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I lost my Strava KOM to someone who 'cycled' from London to Newcastle in six hours; New York's viral number plate clearer helps more motorists; Epic adventures; "Dame Vivienne Westwood: designer, punk, cyclist" + more on the live blog

It's the final live blog of 2022... Dan Alexander is here, no longer fuelled by the long-since empty Quality Street tin, to take us into 2023...

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30 December 2022, 09:00
I lost my Strava KOM to someone who 'cycled' from London to Newcastle in six hours

Humour me on this one please, I don't have enough KOMs for losing one not to be a mildly traumatic experience...

Strava KOM email

So, once the initial shock of the dreaded Uh oh! email had faded I took a closer look, naturally, just to make sure... I mean it can't just be that someone stronger did it faster, can it? That's too logical, there must be something else at play...

Luckily for me, there was...

Strava activity flagged
Strava activity flagged

Ā Having rung Dave Brailsford with a tip-off about a British-based rider who'd win the Tour (and every other big race) for the next ten years the conclusion was drawn that myĀ KOM had not been stolen by the fastest person to ever ride a bicycle...

While we neither know (or suspect anyone cares what the mode of transport was here) we've been here before. Back in September we reported that Strava KOMs were being nabbed by motorcyclists clocking speeds as fast as 112mph, raising road safety concerns.

>Ā Why can't Strava stop motorbike riders nicking KOMs? Plus tech nerd-out with Silca's CEO on the road.cc Podcast

Strava confirmed: "TheĀ RideĀ activity type is for conventional human-powered bicycles (including recumbents) riding outdoors. Do not use this activity type if your activity includes data recorded while driving a car, motorcycle, pacing a vehicle, using an electric bike, or another electric-assisted vehicle, using a non-traditional bicycle with full fairings or aerodynamic modifications including velomobiles, or using a GPS simulator programmeĀ for virtual riding.Ā 

"Please note that motorcycle activities are not allowed on Strava and cannot use theĀ RideĀ orĀ E-BikeĀ activity types."

30 December 2022, 15:58
Some more of your Strava thoughts

Back in September we asked Strava about the issue of KOMs being taken by people in motor vehicles...

We were told: "Being part of the Strava community is a commitment to respect: we respect each other, ourselves and the rules. When we all share mutual respect, we all win. Read our community standards here

"That means that we rely on our global community to help us monitor the integrity of our segments and leaderboards. We ask our athletes to flag anything that doesnā€™t match our community standards ā€“ including mechanical cheating ā€“ which will be addressed.

"Strava values sportsmanship and fair play, and we want members of our community to earn spots on the leaderboards through clear and safe competition."

30 December 2022, 15:41
Wout wins again ā€” more enthralling festive cyclocross action

Four in a row...

Three Brits in the top ten, with Cameron Mason following Pidcock home in fourth before Thomas Mein took sixth, but the win once again goes to Van Aert... 

30 December 2022, 15:11
Police Scotland urge use of BikeRegister
Police Scotland (via Twitter)

Police in Scotland are just one of the forces using the Bike Register app to help return stolen bicycles to their owners and have urged riders to register their bikes with the website.

In short, it allows officers to run a VIN of any bike they find to establish the actual owner.Ā Sergeant Carly Bryce, from Police Scotlandā€™s Acquisitive Crime Team, told ITV: "Allowing us to help the public mark and register their bikes, but up until recently whenever we came across a potentially lost or stolen cycle, we would have to contact Bike Register directly and get them to check if the bike was on the database.

"Thanks to the development of the app for police mobile devices, we can instantaneously carry out a check ourselves and if the bike is registered and found to be in the possession of someone who is not the owner, we can respond swiftly and appropriately.

"We know that bikes are an expensive commodity and the last thing anyone wants to think about it their valued present, training equipment or mode of transport being lost or stolen, but should such an issue arise, itā€™s really important that the bike is registered on the database."

We'll leave it to you to decide if enough is done to stop bike thefts at source...

30 December 2022, 14:32
Muddy magic meme

Go on, have a meme, it is Friday afternoon after all... 

30 December 2022, 13:43
2 Bikes 1 Wheelchair is complete ā€” Francis and Justin reach LA 3,000 miles later... with more than Ā£137,000 now raised for Get Kids Going!

How's this for a finale to the series? Pretty perfect, I'd say...

The JustGiving page for the challenge is now at Ā£137,767, at the time of writing... You can find out all the info about Get Kids Going! and donate here...

30 December 2022, 12:29
Your comments

Grahamd noted the police might be interested in the top speed, while Fursty Ferret now wants to go give the KOM a try...

Confession time: my best was assisted by a conveniently timed slow-accelerating HGV as the perfect lead-out man... go flag me if you wish, I won't be offended, and can give it a flat-out 'natural' effort once the Christmas fitness has shifted... despite the faux-outrage in my earlier post trust me, I won't be losing any sleep over a Strava KOM...

General Zod: "It's a complete pain in the arse. Half the segments on my ride to work have the top few slots taken by people doing three figure speeds. Constantly flagging them is a time-consuming exercise. Strava's algorithm should easily be able to screen impossible segment times."

30 December 2022, 12:03
BINGO!!!

It's a full house... 

30 December 2022, 11:25
Wout van Aert: "The whole woke debate sometimes goes too far"
Wout van Aert, Dublin UCI Cyclocross World Cup 2022 (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

[šŸ“·: Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com]

Wout van Aert sat down with Belgian newspaper Het NieuwsbladĀ to answer some quick-fire questions on the year past... answering one on the most regrettable part of 2022?

"The whole woke debate.Ā I sometimes see it going the wrong way.Ā You have to be so careful with what opinion you express these days.Ā Not even having an opinion is often wrong.Ā You have to shout very loudly: I am woke.Ā Otherwise you are almost by definition discriminatory.Ā The best example is the Zwarte PietĀ discussion.Ā I never used to associate that with oppression of anyone.Ā It really bothers me that all this is being added nowadays."

And who was Wout most annoyed by in 2022?

"That can be none other than Vladimir Putin?Ā I already referred to it after my victory in the Omloop Het Nieuwsblad.Ā A war in Europe, not even that far from Belgium.Ā It is unbelievable that this is still possible in this day and age."

30 December 2022, 11:23
Top 7 Paid & Free Indoor Cycling Apps | Zwift alternatives compared

30 December 2022, 10:43
"Dame Vivienne Westwood: designer, punk, cyclist"

Just two of the many tributes to the pioneering British fashion designer who died yesterday aged 81... 

30 December 2022, 10:05
Epic adventures: Jo takes on the new North Downs Way Riders' Route by bike
30 December 2022, 09:38
New York's viral number plate clearer helps more motorists

Keep tuning in to our podcast for more from Gersh in the new year... 

While we're on the topic...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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Bigfoz replied to lonpfrb | 1 year ago
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Probably also because very few of them would be over the legislated speed limit. So they are legal, where riding a motorbike (or driving a car) at 112mph is illegal enough to be in automatic bans and jail time territory

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Xenophon2 | 1 year ago
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This Strave KOM-thing is pure, unadulterated BS.Ā  If they can't be bothered to filter out glaring impossibilities such as the one described above, go figure about all the rest.Ā  Just a marketing ploy.Ā  If you think you're better than 99.5% of other riders, go ride competition.Ā  Hell, they'll pay you to do it and throw in a bike.Ā  The Strava figures are on par with the other ploys that will take your cash and promise to make you stronger, younger, grow hair or increase the size of your reproductive organs.

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mark1a replied to Xenophon2 | 1 year ago
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Xenophon2 wrote:

This Strave KOM-thing is pure, unadulterated BS.Ā  If they can't be bothered to filter out glaring impossibilities such as the one described above, go figure about all the rest.Ā  Just a marketing ploy.Ā  If you think you're better than 99.5% of other riders, go ride competition.Ā  Hell, they'll pay you to do it and throw in a bike.Ā  The Strava figures are on par with the other ploys that will take your cash and promise to make you stronger, younger, grow hair or increase the size of your reproductive organs.

Easy tiger, there's no KOM lost here. The ride has been flagged, which means that it no longer appears on any segment leaderboards. The "rider" will be able to deflag the ride and reinstate it, but then if it gets flagged again, they cannot deflag unless they contact Strava support, where a human looks at the activity and makes a decision.Ā 

As for your other points, nah, Strava are notĀ extracting my cash in exchange for the things you mention, I just give them 40-odd quid a year in exchange for using their platform for recording ride data. I even give VeloViewer another 20 for further analysis, not because I want to turn pro, just becauseĀ it'sĀ fun and I'm interested in improving myself.Ā 

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General Zod replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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It's a complete PITA. Half the segments on my ride to work have the top few slots taken by people doing three figure speeds. Constantly flagging them is a time-consuming exercise. Strava's algorithm should easily be able to screen impossible segment times.

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mark1a replied to General Zod | 1 year ago
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If it's just segments on a commute, unless you're topĀ 10 every day, I'dĀ consider just letting it go. Less anxiety and you'll spend less time flagging pointless activities.Ā 

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Global Nomad replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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Agreed, I only look at my pb's on segments and how my times have changed across time on some leaderboards. Kom's have been meaningless for years.

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Organon replied to Global Nomad | 1 year ago
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>Ā Kom's have been meaningless for years.

Well if you had any KOMs then you would check when someone takes on off you to see if they were driving.

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Barraob1 replied to Organon | 1 year ago
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They are, I can't be arsed flagging every ride that has someone averaging 12kmh on trails and then hits 72kmh to take a kom. If strava want my money, fix that shit. Lost one to a guy who drove on the motorway, he was doing 120 beside a road with a segment. Strava need to get their finger out

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General Zod replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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I'm 1st or 2ndĀ most days and 1st for 2022 on several, with top ten all time positions. It's getting to the top three and KOM that the impossible times prevent.

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Organon replied to Xenophon2 | 1 year ago
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The most KOMs I've ever seen taken by a driver is 59, wonder how many this berk bagged up.

Meanwhile IĀ think Strava are more concerned about false positives pissing off regular users with an autoflag system, than catching cheats. Otherwise it would have been fixed years ago. As usual if you see something dodgy flag it. #KeepStravaTidy

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