Near Miss of the Day 616: Skip lorry driver forces cyclist onto pavement with ultra-close pass (includes swearing)

I quite like the Essex Police submission form, a simple single page document with the option to say the timestamp is incorrect, accepts mp4 uploads (met police I have to constantly convert to another format).

Probably best not to send it though. Wouldn't want to get prosecuted for riding on the pavement.

Was going to mention similar that they are sometimes paid by the load rather then per hour.

Reminded me when I was working on a factory, we used to get skips for the waste metals. The driver would make several trips a day and was always driving dangerously and rushing the empty skip drops. One day the road outside our factory was closed for filming a movie (Felicias Journey). Just as they started the scene, the skip driver comes barreling around the corner where he had taken the opposite side of the road to avoid the barriers and signs and whizzed past the vintage bus before coming into the factory gates. 

Skip lorries and tipper trucks have terrible records on road safety, the worst of any HGV types. As mentioned, a lot of this is down to the way the drivers are paid, by the load. This means drivers are often trying to get as fast as they can from here to there. But there are other reaasons too and it's fair to say that the way many of the smaller companies are run, and the people who run them, also plays a large role. Let's just say that sailing close to the wind with regards to legality isn't unknown for a number of the smaller companies. And if you research onvolment with road crashes, it is of note how the same names crop up time after time as the directors of various companies with different names.

I'm not saying all tipper truck or skip delivery truck firms are run that way, not at all. But I am saying the likelihood of these firms being run in such a way is more likely than for other HGV categories. And those firms that do flout the law often leave a lot of damage in their wake. 

Skip lorries and tipper trucks have terrible records on road safety, the worst of any HGV types

FX62 AYH is heading straight through that red light at 60 mph

I experienced 3 empty Masons tipper trucks racing each other from the TGI Friday roundabout to the worksite by Reading Station.

Proper scary...

Not Mason's, Manor.

carlosdsanchez wrote:

I agree with the previous comment, I have submitted numerous videos with an inaccurate time stamp, you just have to mention it on your statement.

Same here. https://www.nextbase.com/en-gb/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

"DO I NEED TO HAVE A DATE/TIME STAMP ON MY VIDEO FOOTAGE? IF SO, MUST THIS BE EXACTLY THE RIGHT?

Ideally the date and time would be correct, but don’t forget that the video footage is used to support your written witness statement. If the time/date stamp in your video is incorrect, it is not an issue provided you refer to this in your statement.

For example: “The date and time stamp displayed in the video/photograph is incorrect. This incident happened at 3pm on Thursday 12th April 2018”"

good to know, will see what avon and somerset police have to say

I've submitted loads of close passes etc. to A&S with front and rear footage having different timestamps and they've never stated that it is a problem. I always tick the box for the time/date being correct as I don't think it's relevant if the front and rear are out by half an hour or so. I get the impression that they only need an approximate time, so 15 minutes out is neither here nor there.

Thank you. Please let us know the outcome.

TonyE-H wrote:

It absolutely can be sent to the police with an incorrect timestamp, typicaly the police will then send you a form to sign confiming the timestamp is inocrrect. (Have done this a couple of times with Met Police due to issues with GoPro timestamps).

This question is answered in the FAQ for NextBase on their website. I don't see why it would be any different for another police force.

Yep, the Go Pro timestamps applied by the software to the videos seems to default to GMT even if set correctly on the device. 

Yeah, it's an issue they've known about for years but never bothered to fix, and looking at the mobile app they seem to have removed the ability to add the timestamp (I've only been able to do it using the now unsupported desktop software).

I've already sent them a message through facebook. They have no email address on their website that I could find. It hasn't even been looked at.

Yep, Greenfield Waste are a regular menace on the roads in the Chew Valley area. I don't expect they care much that we think that either.