Tadej Pogačar may have fired a few warning shots in the past when it comes to his capacity for long-range attacks – Strade Bianche, anyone? – but his audacious rainbow jersey-winning move still caught everyone on the hop, judging by his rivals’ post-worlds comments.
“I’m pretty sure if you ask him, this wasn’t his plan either but he was really strong and he proved us all wrong,” Mathieu van der Poel, who staged a spirited defence of his world title to finish third, said.
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“I thought that he was throwing away his chances for a world championship jersey because the situation was not ideal and his team was not able to take control, so it was more of a panic attack. But he was just so strong he could make it work until the end.”
Meanwhile, fifth-placed Remco Evenepoel, a touch below his very best despite winning the world time trial championships the weekend before and being expected to challenge the Slovenian on the hilly Zurich course, was even more forthright in his assessment of Pogačar’s 100km move, describing it as a “suicide attack”.
“Tadej was on a special day. In some races you would say this was easily controlled, but the moment he went I was saying to Mathieu that it was a suicide move and that everything was going to come back together.
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“In the end, he rode as fast as we did at the back,” the Belgian said, before evoking the kind of language historically used during the Lance Armstrong era to describe extraterrestrial performances – Pas Normal.
“It was a very long way to go,” Evenepoel added. “Every normal guy would say 100km to go is way too far, but I think Tadej this year is not normal.”
“I think it was a pretty tough moment in the race with 100km left to go, everyone was thinking it’s too much to do,” said Ben Healy, who along with Toms Skujiņš arguably deserved a medal for an attacking, determined ride, but was forced to settle for seventh.
“He went, and I don’t think anyone expected it. Then it was the whole Belgian team chasing them down, so I think with 100km left everyone thought it was a bit much, even for Tadej. He proved us wrong again.”
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However, ninth-placed Quinn Simmons wasn’t buying into the whole surprise element of Pogačar’s attack.
“If anyone is surprised that Pogačar won this race then I don’t think they follow cycling,” the moustachioed Simmons told reporters.
“I did 7,000 kilojoules today, so you tell me if the race was difficult. My teammate Matteo [Jorgenson] told me before the race that he tried to follow Pogačar once and said that ‘when you go too close to the sun you get burnt, and today I got burnt.’”
“Every single time you turn up to the race there's someone better than everyone else, that is part and parcel of the sport. It’s the same in tennis as well. You do your best,” added surprise silver medallist Ben O’Connor, who’s enjoyed a very successful end to 2024 after finishing second at the Vuelta.
Away from the race, other pros took to social media to express their astonishment at the Slovenian’s possibly era-defining ride.
While Matteo Trentin described Pog’s solo destruction as “absolutely mind blowing”, his compatriot Elia Viviani resorted to emojis:
And finally, Van der Poel reckons, even after all we’ve experienced this year at the hands of the 26-year-old, that this could be just the beginning.
“I have no idea how long the ‘Pogačar era’ will last, he’s stronger than ever, this is just the beginning,” the Dutchman said.
“He is a deserved world champion. If you see his season, he’s the one who deserves to wear it. It's going to be good to watch. After the race, I told him he was crazy. But everyone is happy with him as a world champion and for me, it’s nice for the best rider in the world to wear the jersey.”
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If there's one thing I thought we'd learnt in the last decade, it was that having a vote of something doesn't settle it "once and for all".
I think we need to call a plebiscite on that!
You're only saying that because you lost.
The praise for Pogacar is thoroughly deserved but only a few days ago a young woman lost her life. As a parent of somone of a simillar age the fact that Muriel Furrer's palmares ended with diffinative full-stop before she had the chance to begin puts everything else into perspective. Yes I know what her family said but I can find little joy in this particular show having gone on.
I would like Pogacar's rivals to be planning how to beat him, and straining every sinew to do it.
Instead we get MDVP saying 'isn't it nice that he won'.
Attitudes have changed. Yes, once upon a time rivalries were ugly, and so were the tactics used. You were isolated within your team bubble and didn't focus on anything else. Your ideology was to be inwards because that's all that mattered. You weren't allowed a personality. Nowadays with how different team operations are, and the presence of social media and everything else, even the strongest of rivals not only have a sense of respect, but comradeship. There is still a burning desire to win, but not at the expense of the mind.
A number of sport physchologists believe that the negativity of mental games could easily stunt a rider's performance, especially if thing's were not going exactly to plan. A more positive and relaxed environment collectively pushes the athletes further to the limits of performance, even in the event of something going wrong.
Anecdotally I noticed that a number of Team GB Olympic athletes across various disciplines seemed to be perfectly happy in post-event interviews with their bronze medal or lower placing. It may be that those particular athletes had outperformed or were simply realistic about their form, but I did wonder if it also pointed to a shift in psychological preparation. Not expressing a view on whether it's good or bad; just noticeable.
What was different before? I don't recall cyclists in general behaving that differently in the past from the way they behave now, or not having personalities.
Pogacar has every chance of ending his career as the greatest ever but I really don't think we can say he's "already there" when you look at Merckx's incredible palmares: 5 Tours, 5 Giros, a Vuelta, three rainbow jerseys, 64 GT stages, nine other jerseys from GTs (points and mountains, not counting the combination as that doesn't exist any more), 7 Milan-San Remo, 3 Roubaix, 2 Flanders, 5 L-B-L and 2 Lombardia. Four (!) times winner of three monuments in a year. Still a bit of catching up to do for Pog, though of course if anyone can, he can.
The thing is Merckx started hard winning a little later in his career. Pogi is only 26 and is equivalently ahead in terms of major victories. If he carries on his current trajectory and stays free of injuries, he will emulate more of Merckx's records in the next five years, if not most of them. Even if he starts to fade after that, you would imagine he would still be capable of adding to his palmares well into his thirties.
I don't think that's correct, before he turned 27 (in 1972) Merckx had already captured three Tours and three Giros, two WC road race titles, five Milan-San Remos, two Roubaix, a Flanders, two LBL and a Lombardia. He'd also won pretty much every major stage race available then (Paris-Nice, Catalunya, Dauphine, Paris-Lux, Romandie etc) before he turned 27 apart from the Tour de Suisse, which he waited until 1974 to capture, the slacker. He'd taken most of the classics by then too.
So the score for Merckx by the time he turned 27 was six GTs, two WCs and eleven monuments, compared to Pogacar's current score of four GTs, one WC and six monuments. Of course Pog doesn't turn 27 until September 21, 2025, so theoretically he could draw level with Eddy at the same age (apart from in worlds, because that's a week after he turns 27) but he would have to win two out of the three of next year's GTs and all five monuments, which is asking rather a lot even for a man of his undoubted genius.
I wonder if he'll have go at the hour as well one day?
You wouldn't bet against him but one would suspect probably not, the road riders who go for the hour are usually more the puncheur, heavier types (even Eddy was a hefty 74kg in his racing days). I can't think offhand of any recent holder of the record who was under 70 kg. There is no doubt that with his w/kg ratio and sustained power he could have a good crack at it but I think maybe he would have to put on extra muscle weight which would then handicap him in other races. Also, track riding is quite a skill and as far as I'm aware he has never raced on the boards – again, nearly every record holder I can think of has had a successful track background as well, Indurain's the only one who springs to mind who didn't. Still, the lad has a bit of history in terms of tearing up the record books, so…
He had, previously, talked about putting on some weight at some point to go for Paris Roubaix, so...
I hadn't heard that, maybe both things he might think about towards the end of his career then. I know he said recently he's not interested in the Tour de France record but I take that with a very hefty pinch of salt, I think he'd love to be the first man to get six, so he might want that out of the way first. However, the way he's going at the moment he'll have that in his pocket before he's 30!
Source: https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-24-september-2024-310485
Yes, I knew he had said he wanted to have a crack at Roubaix, but I hadn't heard that he said he would look to gain weight to do so.
Shouldn't read too much into a short quote (and I haven't listened to the full interview), but it does also make it sound like a full set of monuments might be a priority. And (it's all relative!) is arguably more controllable than completing or adding to his GTs.
Definitely one of his aims, although I can't see that they would really cut into his GT plans too much anyway, as he's showing this year he's more than capable of winning monuments and one or more GTs in the same year. Roubaix is the only one that could present a serious problem if he does decide he has to gain weight for it...though if he skipped the Giro and put on 5kgs for Roubaix at the beginning of April he'd have nearly 3 months to lose it again before the Tour.
Merckx was on the juice wasn't he, like most/all were then?
I'm not talking about Pogacar specifically here but in pro road racing, what looks out of the ordinarly or incredible is either a good day and luck or it's the juice. When a rider looks out of the ordinary for some time .. well, history sort of hints at something. Cynicism isn't cool but the general murkiness of the sport isn't either (though perhaps it's clearing generally).
Pogacer has not broken the world track hour record as Merckx did.
Perhaps that comment should include the word "yet" but yes, I know, and if you actually look at what I wrote on this thread I said I didn't think he would necessarily attempt it as it's nearly always taken by heavier, more muscular riders than he. It's hardly regarded as an important benchmark for greatness in road racing though, if Pogacar ends his career with more monuments and GTs than Merckx I don't think people will be saying "ah, but he never took the hour record."
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