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Near Miss of the Day 621: “What a w*nker!” – Angry van driver accelerates past group of cyclists with hand on the horn

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Berkshire...

“What a wanker!” – That’s the description a member of a group of cyclists gave of an angry van driver who drove post the riders with hand firmly on the horn after they pulled over to the side of the road to let him past, and from the video, it’s hard to disagree with that opinion.

Andrew, the road.cc reader who filmed the footage, told us: “Ignore the timestamp on the video – this took place on Saturday 7th August at about 10.30am on Broadcommon Lane near Hurst in Berkshire. I’m a member of 700cc cycling club out of Windsor and this was a regular route we do, usually trying to stick to quieter roads.

“As you can see from the video, we saw the van driver a long way down the road and all slowed and moved across but he (assume the driver was male) actually then accelerated past us with his hand on the horn. It was pretty scary, especially for those at the front.

“I’ve reported it to Thames Valley Police via their online portal, although other members have told me that unless anyone is actually hit and/or injured they won’t take any action.

“Seems a pretty poor approach to me, but then I’m just a lowly cyclist,” he added. “Perhaps the new Highway Code will force some changes in attitudes for the police as well as drivers.”

> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.

If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).

Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.

> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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bencolem | 2 years ago
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I think the van mistook the squealing racket of the disc brakes as the mating call of another van honking its horn and was responding in kind. Then again, I'm probably wrong because those squealing disc brakes sounded much louder than the van's horn to me.

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Muddy Ford | 2 years ago
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So asides from dangerous driving, this w@nker used the horn illegally in an untaxed vehicle on a road the vehicle is not allowed because of a weight restriction. This should be pursued with the police. I'd hope that road.cc took up the pursuance on behalf of all cyclists.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Thought it was fairly obvious. There is a nice passing place that the cyclists ignored and the van driver was merely courteously drawing their attention to it.

Always cycle in a studious manner and with courtesy to other road users.

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skizz replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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are you being sarcastic oh hairy one ? 

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Hirsute replied to skizz | 2 years ago
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Oh no - signed in with the wrong account !

Busted !!

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IanGlasgow replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Thought it was fairly obvious. There is a nice passing place that the cyclists ignored and the van driver was merely courteously drawing their attention to it.

Always cycle in a studious manner and with courtesy to other road users.

Yes, obviously as soon as they saw the van those cyclists should have engaged reverse gear and cycled backwards to the gateway they'd just passed.
Silly inconsiderate cyclists!

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brooksby replied to IanGlasgow | 2 years ago
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IanGlasgow wrote:

hirsute wrote:

Thought it was fairly obvious. There is a nice passing place that the cyclists ignored and the van driver was merely courteously drawing their attention to it.

Always cycle in a studious manner and with courtesy to other road users.

Yes, obviously as soon as they saw the van those cyclists should have engaged reverse gear and cycled backwards to the gateway they'd just passed.
Silly inconsiderate cyclists!

I've always thought that a lot of motorists forget that the vast majority of bicycles (the ones with gears) don't have a reverse gear, and that "going backwards" is a real faff...

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Sriracha replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

IanGlasgow wrote:

hirsute wrote:

Thought it was fairly obvious. There is a nice passing place that the cyclists ignored and the van driver was merely courteously drawing their attention to it.

Always cycle in a studious manner and with courtesy to other road users.

Yes, obviously as soon as they saw the van those cyclists should have engaged reverse gear and cycled backwards to the gateway they'd just passed.
Silly inconsiderate cyclists!

I've always thought that a lot of motorists forget that the vast majority of bicycles (the ones with gears) don't have a reverse gear, and that "going backwards" is a real faff...

Some do!
http://www.sturmey-archerheritage.com/index.php?page=history-detail&id=1155

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eburtthebike replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Always cycle in a studious manner and with courtesy to other road users.

And I'm sure, given your name, you have a forelock to tug, unlike some of us.  Not that we would.

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Hirsute replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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Bit of a whoosh there eburt ?

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eburtthebike replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Bit of a whoosh there eburt ?

Bit of whoosh there hirsute?

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Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Total Berkshire Hunt.

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eburtthebike replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Total Berkshire Hunt.

The accepted abbreviation is Berk, which is why it is unparliamentary language.

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grOg replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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'Berkeley Hunt'

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Captain Badger replied to grOg | 2 years ago
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grOg wrote:

'Berkeley Hunt'

can be either. 

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wtjs | 2 years ago
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Perhaps the new Highway Code will force some changes in attitudes for the police as well as drivers

I can't see it. I think forces throughout the UK are fixed on 'business as usual'. They don't pay any attention to the Highway Code now so it's going to require a lot of complaining from people like me who aren't put off by the ridiculous police complaints system (the police decide the police are doing the right thing- after 6 months delay to try and put you off). I have now moved on to the PCC stage, with a massive fully illustrated file of all the offences Lancashire Constabulary has ignored. I doubt if the PCC will be any better, but they will have to work through the file. We'll see. LC has made it easier for me by contemptuously ignoring loads of red light offences- but they can't dispute them!

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Bucks Cycle Cammer replied to wtjs | 2 years ago
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Andy Cox is chairing a national working group next month to share/discuss best practice, so we may see something come of that. A set of guidelines to enable dashcam/cyclecam reporting has also recently been published but that largely deals with enabling the reporting, not what to do with it after that.

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wtjs replied to Bucks Cycle Cammer | 2 years ago
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set of guidelines to enable dashcam/cyclecam reporting has also recently been published but that largely deals with enabling the reporting, not what to do with it after that

Thanks. Lancashire has designed a system for shunting online incident reports onto a hidden sideline for 18 or so days, so that it's always too late to do anything about the incident. They then claim that they deal with every case 'within time constraints'. They have designed another system for sending offenders 'educational material' but without even a warning letter. Fraud and deception pervades the LC response to online incident reports because they hate the idea of irrefutable video evidence of offences. Surely there must be a special place in Hell for Lancashire Constabulary?

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eburtthebike replied to Bucks Cycle Cammer | 2 years ago
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Bucks Cycle Cammer wrote:

Andy Cox is chairing a national working group next month to share/discuss best practice,...

Why would the leader of a tiny pressure group be chairing something like that?  It is normal for the chair of any such meeting to be impartial and independent, and having someone with such a narrow but widely known agenda would be anathema to any independent people thinking of going, so the whole thing will be Fair Fuel supporters talking to other people like themselves.

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Sniffer replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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I think you are getting your Coxs mixed up.

Could be painful.

Andy and Howard are very different.

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eburtthebike replied to Sniffer | 2 years ago
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Sniffer wrote:

I think you are getting your Coxs mixed up. Could be painful. Andy and Howard are very different.

Ooops!  Thanks; more water with it before I post.

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Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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"I’ve reported it to Thames Valley Police via their online portal, although other members have told me that unless anyone is actually hit and/or injured they won’t take any action."

If it helps thats not my experience with TVP (albeit the Oxfordshire section) - they were pretty reasonable.

BL18CFY if I have read the video correctly.   Appears to be untaxed which might be just desserts and prompt the rozzers for an easy win. 

https://car-check.co.uk/check/BL18CFY

 

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Bucks Cycle Cammer replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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If they do anything, it will likely be "words of advice". Tax is dealt with by DVLA - not a police matter unless they are physically present - so rather than relying on TVP to contact them, it's best to report those directly.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Bucks Cycle Cammer | 2 years ago
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Bucks Cycle Cammer wrote:

Tax is dealt with by DVLA ......, it's best to report those directly.

Cool - didnt know.  Reported using the link below and linked to the YouTube video as evidence.

https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

 

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Awavey replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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What set of words did you use for the 'usual period time vehicle can be seen on the road' ?

It just doesnt feel like a form that's designed for I was cycling along when this vehicle passed me in a manner that identified the driver as complete codpiece, so I looked their registration up later to check the tax status and found I was doubly right on them.

Also isnt this all supposed to be automatic thesedays, arent DVLA supposed to issue fines the moment your tax expires and you havent SORNd it ? Why isnt that system working?

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Bucks Cycle Cammer replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Personally, I usually write "Seen at h:mm on ddmmyy as per video"

Being anonymous, there's no way of knowing whether that's the right approach.

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Bucks Cycle Cammer replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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And thanks to YouTube viewing stats, I know for a fact that DVLA at least look at it. Obviously, being an anon report, no idea if anything's then done 

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HoarseMann replied to Bucks Cycle Cammer | 2 years ago
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Bucks Cycle Cammer wrote:

And thanks to YouTube viewing stats, I know for a fact that DVLA at least look at it. Obviously, being an anon report, no idea if anything's then done 

I once used the report untaxed vehicle form, then chased it up. Got a letter back from the DVLA stating that unless I knew where the vehicle parks overnight and it is not on private land, they would do nothing.

If I had that info then they might have towed it. So I gave up.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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Yep, untaxed and either recently sold or owner moved house as the V5C was last issued in Dec 2020.

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aegisdesign replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 years ago
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I can't tell from the video what size transit van it is but the road itself has a 3 tonne limit and bigger transits can be over that. Possibly shouldn't have even been there.

 

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