Last week on the live blog, we reported on the live blog that perennial French housewives’ favourite Tommy Voeckler joined the ever-growing ranks of cyclists who can run pretty fast by completing the Paris Half Marathon in a very impressive time of 1:13.21.
That was enough to secure the former Europcar star, now manager of the French national team, fourth in his age category (which included former three-time European triathlon champion Frédéric Belaubre) and 179th overall out of 48,000 entrants.
And Tommy even topped it all off by finishing his run and rushing across to the France Télévisions studio to commentate on the opening stage of Paris-Nice.
> Retired pro cyclist Tommy Voeckler clocks super-fast 1:13.21 at Paris half-marathon while gurning for the TV cameras – before heading off to commentate on Paris-Nice
But it turns out that gurner-in-chief Voeckler wasn’t the only retired pro cyclist running the streets of Paris last week.
Yesterday, 35-time Tour de France stage winner Sir Mark Cavendish posted a collection of snaps on Instagram from his recent stay in the French capital – the scene of four consecutive Tour victories for the Manx Missile between 2009 and 2012 – featuring a more relaxing than usual amble along the Champs-Élysées, a trip to the Louvre, a PSG match, breakfast pastries, coffee… and a stab at the Paris Half Marathon.
Cavendish’s decision to interrupt his well-deserved retirement with some running – he said last winter he plans to spend the first spring of his retirement taking on the Paris Marathon with his brother – saw him cover the half distance in a highly respectable time of 1:57.08.
Sure, he’s a fair bit off grand tour winner-turned-amateur running king Tom Dumoulin, who clocked a blistering half marathon time of 1:08.42 in January, but for a first go, Cav’s time was not too shabby at all.
Or so we thought. Because, along with the usual jokes about sprinting past everyone in the last 200m or needing a decent lead-out train, the grumpy running corner of the internet (who weren’t even that impressed with Dumoulin’s time, it must be said) has reacted to Cavendish’s Paris Half Marathon attempt with the social media equivalent of an eye roll and a barely contained tut.
> Former pro cyclist Tom Dumoulin clocks a blistering 1:08:42 half marathon... but grumpy runners aren't impressed
“I wouldn't want that time posted all over social media!” wrote Neil Bardsley, while Rob Burns asked: “Was he in a Dalek costume?”
“Dead slow for a world class athlete,” concluded Ken Nuttley, while Kurt Oehlberg said: “I would have expected a bit faster time given his years of cardio fitness.”
“How on earth can he run that slow after 20 years of cardio training? Sounds strange,” agreed Christian Ebert.
“He must have walked,” suggested Narasimhan. I’m sure he could do a sub-90 with the power and endurance he has.”
“Honestly I would have expected much better from a professional cyclist,” said Chris Gilligan. “Maybe he was running with his wife, or a group or something.”
“He must have been taking it very easy,” added Paul Wright, while Peter Williams joked that Cav’s attempt was “not a bad time running in cleats”.
(A.S.O./Thomas_Maheux)
Others weren’t as charitable, however.
“Not as easy as cycling, is it?” jabbed Andrew Cooke, as Kaleb Torgerson wondered whether the 2011 world champion was trying to “outdo Phil Gaimon with the worst retirement ever?”
And a very chuffed Rob Green said: “Well, I couldn’t ride a bike as fast as he did, but I now know I can run a half marathon quicker than he can.”
> Mark Cavendish wins “special” BBC Lifetime Achievement award after record-breaking final season
Thankfully, not everyone joined in on the Cav trolling.
“Why is everyone being so mean?” asked Gil MacLeod.
“Not very welcoming to a new runner, we all have to start somewhere,” wrote Gordon Graham. “Slagging him off for his time is disgraceful. He doesn’t call you when he sees your times on the bike on Strava. Well done, Mark Cavendish.”
“Very well done, Mark Cavendish. You absolute legend,” added Paul Starr. “Running and cycling two completely different disciplines. Great achievement.”
And Eric Tofflemire noted: “He was a sprinter with roots in track cycling. Reprogramming everything from explosive strength cycling, to endurance running is more difficult than many are recognising. Well done, Sir!”
(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
“Might be nice to see some of you ‘experts’ going on about PBs get on a bike for four hours at 40kph+, and then sprint for 400m at 70kph! Any of you up for it?” asked David Robinson. I can hear crickets chirping…
“Well done Mark, you’re a proper hero and champion. Any armchair warrior throwing shade here is not worthy to pump your tyres,” said Chinedu, while Jonathan said: “Guys give it to the GOAT. He just wants to run, okay?”
And Chris Madge concluded: “His time is irrelevant really, fair play to you Mark Cavendish.”
Now that’s the kind of attitude we should all take – let the man enjoy his retirement for goodness’ sake. Even if it means… shudder… running for enjoyment.
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"Why is everyone being so mean?" asks Cav, the man who screamed at mechanics, sulked through interviews and flounced off on several occasions.
Or you could have read the article and realised he didn't say that, just an idea...
Maybe 'Gil MacLeod' is just his nom d'internet.
Re: Anti Cycling Bingo
"Road Maintenance – Comments suggest street sweepers cannot properly clean these areas, leading to debris and a higher risk of punctures."
Unfortunatley, this happens to be true...as per pic. I ride around the right side of these bollards during the winter months.
You're right - there's not space to get a dustpan and brush in there, never mind a broom.
Hmm... have I just found the solution there? https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2011/06/30/how-wide-is-a-dutch-cycle-...
"The older community leaving in that area some have stopped driving because of the bollards.”
In all the other vacuous excuses for opposing anything that makes cycling safer, this one stood out. Pity they don't specify how old is "older" and how many are in the community of olders. If they can't cope with bollards, they can't cope with cyclists and shouldn't be driving.
🎵 I rode my bike in the cycle lane
🎵 Dreamed a dream it was smooth and clean
🎵 I rode it through the leaves and glass
🎵 Dirty old bollards, dirty old bollards!
It's nice to see a number of people confirming they know the square root of zero (f-all to those of us from Essex) about two sports, not just one. Well done Cav, good effort.
bang on, a sub 2hr effort for a first attempt is not bad at all, especially when he's spent his entire life cycling not running. Plus I would hazard a guess that as he's only recently retired he's not exactly been throwing himself into it.
A 1.57 HM isn't anything to write home about. But as you say, he probably hasn't trained too hard and probably treated it as a fun run, high fiving spectators every few yards.
Thomas Voeckler's time would probably win a medal at the British over 45 HM champs. It isn't super fast, but is good for his age.
The main point is that both of them could go a fair bit faster if they wanted to do the work.
Both of them have had great sporting careers with nothing more to prove.
Debris in cycle lanes, such as leaves in the autumn, can be a hazard. I would suggest that anybody caught parking in a cycle lane should be given a brush, a cloth, and a bottle of jif and told to get on with it. They'll need to wear high viz though, otherwise they'll be invisible.
Or perhaps anyone cycling past such a cycle lane should be given a spray can of paint stripper…
Plus they should be wearing lights, even in the daytime.
Squadrats sounds like a complete rip-off of Ride Every Tile, which originated with Veloviewer.
Squadrats is really clean. No complaints. Plus people like me, who live on the seafront, can use swims and paddleboard trips to build that square.
The Veloviewer based tile explorers also recognise any type of activity - swims, kayaking, etc.
As any fan of the World Bollard Association can tell you, a good bollard can be so beautiful it brings tears to the eyes. A pinnacle of human culture. Up there with the greatest paintings, music and literature
Needless to say (but here goes anyway) the bollards get dirty because motorists crash into them, which further justifies having them there because it is clear motorists can't stay out of the cycle lane bollards or not.
On the other hand riding anything other than a single such as towing a trailer in a cycle lane lined with bollards needs a lot of concentration
Yup - while I'm normally "more bollards" this needs nuance.
What about moving those real bollards from the inside of the cycle lane to the outside, next to the motor traffic? Where they'd be a lot more useful than wands?
In fact - to make it safer for drivers why not have bollards down the centre of the carriageway also, to protect drivers from other drivers getting their overtake wrong? Overtaking is very dangerous - effectively doubles impact speed *!
What's that? "But drivers can't wait while some other driver drops someone off"? Nothing to stop them getting out and walking round the obstacle if they're in such a rush.
Eh? "But it's unsafe as drivers will hit them?" Well a) that shows the need for them and b) it's far safer for drivers to hit the bollards than cyclists, yet in the before situation everyone was happy for cyclists to have that risk. But apparent not drivers...?
* Has been done here at least: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking#Nationwide_ban_on_overtaking_...
I rode Doi Inthanon in Thailand this time last year, a 38km climb to over 2,500 metres. About 8km from the top there is a 2km section that doesn't drop below 20% which, with the added effect of the altitude, is really, really tough.
It has bollards in the centre of the road to stop drivers overtaking, as there are few straights and head-on crashes sadly were not uncommon. Nice idea, unfortunately as you weave your way up at barely 5kph drivers have no choice but to close pass you (fortunately slowly and carefully in my experience) if they don't wish to be stuck behind you for the best part of half an hour. There is nowhere to pull over to let them pass and, even if there was, you'd never get going again as it's so ridiculously steep!
Cyclists are banned from riding this section (after the 2nd national park checkpoint) unless you have a support vehicle, and banned from descending. Which, personally, I think is quite sensible despite being someone who thinks the only reason for climbing a mountain is that you get to come back down again 😂
Eh? How do they overtake you in the first place if you have to have a support vehicle? Surely they wouldn't be able to pass that in order to close pass you?
The support vehicle doesn't have to be behind you, it can go ahead to the car park at the pagoda - as ours did, driven by my brother-in-law - or even to the very top and wait for you there.
I have great respect for the Thais, but that's an extreme example. Firstly people cycling up 400m to get the shopping, or get to school - but frankly people driving up to do the same (the rush hour commute to the office must be something...)
Well, since you must still be up there, I hope you enjoy the view!
Cycling in Thailand is very much either a middle-class activity, or for older, poorer folks in the villages on an ancient, heavy, poorly maintained sit-up-and-beg. Commuting by bike is, sadly, unheard of, as is popping to the shops. Everyone drives, car or motorbike / scooter such as a Honda Click. Though, to be fair, when the temperature is in the low 40s as it often is at this time of year with the sun approaching top dead centre at midday, even I can see the appeal of an air conditioned car!
I did a tiny bit of cycling in Chiang Mai a very long time ago, on a hired bike. And that was only because the idea of doing so on a motor scooter was even more terrifying.
I didn't see anyone who looked richer cycling. LOTS of motor scooters / motor bikes loaded precariously though. I did encounter some novel traffic features e.g. the "any way you can" through larger junctions at busy times (speeds slow enough that people managed to avoid each other). And the odd elephant (TBF memory is not certain that was Chiang Mai and not another city there - but certainly urban elephant).
Would these bollards make the cut for the WBA? They make this into a no-through road which, as it's part of NCN 1 plus the cycling route from the largest University in the city into town. A nice idea, especially as there are legally parked cars on both sides of the road. Note there is one on the footway as well to prevent naughty motorists (I'm informed that they do exist) driving around the ones in the road 😁
I approve of them - it's a pity they need to put a bollard on the pavement where it's a hazard to people * but that temptation is still very real for UK drivers.
This kind of modal filtering goes back a way, even in the UK. We've some in Edinburgh e.g. here (another approach here - this has more obstacles for cyclists). The first situation is OK but the general problem with them is suggested by the image. Where drivers can't drive through, well then that place is obviously for parking. So they tend to get a bit clogged.
This probably sounds like some ridiculous quibble, but in fact we need cycling route networks - and routes created this way play an important part and need to be as convenient and pleasant as we can make them (they're for the cyclists who aren't cycling today).
The ultimate culprit is in part the UK's "driving first" approach with the idea that you can generally park anywhere you are not specifically prohibited. (And even then it usually attracts no penalty for a given length of time).
* Same applies for those in the path of cyclists of course.
To be fair the pavement is pretty wide, easily enough room for a person in a wheelchair to go around, and pedestrians travelling at 4kph aren't inconvenienced at all. Better than drivers cutting through, wrecking the slabs in the process.
The infrastucture in the image you posted is pretty poor - the bike cut through will soon be full of broken glass etc. If you have effective bollards, why do you also need a kerb / pavement?
You already have cycling route networks that go almost everywhere -- you just need to correct the abuse of those networks by some users. Which is not trivial, but it's a damn sight easier, cheaper, and friendlier to the environment, than hopelessly trying to build a redundant infrastructure dedicated to one type of vehicle.
As everyone who has attempted the latter, has already learned, painfully in most cases.
There is a point there - we should abandon building cycle infra, pedestrian infra and motorways.
We should all just use infra we've had for years, which has been "redundantly dedicated to one type of vehicle".
Railways.
The quest for better humans has been going a long time now. There's some debate, but there *does* seems to have been some progress ... since the mesolithic. So there's that.
If only they'd only obey the law, or be more pro- social, the world would be so much better!
But... even if they did, it wouldn't make things much better for cycling.
Personally I ride most places that are legal(ish). But I'm fortunate to stay in a part of Edinburgh where i get to cycle on some completely car-free routes, as well as very low traffic ones.
And ... it's just much *nicer*, and - no coincidence - that's where i see other people cycling *. And it makes me look at the vast expanses of tarmac elsewhere, regularly chewed up and patched, and the unpleasant big roundabouts, and the irritating traffic lights - and wonder. Why am i paying for this *really* expensive stuff that I don't need and which only seems to encourage people to choose to travel by motor vehicle?
Build for multiple vehicle types ** - including cars - and it ends up being effectively dedicated to one - cars. (The mantra is actually mix where possible - which still requires "infra" to "tame the drivers" - but separate where necessary eg. greater motor speeds or volumes).
* Apart from the kids in the park and the recent phenomenon of food delivery riders. Oh and roadies doing training laps of Arthur's Seat - another often-car-free road.
** Actually in practice we don't in the UK. We just build solely for the convenience of motor vehicle users. We simply don't actively ban the others in most places. And throw sops to pedestrians with their own separate infra - footways. (Which are just good enough, in places. ) We could certainly use a bit more policing of driving and parking in those, sure!
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