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Ian Stannard’s Tour of Britain stage win on Strava

Team Sky rider averaged over 26mph on 111 mile route

Ian Stannard’s Stage 3 solo win at the Tour of Britain is now on Strava.  

Team Sky’s Stannard won by 1:46mins, on his local roads, from chasers Kristian House and Graham Briggs on the stage from Congleton to Tatton Park, Knutsford, both in Cheshire. Strava clocks the distance at 178.6km (111 miles).

The route featured a large loop taking riders into the Peak District, including the climb of the Cat & Fiddle above Macclesfield, before racing back through Knutsford to the finish in Tatton Park.

The route took in 1,577m of elevation gain and Stannard’s Strava time was 4:14:37hrs, although his official race time was 4:14:12hrs. Either way, his average speed was just over 42.2km/h (26mph). His average power is 301 watts and his maximum is given as 1,915 watts.

Stannard took loads of KOMs, but not the Cat & Fiddle climb (below).

Around 30 riders are uploading to Strava during the Tour of Britain. Uploads from yesterday’s stage include:

Kristian House 
Graham Briggs 
Ian Bibby 

www.strava.com

 

 

Mat has been in cycling media since 1996, on titles including BikeRadar, Total Bike, Total Mountain Bike, What Mountain Bike and Mountain Biking UK, and he has been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. We send him off around the world to get all the news from launches and shows too. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Now over 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions.

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fustuarium | 7 years ago
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Excellent. I was on a little rise after the Cat And Fiddle descent. I was surprised how slow the breakaway seemed to be going. Looked like they'd had a tough day. Now I'll be able to find out how fast  1

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bendertherobot | 7 years ago
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I agree on the potential argument. I reckon I could win a shed load of 30 second slight incline sprint competitions. 

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tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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None of this stuff is profound though. SIlly that we have to even discuss it.

 

Pros weren't trying their best time on every segment - who knew!

Strava and organised racing are different - who knew!

Strava KOMs are held by people of varying race level ability - who knew!

 

Maybe best ignore any 'Strava times are nonsense' comments else we descend into churning out blatantly obvious statements at each other smiley

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notfastenough | 7 years ago
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Holmes chapel was ace yesterday, I dont think the village has ever seen so many people at once!

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Chris James | 7 years ago
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Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

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tritecommentbot replied to Chris James | 7 years ago
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Chris James wrote:

Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

 

No worries, you can't undermine him without stealing his KOMs. Feel free to try.

So tell us, why is time trialling nonsense. Seeing how fast you can go is the purest, if not one of the oldest, most respected forms of racing in all disciplines. 

Or how about we get you and this 'nonsense' guy from Glasgow together for a race. I want to see you show him up for all of his nonsense.

 

We can all chip in, pay the transport costs for the two of you. I'm sold, who's in. laugh

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vonhelmet replied to tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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unconstituted wrote:

Chris James wrote:

Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

 

No worries, you can't undermine him without stealing his KOMs. Feel free to try.

So tell us, why is time trialling nonsense. Seeing how fast you can go is the purest, if not one of the oldest, most respected forms of racing in all disciplines. 

Or how about we get you and this 'nonsense' guy from Glasgow together for a race. I want to see you show him up for all of his nonsense.

 

We can all chip in, pay the transport costs for the two of you. I'm sold, who's in. laugh

It's not always comparable, though. If the pros weren't "trying" on those segments, perhaps because they knew they had another seven days racing to go and they don't care about strava KoMs, whereas this guy is purposefully blitzing it to hit the top of the leaderboard and can perhaps take things 20 miles at a time when he feels like it, then it's not the same.

That's not to say he's not a good cyclist, nor that strava is worthless compared to actual racing... The truth is they're different things.

Kristian House holds the KoM on The Wizard climb in Alderley Edge. He didn't get it in the breakaway on Tuesday, he got it on a training ride last year when he did 4 repeats of the climb, presumably with the traffic in the mix to boot. Definitely not the same thing.

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700c replied to vonhelmet | 7 years ago
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vonhelmet wrote:

unconstituted wrote:

Chris James wrote:

Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

 

No worries, you can't undermine him without stealing his KOMs. Feel free to try.

So tell us, why is time trialling nonsense. Seeing how fast you can go is the purest, if not one of the oldest, most respected forms of racing in all disciplines. 

Or how about we get you and this 'nonsense' guy from Glasgow together for a race. I want to see you show him up for all of his nonsense.

 

We can all chip in, pay the transport costs for the two of you. I'm sold, who's in. laugh

It's not always comparable, though. If the pros weren't "trying" on those segments, perhaps because they knew they had another seven days racing to go and they don't care about strava KoMs, whereas this guy is purposefully blitzing it to hit the top of the leaderboard and can perhaps take things 20 miles at a time when he feels like it, then it's not the same.

That's not to say he's not a good cyclist, nor that strava is worthless compared to actual racing... The truth is they're different things.

Kristian House holds the KoM on The Wizard climb in Alderley Edge. He didn't get it in the breakaway on Tuesday, he got it on a training ride last year when he did 4 repeats of the climb, presumably with the traffic in the mix to boot. Definitely not the same thing.

Don't agree with the 'everything else is nonsense' view, but equally, Strava isn't everything! 

I do think many of the KOM holders on Strava who only race virtually actually have great potential to start racing or at least entering TT's. Much of this potential is sadly untapped. Ditto many decent sportive riders. I guess that's where a good club can help with encouraging and mentoring strong riders to enter their first race. Making the jump to competitive racing, where you can reliably compare efforts and ability, can seem a little daunting. 

 

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giff77 replied to Chris James | 7 years ago
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Chris James wrote:

Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

Really? You say that without knowing anything about this fella. As far as we know he could be the local TT champion or Hill Climbing champ. Theres plenty of clubs in Glasgow churning out some seriously good cyclists. 

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Chris James replied to giff77 | 7 years ago
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giff77 wrote:

Chris James wrote:

Without wanting undermine the guy in the Glasgow area's 'achievements' - if people want to get competitive about how fast they can ride then they should buy a licence, pin a number on, and prove it. Everything else is nonsense.

Really? You say that without knowing anything about this fella. As far as we know he could be the local TT champion or Hill Climbing champ. Theres plenty of clubs in Glasgow churning out some seriously good cyclists. 

 

Yes, and if he is then he will have pinned a number on and shown it in a race, like I suggested.

 

Equally he could be driving around on a moped.

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stenmeister | 7 years ago
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There's a guy in the Glasgow area who holds all the local KOMS and on Stage 1 on sunday he actually held onto a lot of them or was only nudged off the top by a couple of seconds.

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tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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Looked that up and found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9iB5OC5x_Q

 

Could be more shows like this, but seems like the one you're talking about. Loving it. Gonna sub. Some sort of track sprinter local hero maybe? Guy's a machine laugh

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StraelGuy | 7 years ago
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People have been suggesting that for donkeys. There's even a Youtube channel where they send this guy who's like the cycling equivalent of the Stig to so a Strava KOM segment. Each episode they basically pick a KOM that's owned by a pro and use the guy to demolish it. Not sure who the rider is but he has an incredible physique and puts out frightening power figures.

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tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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Yeah actually, Strava should add that option. Good thinking, might suggest it on their forums.

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rowes | 7 years ago
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It would be nice to be able to filter the segments to remove the Pros (or see them only).  Not that any are keeping me from KOMs, just 100+ other riders

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crazy-legs | 7 years ago
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The Strava flyby feature is quite entertaining for yesterday. Shows me and a whole host of other random dots all converging on the Brickworks climb, all pausing there for a bit then all splitting up and belting out on the Cheshire lanes to Tatton Park via about 6 different routes and then all congregating again along the final 1km. All pauses for a bit then everyone drifts away in little random clumps, you can see where people have stopped at cafes on their run home.

It looks cool playing it at about 300x speed.

Good stage yesterday, the crowds out all along the route were insane, SO many people!

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Yorkshire wallet | 7 years ago
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Bloody pros ruining Strava!!  3

There's a hill section I really like on one of my routes and I'm determined to climb the table. Sadly I'll never get anywhere near the top since Scott Thwaites had killed it up there at some inhuman average. I didn't feel so bad when I saw him leading the Vuelta the other day.

Shocking how fast FAST is though.

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DaveE128 replied to Yorkshire wallet | 7 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

Bloody pros ruining Strava!!  3

Oh, I dunno, there's a small hill round my way, about 17-20%, which the ToB went up last year. My time is faster than Michal Kwiatowski and Alex Dowsett!

My heart rate was probably about 50bpm higher though! 

Good for a chuckle anyway!  1

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CygnusX1 | 7 years ago
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Good day out yesterday, great atmosphere amongst the fans, and Stannard totally bossed it.
Must give Wiggo a call out for the amount of time he spent signing autographs for the kids (big and small) at the start.

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DaveE128 | 7 years ago
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I see a lot more Strava KoMs on that ride, and they're the ones that count, right? 

That was a seriously impressive ride! He was asked afterwards about the Strava KoMs and whether anyone would be able to beat them. His thought was that the descents, on closed roads, following a police motorbike, would be hard to beat!

Somehow I'd managed not to pick up on his nickname of "Yogi Bear" until yesterday. That made me laugh - too accurate! When they were both with Sky, that must surely have made Richie Porte "Boo-Boo"?!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Boo-Boo_Bear.png

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/525e73e3e4b0fb1ebe6f337e/t/5697dbe...

Tell me there isn't a resemblance!  1

 

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tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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Power

Ave: 301

Max: 1915

 

Interesting one to me is the cadence at 85. Thought it'd be higher than that!

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