eBay seller refuses to accept bike auction offer – says "would be unhappy if I sold to Scouser"

mdavidford wrote:

For the buyer, it (eventually) did - they got it for less than they were expecting, and the seller made a donation to charity on top of that.

Can't find that bit - what did it eventually go for?

Fourth last paragraph:

Quote:

[Danny Grimes said: "]We will honour the offer you made...”

So they're getting it for the £1,000 when they expected to be haggled up a bit.

mdavidford wrote:

Fourth last paragraph:

Quote:

[Danny Grimes said: "]We will honour the offer you made...”

So they're getting it for the £1,000 when they expected to be haggled up a bit.

Aaaah. I wonder if Mr Watt will use this tactic in future.....

I might🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I feel sorry for the shop. Trial by Social Media.

In fairness that's a pretty stellar response from the shop and were I the buyer would more than make up for any initial bad feeling.

Yeah but they've still put it all over social media, haven't they?

Oh contrairé, they accepted his offer, apologised and donated to a foodbank.

Billy1mate wrote:

Oh contrairé, they accepted his offer, apologised and donated to a foodbank.

Yep mdavis pointed that out. Missed it in my first read

Captain Badger wrote:

Billy1mate wrote:

Oh contrairé, they accepted his offer, apologised and donated to a foodbank.

Yep mdavis pointed that out. Missed it in my first read

While I'd love to be a jazz legend, I don't think I can lay claim to that. 

mdavidford wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

Billy1mate wrote:

Oh contrairé, they accepted his offer, apologised and donated to a foodbank.

Yep mdavis pointed that out. Missed it in my first read

While I'd love to be a jazz legend, I don't think I can lay claim to that. 

😆

In a perfect world inhabited by sensible nice people, you would pay what you thought was a sensible offer, not try to get one over on someone who is trying to run a business. eBay is inhabited by stupid, ignorant, cheeky fuckwits who want a new item for fuck all, free postage, and can't be arsed to even leave positive feedback. eBay should set up a feedback system whereby no feedback is shown until both parties leave it.

Car boot sales are horrendous, people bartering on something selling for 20p. It happened to me and I increased the price when offered less than the 20p and then said it's not for sale.

Captain Badger wrote:

In which case offer 1250, and be prepared to move on till you find someone who is selling at a fair price. But, these silly Pythonesque games of meet in the middle are a waste of everyone's time and good will.

Well we'll have to change the whole of human nature then. Throughout history it's been accepted that sellers try to seek the highest price and buyers the lowest and that they try to negotiate an acceptable compromise. It's generally - and not just in buying and selling goods - the way humans work, via negotiation, and if it's done with good will it can generally end up with an outcome that satisfies both parties.

Rendel Harris wrote:

.... and if it's done with good will it can generally end up with an outcome that satisfies both parties.

Quite. And offering ridiculously low gets up people's noses, and results in ill-feeling, as we have just seen. That is also human nature.....

As someone who works in the B2B world an opening offer of c. 80% of what turns out to be a sale at a fair value is absolutely not 'insulting' - if you don't like the idea of negotiating fair enough, but that is what the 'make an offer' option is for

Compact Corned Beef wrote:

As someone who works in the B2B world an opening offer of c. 80% of what turns out to be a sale at a fair value is absolutely not 'insulting' - if you don't like the idea of negotiating fair enough, but that is what the 'make an offer' option is for

Clearly the seller, judging from their response thought a 66% offer was insulting (you may have faired better with your 80%). And I frankly don't blame them, although as I originally said, their response was unwarranted.

You're on a hiding to nothing Captain Badger, it seems nobody gives a shit these days as long as they've got a cheap deal.

biker phil wrote:

You're on a hiding to nothing Captain Badger, it seems nobody gives a shit these days as long as they've got a cheap deal.

I dare say you're right. I doubt there'll be any sweet deals struck between myself and my esteemed colleagues this weekend at least....😂

Compact Corned Beef wrote:

As someone who works in the B2B world an opening offer of c. 80% of what turns out to be a sale at a fair value is absolutely not 'insulting' - if you don't like the idea of negotiating fair enough, but that is what the 'make an offer' option is for

When I was in the Middle East the advise given to me when buying goods was to knock 20% off the vendors asking price as your starting point. The end result would be an agreement on anything between a 5-15% discount (usually 10%) depending on how desperate the vendor was to offload the goods or you go gain them. Even in the markets you could ask for a sweetener when buying large amounts of fresh food.

This practice can be implemented here in the U.K. in markets or high street when buying in bulk or when dealing with tradesmen who surprisingly are willing to knock a small percentage off their bill. 

Over the years I've had independent shops give me a discount when I've purchased large items. Even recently a craft shop gave me a discount after spending a ludicrous amount of money over Christmas and while it was their decision the mindset is there to move from a carved in stone price point. 

Here in the U.K. we have lost the art of bartering due to major retailers having established price points in order to speed up turnover. 

All the vendor had to do was say no come back with a better offer. Now they've wound up with offering a massively inflated discount. The other way round it would simply said fixed price no haggling!

Captain Badger wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

.... and if it's done with good will it can generally end up with an outcome that satisfies both parties.

Quite. And offering ridiculously low gets up people's noses, and results in ill-feeling, as we have just seen. That is also human nature.....

It gets up people's noses if they're pissed and want to be rude, I think this story shows. Really not sure how out of other things to be annoyed about I'd have to be to get annoyed about someone making an offer on something I'm selling when I've expressly stipulated, as here, that offers will considered. I've sold bikes on eBay and had people offer me 50% of asking, you get an email from eBay and you can click reject offer, make a counteroffer, or you can just ignore it. If that's too annoying, you can just set your auction/sale not to accept offers at all, then you don't have to get angry about it. Seems fairly simple.

Rendel Harris wrote:

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It gets up people's noses if they're pissed and want to be rude, I think this story shows. Really not sure how out of other things to be annoyed about I'd have to be to get annoyed about someone making an offer on something I'm selling when I've expressly stipulated, as here, that offers will considered. I've sold bikes on eBay and had people offer me 50% of asking, you get an email from eBay and you can click reject offer, make a counteroffer, or you can just ignore it. If that's too annoying, you can just set your auction/sale not to accept offers at all, then you don't have to get angry about it. Seems fairly simple.

Not only then, but clearly that didn't help the situation, and backfired immensely on the seller - I think it fair to assume that they'll be reconsidering their policy accordingly....

All these things re eBay are also true - these functions are there to help avoid timewasters.

But, timewasters are still timewasters, and it is insulting to have disregard for other folks time.

Anyway Rendell, as ever it is a pleasure to debate with you, but I have some goods to put on eBay at an inflated price. Have a great weekend

Not really, it's bartering. One would ask for a better deal buying a car or offer less than the asking price if buying a property. 

You can accept offers and have ebay automatically reject offers below a set amount; having said that, the not selling to scousers line came across as a joke to me.. social media outrage, who cares.

Well said, there's far too many of them on eBay.

alansmurphy wrote:

I'm with them when someone puts in an offer that far below the asking price!

 

I always get these muppets email me with a crap offer after I:
a) Turn off the ‘Best Offer’ feature
b) literally put in the description no offers accepted.