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"Never listen to Lance Armstrong about anything": Phil Gaimon hits back at disgraced cheat's "don't give them a reason to doubt you" warning to Tadej Pogačar; Four-time winner Chris Froome convinces oblivious Tour security guard + more on the live blog

It's Blue Monday in the cycling world, the Tour de France done and dusted for another year — join Dan Alexander as he attempts to fill the void with your Monday live blog...
22 July 2024, 07:38
"Never listen to Lance Armstrong about anything": Phil Gaimon hits back at disgraced cheat's "don't give them a reason to doubt you" warning to Tadej Pogačar

Former pro cyclist-turned-Strava KOM hunter Phil Gaimon addressed the comments of a certain other retired American cyclist, you know, the one who had seven yellow jerseys stripped for doping. Lance Armstrong bulldozed his way into the final weekend of the Tour de France, warning Tadej Pogačar "don't give people a reason to hate you" and "don't give them a reason to doubt you" after the Slovenian ruthlessly won his fourth stage of the race, at Isola 2000 on Friday, picking off the breakaway riders to beat Matteo Jorgenson with another brutal mountain performance.

Tadej Pogačar wins stage 15 of the 2024 Tour de France (ASO/Charly Lopez)

Armstrong called cycling a "political game", claiming relevance and being the person best qualified to talk about the subject because... I guess, he got caught for one of sport's worst cheating scandals so... he's allowed to make mysterious comments about future generations? Something like that...

Gaimon was unimpressed, telling his podcast: "Never, ever listen to Lance Armstrong about anything." Cool, story done, next...

Only joking, he added on the episode released yesterday: "This was the performance  (Isola 2000) that put it over the line for some folks, this is unbelievable, we don't believe in this guy any more.

"People keep doing these climb comparisons. They're looking at the climbs from Pantani and Lance and Ulrich and all those guys. And of course, Tadej smashed a tonne of those this year. And you look at that, it's like, oh, well, that's a bad sign. But then look at this is 25, 30 years ago for a lot of those. Think about if you went to ride Pantani's bike right now up a hill, you'd be like, 'ew'. Everything has progressed. All sports progress, technology has progressed, aerodynamics, equipment.

The Tour de France bikes that won on the Plateau de Beille in 1998 and 2024 - July 2024

> Comparing the Tour de France bikes that won on the Plateau de Beille in 1998 and 2024: Marco Pantani's Bianchi Mega Pro XL vs Tadej Pogačar's Colnago V4Rs

"And then you get into like nutrition and training. Every sport is going to get faster over time. Cycling from a certain era was going to regress a little bit and then progress over time. Am I saying Tadej is clean? No, I don't know that guy. But I see a lot of comments like, 'man, don't be naive, everyone's doing it'. No, they're not. That is absolutely not true. I know a lot of guys in the peloton still, I'm very close friends with a handful of them.

"I'm not best friends with anyone on the podium, but I'm super tight with people who are very high up, who have gotten significant results this year, whose names have been mentioned in these events, who I trust thoroughly. So is everyone doing it?
No, even back then, that wasn't the case."

Tadej Pogačar (ASO/Laure Boutiot)

 Pogačar was of course on hand to collect his prize for winning the Tour last night — a press conference with questions about doping...to which he replied: "There will always be doubts because cycling was damaged so much in the past, before my time. In any sport, if somebody is winning there's always jealousy, there's always haters. If you don't have haters, then you're not succeeding. 

"In cycling, WADA and the UCI invested a lot of money and time to make this sport clean. I think this is one of the cleanest sports in the whole world because of what happened so many years ago. I tell you now, it's not worth it. I think taking anything that can risk your health or your heart is super stupid. You can cycle until you're 35, but there's a long way to enjoy life afterwards. It would be stupid to do this and risk your life for stupid racing."

22 July 2024, 16:20
Dame Sarah Storey selected for ninth Paralympic Games
Dame Sarah Storey (Image credit: SWpix)

Britain's most successful Paralympic athlete Dame Sarah Storey has been selected for a ninth Games and will be looking to defend the titles she has held for the past three Paralympics in the C5 time-trial and C4-5 road race.

"Competing in nine Games is a dream I didn't ever have. As a teenager I wanted to be an athlete for as long as I possibly could but always assumed I'd be too old by 46! I've got such a great support around me, led by my brilliant husband Barney and am very excited to pull on ParalympicsGB kit again," she said.

22 July 2024, 15:43
"We used to have a life": Chants of "no more cyclists" at anti-tourism protest in Mallorca as residents complain of tourists driving up cost of living
22 July 2024, 14:54
Ben Stiller congratulates Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard on Tour de France
22 July 2024, 14:09
"Right now, there is nothing that says that it’s being used in the optic of performance enhancement": Movement for Credible Cycling not calling for carbon monoxide rebreathers ban yet
Tadej Pogačar, Jonas Vingegaard and Matteo Jorgenson climb at the 2024 Tour de France (ASO/Charly Lopez)

It was one of the hot topics at this year's Tour de France, the news that UAE Team Emirates, Visma-Lease a Bike and Israel-Premier Tech all admitted that they were using a controversial, but legal, device called a carbon monoxide rebreather during altitude camps to test riders' progress.

What it all comes down to is that testing using the expensive device, which allows precise dosages of the deadly gas to be inhaled into the lungs, is safe and does not have a performance-enhancing effect. This is what cycling teams are using them for currently.

However, some have expressed discomfort at the fact the very same devices and techniques could be used by those looking to artificially boost haemoglobin.

> What is carbon monoxide rebreathing and why is the entire Tour de France talking about it? Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard insist it's "nothing suspicious" and "just a simple test", but others are less convinced

The Movement for Credible Cycling (MPCC) has told Cyclingnews that rebreathers are "not a subject" it is looking to call to ban at the moment. "We're talking about something hypothetical rather than something suspicious, so you have to be careful," the organisation's president Roger Legeay explained. "Right now, there is nothing that says that it's being used in the optic of performance enhancement, so it's not a subject at the moment."

22 July 2024, 12:36
Cycling UK calls on Labour government to put "divisive rhetoric" around active travel to bed "once and for all" with "coherent and committed" investment for cycling
22 July 2024, 12:22
22cm bars... what does an Olympic track rider's road bike look like?

 "It's not everyday you build a bike for an Olympian, and this is one interesting build!" the people from Saddleback wrote on Instagram. You can say that again...

Neah Evans' 22cm bars (Saddleback/Instagram)

"Built for track superstar @neah.evans, this @envecomposites Melee features some special modifications to fit the specifications and bike fit requirements. The 22cm wide cockpit is quite a stand-out feature!" they continued. 

22 July 2024, 11:01
"I've only ever jumped up and down screaming at the TV twice": Reaction to Mark Cavendish bowing out of Tour de France

Cav was honoured by the race organisation as well, getting his own special podium presentation alongside the other classification winners...

For those particularly at a loss for something to do tomorrow lunchtime, Eurosport presenter Orla Chennaoui posted on social media: "Mark Cavendish will be arriving at Heathrow T5 tomorrow (Tuesday) at 1300. Let's get a little flash Cav Homecoming thing going shall we?"

Mark Cavendish's Tour de France stage-winning bikes July 2024

 > Mark Cavendish's Tour de France stage-winning bikes — from Giant to Wilier, every bike the Manx Missile rode to his record-breaking 35 Tour stage wins

Some reaction from you guys...

Cav Facebook comment

Jakrayan: "I've only ever jumped up and down screaming at the TV twice. The first time was watching the Worlds in Copenhagen. The second was seeing the same racer hit the front with about 200m to go just over two weeks ago. 

"Thank you Cav, for many things, but particularly for making me understand why and how people get so emotional when watching sport. I shed many tears after number 35, not ashamed to admit it, and I am delighted that you are going out with a fairytale ending after the crappy years, and particularly after being forced to pull out last year with the broken collarbone when you'd already come so close."

Rendel Harris: "Thanks Cav, you've added huge interest, excitement and joy to my watching of pro cycling and especially the Tour for the last nineteen years and finishing your last Tour by finally capturing the elusive #35 was a highlight of the year. Good luck with wherever the sport, or life, takes you in future!"

22 July 2024, 10:02
Drone shots impress during final time trial
22 July 2024, 09:53
"Exhausted" Jonas Vingegaard looking forward to taking a break, while fired-up Remco Evenepoel takes aim at his critics
Tour de France 2024 podium Tadej Pogačar, Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel (ASO/Billy Ceusters)

Jonas Vingegaard quickly shut down any ideas that he could ride the Vuelta a España, telling Eurosport he needs a rest and has never "been this tired after a Grand Tour before".

"Unfortunately not this year," he confirmed. "I have different priorities this year, but for sure I will be there again in the future. I'm tired, I don't think I've ever been this tired after a Grand Tour before. To be honest, I'm exhausted, and I need a bit of rest now. It's been quite some journey because it's only three and a half months ago I had the worst crash of my career, breaking almost every bone in the upper right side of my body, and puncturing both lungs."

Meanwhile, the Dane's fellow podium finisher Remco Evenepoel had some critics to respond to...

22 July 2024, 09:50
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22 July 2024, 09:22
"Sometimes cycling seems like it's for white people only, but now he teaches us that cycling is for all the world"

Biniam Girmay's historic moment arrived in Nice last night — three stage wins later, the first black African to win one stood on the Tour de France podium adorned in green. 

Biniam Girmay podium 2024 Tour de France (ASO/Billy Ceusters)

A journey from Asmara to Nice, via the World Cycling Centre in Switzerland, a facility Girmay was invited to train at after being spotted by a UCI scout as a 12-year-old winning a mountain bike race in Eritrea. Culture shocks, initial challenges adapting to Europe's colder climate, and visa issues were all part of Girmay's story since. Gent-Wevelgem two years ago was the breakthrough moment, a Giro d'Italia stage in the same year a monumental step too — but three stages of the Tour de France, the green jersey and a place at cycling's very top table is on another level entirely.

The impact of Girmay's success was seen online during these past three weeks, in videos from Eritrea, the streets packed with celebrating faces, a country inspired by his achievements.

Biniam Girmay (ASO/Charly Lopez)

Mani Arthur, who runs the Black Cyclists Network and has competed for Ghana, told the BBC: "We don't really see many black riders, especially from Africa, competing in the Tour de France. So to see Girmay not only be competing but to also win a much coveted stage is incredible. He's proven himself to be amongst the best riders in the world."

Eritrean cycling coach Aklilu Haile added: "Sometimes cycling seems like it's for white people only, but now he teaches us that cycling is for all the world."

22 July 2024, 08:55
Four-time winner Chris Froome convinces oblivious Tour security guard to let him through to race finish without pass

'No, really... Monsieur, I really did win this four times... Please... Let me in...'

Thankfully, Froome made it through without a repeat of the incident at the 2018 Tour which saw him pushed from his bike by an overzealous gendarme who thought he was a fan descending the mountain too soon after the stage had finished...

Froome policeman incident 2018 Tour

Then, in 2021, he was mistaken for a 'leisure rider' on French TV after being turned back due to forest fires in the South of France.

Chris Froome mistaken for leisure cyclist (screenshot via France 2)

I bet David Beckham never has to deal with this... 

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Rome73 | 4 months ago
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Sorry but Froome sounds like an arrogant 'do you know who I am' t**t. If you need accreditation to get passed then get it. Don't expect officials to risk their jobs just becuase they don't recognise you. And even if they did, that doesn't give you the right to get passed anyway. 

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Rendel Harris replied to Rome73 | 4 months ago
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Rome73 wrote:

Sorry but Froome sounds like an arrogant 'do you know who I am' t**t. If you need accreditation to get passed then get it. Don't expect officials to risk their jobs just becuase they don't recognise you. And even if they did, that doesn't give you the right to get passed anyway. 

Have you considered that maybe the guard was wrong and that he didn't need accreditation, that maybe he was told by the organisers he could just come along and they would let him in? Clearly accreditation was not essential as the guard eventually did let him in. Best not to judge without the full facts.

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cmedred | 4 months ago
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Pog would be so much more believable if he didn't sound so much like Lance.

Pog: "I think this is one of the cleanest sports in the whole world because of what happened so many years ago. I tell you now, it's not worth it. I think taking anything that can risk your health or your heart is super stupid. I think this is one of the cleanest sports in the whole world because of what happened so many years ago. I tell you now, it's not worth it. I think taking anything that can risk your health or your heart is super stupid."

It sounds a lot like Lance talking about how the Tour is clean because of, well, Festina, and how he'd never dope because of, well,  "cancer.''  And all this worrying about health risks from people who regularly engage in high-speed, potentially deadly downhill runs on their bikes on a regular basis. 

Hopefully, Pog is clean. But it might feel better if he just said: "I"m not doping. I don't know what else to tell you. You'll have to take my word for it, I guess, because I can't bring myself to offer phony claims as to how that wouldn't be healthy.'' 

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Rendel Harris replied to cmedred | 4 months ago
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cmedred wrote:

Hopefully, Pog is clean. But it might feel better if he just said: "I"m not doping. I don't know what else to tell you. You'll have to take my word for it, I guess, because I can't bring myself to offer phony claims as to how that wouldn't be healthy.'' 

But if he isn't doping and that is one of his main motivations not to then his claims aren't phony. Honestly, I know we're all geared towards suspicion and for good reason but he really is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, isn't he?

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And all this worrying about health risks from people who regularly engage in high-speed, potentially deadly downhill runs on their bikes on a regular basis. 

That's a totally nonsensical argument, on that basis you can't believe anyone who says they care about their health if they undertake any potentially dangerous activities as part of their job or hobbies. I'm fond of a good descent myself (nothing like Tour speeds but 80 km/h or so on a good surface with a clear run), I don't disregard my health the rest of the time on the basis that I could be killed doing it. These are young men who devote their lives to achieving superhuman levels of fitness, just because their pursuit also involves high risk activities doesn't mean you can write off as nonsense any claim that they care about their health.

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Hirsute | 4 months ago
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Couple of dashcams from the w/e

Interesting one asking who is a fault

https://youtu.be/4ZVZBFRWTEQ?t=142

Driver fails to understand the difference between middle of the lane and middle of the road. Fails to think about where to overtake safely and what happens even if the overtake is ok.

https://youtu.be/jDMr4AEEn8M?t=124

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mdavidford replied to Hirsute | 4 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

who is a fault

I'm going to go with pretty much everybody:

  1. That's a terrible place to park your heavy machinery towing truck - 243 DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space (I can't tell whether the parking bays extend that far, but if so then we can add a share of the blame to whoever approved that layout).
  2. The driver of the car doesn't indicate until the very last minute, and presumably isn't checking their mirrors sufficiently to realise that the cyclist is there.
  3. The cyclist was probably a little reckless in diving in to that space when, even if they hadn't been turning, the driver was still likely to be moving left, further in to the lane, having passed the parked vehicle.
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Tom_77 replied to mdavidford | 4 months ago
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This is the location from the dashcam overlay - https://maps.app.goo.gl/WZF7QD1PvVodr6mP6

Possibly the cyclist thought the driver was going to turn right, that would explain the attempt to pass on the left.

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BalladOfStruth replied to Hirsute | 4 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Driver fails to understand the difference between middle of the lane and middle of the road. Fails to think about where to overtake safely and what happens even if the overtake is ok.

https://youtu.be/jDMr4AEEn8M?t=124

Gotta say, I went into that comment section expecting a fight, but the general consensus (surprisingly) seems to be that "yeah, he's obviously going to take primary approaching a junction, why would you even think of overtaking there?!".

Maybe we're finally getting somewhere?

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Hirsute replied to BalladOfStruth | 4 months ago
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Yes, I could only find loads of comments against the driver and none against the cyclist.

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 4 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

who is a fault

I'm not convinced that it's the cyclist, on either of those clips 

#1 - motorist overtakes cyclist who is overtaking (badly) parked heavy plant, then thinks that they have evaporated so it's safe to turn left.

#2 - motorist clearly doesn't realise that the approach to a junction is a really bad place to overtake a cyclist, cyclist disagrees so moves right ever so slightly so as to discourage said unsafe overtake.

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Tom_77 | 4 months ago
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Guardian interview with Victoria Pendleton

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mctrials23 replied to Tom_77 | 4 months ago
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Well that was a fucking depressing read. Poor woman. 

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ROOTminus1 replied to Tom_77 | 4 months ago
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She has been through so much shit. Her successes during and since her cycling career are remarkable achievements.

She's one of so many athletes British Cycling, particularly of that era, have utterly failed

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