” to making cycle helmets mandatory.

But that doesn’t seem to ever stop some ‘road safety’ groups, does it?

11 October 2023, 10:19
Madis Mihkels, 2021 junior road world championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
Pro cyclist withdrawn from race in China after posting racist gesture on social media

Intermarché-Circus-Wanty have withdrawn their rider Madis Mihkels from the Tour of Guangxi, which starts tomorrow in the south of China, after a photo showing the Estonian making a racist gesture was posted on social media by teammate Gerben Thijsen.

The 20-year-old neo-pro, who took his first professional win at the Tour of Germany in August, made a crude, offensive gesture with his eyes as part of an Instagram story on Thijsen’s account, taken in Beihai, where the six-stage race begins tomorrow, images of which are circulating on social media.

**Warning: The following material contains a racist, offensive gesture**

Madis Mihkels racist gesture

In a statement released this morning, Intermarché-Circus-Wanty say they have pulled Mihkels out of the race and “necessary disciplinary steps” will be taken. However, there was no mention of Thijssen in the statement, though the 25-year-old Belgian’s Instagram story and account has since been removed.

“We sincerely regret the behaviour of our rider Madis Mihkels and the image shown on the social media,” the team said.

“We would like to apologise to the Chinese people and fans, to the government of Guangxi, to the Chinese Cycling Association, and all parties involved in the organization of Tour of Guangxi for the image given of our sport.

“For ever, our team Intermarché-Circus-Wanty, composed of more than 15 nationalities in our project, and our partners always defend firmly equal opportunities and fight daily against racism.

“We will withdraw Madis Mihkels from the race and take necessary disciplinary steps to close this incident.”

11 October 2023, 11:17
Intermarché-Circus-Wanty update statement to include Gerben Thijssen, confirming that Belgian rider has also been withdrawn from Tour of Guangxi

After belatedly remembering that it takes two to post an offensive social media photo, Intermarché-Circus-Wanty have updated their statement to confirm that Belgian sprinter Gerben Thijssen – whose Instagram account hosted Madis Mihkels’ racist gesture – has also been withdrawn from the Tour of Guangxi, pending further “necessary disciplinary steps”.

Better late than never, I suppose…

11 October 2023, 15:45
Tanfield brothers auction off skinsuit signed by Team GB members for charity

Ahead of their second annual charity sportive in the North York Moors, British racing brothers Harry and Charlie Tanfield are auctioning off a skinsuit signed by members of the Team GB squad to raise money for Yorkshire Cancer Research and Yorkshire Air Ambulance.

The highest donation will win the scrawled-over skinsuit (I wonder if pen marks will make it more aero?), with all the money raised being split evenly between the two charities.

The Tanfield brothers are both ambassadors for Yorkshire Cancer Research, following the passing of their mother in 2019, while their father required the services of Yorkshire Air Ambulance after a “life-changing” fall while riding his bike in 2016.

You can donate to both charities, and try to win the signed Team GB skinsuit, at the sportive’s Just Giving page.

11 October 2023, 14:57
Live coverage of Caleb Ewan and Lotto Dstny’s “mutual agreement”
11 October 2023, 14:45
Google Maps collaborates with Transport for London to provide cyclists with safer and quieter navigation showing dedicated cycling infrastructure
Google Maps collaborates with TfL for better cycling routes

> Google Maps collaborates with Transport for London to provide cyclists with safer and quieter navigation showing dedicated cycling infrastructure

Now, that seems like a much better and more universally popular idea than mandatory helmets, eh?

11 October 2023, 13:30
What’s coming?!

To be fair, when it comes to terrible cycling-themed Christmas gifts, this one actually looks pretty cool for a change, I’ll give it that.

But please, it’s the middle of October, stop it with the Christmas chat, I’m begging you. At least let it get a bit cold first!

11 October 2023, 12:53
Death, taxes, and Jasper Philipsen winning sprints at the 2023 Tour of Turkey

Like a sixth former who’s just finished his A Levels, Jasper Philipsen is having a great week in Turkey, sprinting to the win this afternoon in the tourist port of Marmaris for his third stage victory out of a possible four so far (and to be fair to the Belgian, that missing stage went up a whacking great mountain).

He did have to work for today’s stage win, however, fighting his way through the pack in the final kilometre to just about overhaul Eolo-Kometa’s Giovanni Lonardi before the line.

Philipsen’s Turkey hat trick means the Alpecin-Deceuninck is now sitting on 18 wins for 2023, the most any male rider has achieved in a single season since Elia Viviani in 2018.

He’s inevitable…

11 October 2023, 12:34
Here we go again…
Prime-Day-Oct-2023

> Best Amazon Prime Day cycling deals live blog, day 2

Another day, another soul-crushing international retail giant throwing deals in your face. Cynical, moi?

11 October 2023, 11:57
Promising British trio set to join DSM development team for 2024

A trio of up-and-coming British riders are set to follow in the wheel tracks of Max Poole and Oscar Onley by joining DSM-Firmenich’s development squad for 2024.

Poole and Onley have both impressed during their neo-pro seasons with DSM’s WorldTour squad this year after coming through the ranks at the Dutch team’s youth setup, with Poole picking up top fives on stages of the Vuelta and Dauphiné, as well as fourth overall at the Tour of Romandie, while his fellow 20-year-old Onley has battled for stage wins at the Tour of Poland and Romandie.

And now, Jacob Bush, Oliver Peace, and Benjamin Peatfield are hoping to replicate Poole and Onley’s path to the WorldTour by also signing for DSM’s development team for next season.

Jacob Bush (DSM)

Jacobs Bush

Multidiscipline star Bush has been snapped up by DSM after a successful 2023 which saw him win the junior British time trial championships, claim third at the national cyclocross champs, finish fifth at the junior worlds TT in Stirling, and finish fourth at the Ain Bugey Valromey Tour in France in July.

“What attracted me most about the team when we initially got in contact is their thoroughness and detail into the components you need to create the most complete bike rider and person, on and off the bike, such as the nutrition, coaching, and material on offer,” the 18-year-old from Peterborough said in a statement today.

“In the juniors I saw myself as a GC rider, I believe I can climb well and also have a good TT and this is something I’d like to continue to develop on with the team in the coming seasons, but as well as this, I think the team and its environment and ethos will most importantly help me to develop my weaknesses in order to make me a more complete rider.”

Oliver Peace (DSM)

Oliver Peace

Meanwhile, Peace – an 18-year-old from Keighley – won the hilly Vuelta a Las Comarcas in Spain, ahead of Bush, last year and finished 13th at the junior Liège-Bastogne-Liège in May, while 20-year-old Peatfield (who finished eighth at an epic, muddy edition of Paris-Roubaix as a junior) remains highly sought after despite injury and illness hampering his 2023 season. However, a second place at the Prix Marcel Bergereau in August, behind fellow British prospect Adam Mitchell, underlines his potential.

Describing himself as “more of a climber”, Peace said: “I’m really looking forward to working with the team to become the best rider I can be. I think I’m more of a climber, and probably most suited to the Ardennes style of climbs and enjoy any hard and selective race really.

“Of course, the aim is to win races together with the team but also to develop as a rider where I dream of making the WorldTour in the future. I also think I’m a good teammate and hope to try to maximise the team’s result from each race as much as possible.”

Benjamin Peatfield (DSM)

Benjamin Peatfield

“I hope to continue to learn, grow, and become the best version of myself with the help of the team,” added Peatfield.

“The classics are always special, and I often produce my best results in these types of races. Although I also like to think I’m quite handy in a bunch sprint or even riding day-in day-out as a domestique so I’m just looking forward to getting stuck in with everything as part of the team.

“I’ve had a tough 2023 with many setbacks and therefore have not performed to my best ability so I can’t wait to build back up to my true level and of course would love to put my hands in the air again.”

11 October 2023, 11:37
New Cycle to Work ‘Flexi Voucher’ founder claims to offer “better experience for cyclists”... but existing provider says it “mimics” its own scheme and is not the “real thing”
11 October 2023, 10:47
Professional cyclists and offensive behaviour and social media posts: A recent history

Unfortunately, Madis Mihkels and Gerben Thijsen aren’t the first pro cyclists to make rude, offensive gestures while in the full glare of the public eye.

Back in 2019, former Quick-Step pro, banned doper, and sometime six-day partner of Mark Cavendish, Iljo Keisse, was thrown off the Vuelta a San Juan, reported to police, and fined by a judge after mimicking a sex act while posing for photo with a female fan.

The fan, an 18-year-old waitress, said she felt “disrespected and worthless” following the incident, which prompted the race organisers to expel Keisse after it became apparent that his Quick-Step team weren’t going to take any action.

> Iljo Keisse thrown out of Vuelta a San Juan and fined by judge following sexual harassment of waitress

In a statement, the organisers said Keisse’s behaviour had “damaged the reputation and honour of the organisation of the Vuelta a San Juan, the UCI, and cycling in general.”

The then-36-year-old Belgian was fined £60, the maximum amount possible under the applicable law.

> “Racism is unacceptable” – Trek-Segafredo reacts to rider’s pro-Trump tweet

A year later, Trek-Segafredo came up with a somewhat more convincing response when their rider, a then-teenage Quinn Simmons, responded to cycling commentator José Been’s tweet encouraging anyone who supported US president Donald Trump to unfollow her by posting the word “Bye” accompanied with an emoji of a black hand.

While Simmons maintained that he did not intend for the emoji to be interpreted as racist, he was withdrawn from racing by Trek-Segafredo for the remainder of the season, with the American team adding that “racism is unacceptable. Period.”

> Team Sky suspend Gianni Moscon for six weeks for racial abuse

And in 2017, Team Sky suspended Gianni Moscon – a magnet for offensive behaviour and racing bans – for six weeks after the Italian racially abused FDJ rider Kevin Reza at the Tour of Romandie.

However, many critics noted at the time that the ban – which also saw the Italian forced to attend a “diversity awareness course” – covered a period during which Moscon wouldn’t have been racing in any case. And despite Sky noting that any further bad behaviour would result in the termination of Moscon’s contract, the Italian was involved in another three high-profile cases where he either hit riders, threw his bike at them, or was accused of deliberately causing crashes, before he was finally let go by the British team at the end of 2021.

11 October 2023, 09:54
Ah, cycling’s eternal question: Can you really buy speed?

> How much faster is an expensive road bike? Testing a top-end race bike vs a Facebook Marketplace bargain

I’m beginning to notice that nobody ever asks me to take part in these bike speed comparison tests. I wonder why…

11 October 2023, 09:40
Pinot goes karting

Cycling fans around the world may still be struggling to get to grips with the whole thing, but it looks like TiboPino is easing into retirement quite nicely, taking some of his Groupama-FDJ mates out for a relaxing day on the go karts yesterday:

Groupama-FDJ go kart day (Thibaut Pinot, Instagram)

Reminds me of the time when we were juniors and Belgian riders would come over to train as part of an exchange programme – expect there wasn’t much training involved. But there was a lot of go karting…

Rudy, stay away from bad influences like Thibaut!   

11 October 2023, 08:40
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‘That’s not a lead-out train… THAT’S a lead-out train’: Caleb Ewan returns home to Jayco-AlUla, as Australian team announce signing with brilliantly bizarre Crocodile Dundee video

‘Sprint on the right side of the road, you pelican!’

It’s been a hard-fought battle over what has felt like an interminably long transfer season – and Lidl-Trek certainly brought their A-game with those novelty t-shirt posts – but the prestigious ‘Social Media Transfer Announcement Post 2023’ award has been snatched at the death by Jayco-AlUla, thanks to this bananas, but surprisingly note-perfect, take on Crocodile Dundee’s final subway scene:

Have you ever seen anything more Australian in your life? Also, Matt White as Sue – perfection…

Anyway, the point of that whole video, aside from brightening up all our mornings, was to announce the signing of Aussie cycling’s very own Mick Dundee, Caleb Ewan, who is returning to the Australian squad he turned pro with nine years ago, on a deal lasting until the end of 2025.

The 29-year-old burst on to the scene with the then-Orica GreenEdge team in the mid-2010s, taking stages at the Giro and Vuelta, before leaving for Belgian squad Lotto in 2019.

After a storming start to his spell at Lotto, winning five Tour de France stages (including one in Paris) and a further four Giro stages, Ewan has endured a frustrating 2023 marked by a series of (sometimes dubious) near misses and a very public falling out with the Lotto Dstny management at the Tour.

> “I’ve seen proof of the Yeti with more pixels”: Caleb Ewan rues another dubious sprint defeat – decided by extremely low-res finish photo

Stéphane Heulot, the team’s CEO, launched a scathing attack against his sprinter in July, questioning Ewan’s “commitment” to the team, comments the Australian’s agent described as “quite disgusting” and “humiliating”.

That breakdown in the relationship between the 29-year-old and the team’s management – Ewan has only raced four times since the Tour, failing to finish on three occasions – opened the door for a return to where it all began, Jayco-AlUla, where he will join old rival Dylan Groenewegen in the Australian outfit’s sprinting ranks.

2023 Tour de France stage 3 Jasper Philipsen, Phil Bauhaus, Caleb Ewan © Zac WiLLIAMS SWpix.com (t-a Photography Hub Ltd) - 1

Ewan has to settle for third on stage three of this year’s Tour, behind Jasper Philipsen and Phil Bauhaus (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

“For us to have another Australian rider which such calibre joining us, it is very special, and he will provide us with another fantastic option to challenge for sprint finishes,” Brent Copeland, Jayco’s general manager, said in a statement this morning.

Meanwhile, Ewan said: “I’m definitely coming back to the team as a more experienced rider, in the last few years I’ve won the biggest races of my career and I think I’ve developed a lot as a rider and also as a leader. When I joined the team initially, I was only 19 or 20, so I was very young. I learnt a lot from the experienced guys that were already there and used that going forward in my career.

“I have developed as a person and as a rider and I look forward to coming back in more of a leadership role. It will be great to be able to help the younger Australians riders too, to reach their potential and in that way also give back to the team.

“The main thing for me will be getting back to winning ways and I hope to bring a lot of success to the team.”

And what better way to announce the return of Australian cycling’s prodigal son than with a reference to one of its most famous film exports?

I can see the press conferences at the Tour now:

‘So, Caleb, what do you make of the team’s new energy gel supplier?’

‘You can live on it… But it tastes like s***’

‘And what are your chances of winning a stage?’

‘Fair.’

‘What are your chances of winning a stage and the green jersey?’

‘Better than average.’

Alright, alright, I know that’s the sequel, don’t make me get Donk on you…

Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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HarrogateSpa replied to Smoggysteve | 6 months ago
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Active travel is vital.

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Surreyrider replied to Smoggysteve | 6 months ago
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It's funny how people on these developments moan that there are no amenities and young people are bored but so many are against the 15-minute city/town idea.

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chrisonabike replied to Smoggysteve | 6 months ago
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Smoggysteve wrote:

I hear what they are saying, but the same could be said for a lot of things a bit more important than active travel. There are far too many large housing estate projects being built in the last decade that have next to zero local infrastructure in the way of schools, shops, doctors surgeries. Getting about is great to go other places but most of these new housing projects should have amenities within walking distance first and foremost. 

Two sides of the same coin.  Not either/or - both!

Given than cycling is a bit like super efficient walking (same effort, much faster and/or further - plus much easier to carry stuff) AND that it neatly bridges the kind of gaps that you get in a decent public transport system (yeah, we don't all have one...) adding in first class support for cycling (not just "it's ... possible" or "just use the path") is rather important in addition to making places more human-scaled.

Plus - if you provide (properly) for cycling you've provided for wheelchair users, many other mobility vehicles, people with other limits to their mobility, safer travel for children, it's much safer for the partially sighted etc.  Active travel shouldn't be "...and those less able can just drive / call taxis / wait in hope for a community bus".

Old faves:  who else benefits from decent cycle infra, inclusive cycling.

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the little onion | 6 months ago
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Re Labour's new towns - given that Starmer essentially endorsed 15 minute neighbourhoods in his speech, there are grounds for optimism 

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mctrials23 replied to the little onion | 6 months ago
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The problem is that if Labour go too hard on these things before the election there is a real problem with the vast number of idiots in this country will forget completely about the last 13 years of shit show under the Tories and vote for them again because they don't want ULEZ and these 15 minutes neighbourhood. Won't something think of the poor suffering motorist. "Its OK, the Tories hear you, we will make sure big bike loses their grip on the country's infrastructure."

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Flintshire Boy replied to mctrials23 | 6 months ago
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'Idiot' = 'someone who dares to have a different opinion to my lefty one'.

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Are you Trendy in disguise?

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hawkinspeter replied to Flintshire Boy | 6 months ago
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Flintshire Boy wrote:

'Idiot' = 'someone who dares to have a different opinion to my lefty one'.

Are you Trendy in disguise?

"Idiot" - meaning someone that has been misled by right-wing mainstream media (and maybe a bunch of right-wing conspiracy focussed media too) into not understanding what a "15 minute" neighbourhood entails.

I can understand non-idiots wanting to push the motor agenda due to lack of critical thinking and understanding of counter-intuitive concepts such as induced demands, but why on earth would people want to always have facilities more than a 15 minute journey away? How does that even work - if you live next door to a doctor's surgery, would you then insist on attending one that's further away, or would you go for demolishing all residences within that 15 minute boundary?

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Cugel replied to Flintshire Boy | 6 months ago
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Flintshire Boy wrote:

'Idiot' = 'someone who dares to have a different opinion to my lefty one'.

Eejit - someone who trawls The Daily Eejit for potted bald opinions  ranted out by the swivel-eyed tightrighty ex public school journo-yob then regurgitates them like a gone-off meaty pie as their own. Which particular Ejit-rag is your, er, choice?  1

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IanMK replied to mctrials23 | 6 months ago
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I don't think labour need to say anything. Gear Change is still a DfT policy document and Active Travel England is a statutory consultee for these developments.

Active Travel England to be consulted on all large planning applications - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

If Labour want to say anything they just say they will adopt current Tory active travel policies.

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Surreyrider replied to mctrials23 | 6 months ago
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I think you're overestimating the number of people who reject ULEZ - most vehicles (more than 9 out of 10) are compliant. Granted in a borough.constituency with a tiny majority it may play a role but generally there is a loud shouty minority in my experience (although I don't doubt that there are inconveniences attached to the scheme).

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Surreyrider | 6 months ago
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Unfortunately  the Media sensationalism around Anti-ULEZ claims they are a violation of our freedom and must be stopped. They are an enemy to all along side 20mph zones, LTNs and speed limits in general, after all...

 

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Dnnnnnn replied to the little onion | 6 months ago
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New towns could be an opportunity to build something exceptionally good on a large scale. There are plenty engineers, architects and planners who'd love to do it. I hope they'll be given the chance but...

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Dnnnnnn replied to Dnnnnnn | 6 months ago
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[replying to myself...] there does also need to be a big push on regenerating existing urban cores too, with lots more housing and active travel amenability. Our existing-but-struggling town and city centres are well-suited to being attractive 15 minute neighbourhoods - but there needs to be a concerted effort to repurpose and revitalise them.

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Surreyrider replied to Dnnnnnn | 6 months ago
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Exactly. Before building new, focus on regenerating what is already there in disrepair. 

I don't want to offend anyone from Milton Keynes but it's not to my liking!

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chrisonabike replied to Dnnnnnn | 6 months ago
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And - the difficult point - choosing not to drive some trips must be relatively attractive compared to driving them.

Milton Keynes is the example (also Stevenage).  The cycling infra certainly isn't perfect at all but would still be considered "good" for much of the UK (even places that have some...) BUT the town was designed to be superbly convenient to drive.

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andystow replied to Dnnnnnn | 6 months ago
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Dnnnnnn wrote:

New towns could be an opportunity to build something exceptionally good on a large scale. There are plenty engineers, architects and planners who'd love to do it. I hope they'll be given the chance but...

I'm a firm believer that we'd have to get really lucky to have a designer or design team create something better than mediocre... at the risk of creating more Le Corbusier style atrocities.

We've known for at least thousands of years how to build great walkable places, mostly organically with some ground rules, as settlements became villages, then towns, then cities, and buildings got repurposed or replaced as needs changed.

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quiff replied to andystow | 6 months ago
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andystow wrote:

at the risk of creating more Le Corbusier style atrocities.

There's the name for the new towns design competition: "come and help us design the UK's next Atro-cities!"

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hawkinspeter replied to quiff | 6 months ago
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quiff wrote:

There's the name for the new towns design competition: "come and help us design the UK's next Atro-cities!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iywaBOMvYLI

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