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Florida isn't the safest....

The US has around 4x the number of road deaths/head of population that the UK does. And Florida's road safety record is one of the worst performing states on road safety, so stories like this shouldn't really come as a surprise....

https://www.villages-news.com/2022/12/20/91-year-old-villager-sentenced-...

 

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ktache | 1 year ago
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I'm thinking that pain medication may have had something to do with it.

 

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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colleague of mine, the nicest person you could imagine and a regular cyclist commuter around London and cycle tourer elsewhere moved to Florida with his US wife. Another friend and I went to visit him just over a year later.  He met us in an effing huge 4x4. When he lent over to take his dark glasses from the glove compartment (cubby as they say in US) there was a huge hand cannon inside. He'd gone completely native. Didn't cycle anymore either ;(  He said he had tried initially but there were too many old people driving and the roads were too dangerous 

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mattw | 1 year ago
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Incidentally, this is wealthy retirement country as we know, and they seem to have Golf Cart tracks by the Boulevards.

 

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mattw | 1 year ago
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Surprised that the Judge speculated about whether she was sober in his comments. Garrulous. Seems there had been a lot of legal delaying tactics, and she had been sly enough to drive away then get her car repaired quickly in the next county.

This points up a few things I'd say - one is that the US legal system is a lottery (but we know that). I'd far rather that it was consistent rather than that there was a correct answer at pretty much random once out of every 1000 cases, or whatever it is.

How will damages be done in the USA - will the victims have to sue?

They have a similar but more serious problem to us with elderly driving licences not being controlled, out of creating a society where not-car is very difficult. Here one of our main missing links is a better small-grain public transport system, but at least there are (not good enough) local services coniditions on new developments already in the system.

This old woman lived in an ocean of bungalows perhaps 2-2.5 miles drive from the nearest shop - even in a totally developed area. That's going to guarantee the underlying driving license problem will be impossible to fix for political reasons. This is the area:

 

 

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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I'm pretty sure that there have been a LOT of 'cyclists injured in Florida' stories - I had always been of the opinion, reading the news, that Florida would not be a safe place at all to ride a bike...

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essexian | 1 year ago
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I urge you not to go and read the comments unless your blood pressure is well controlled.

Blimey, it seems that cyclists are the problem and not some women who should not have been driving given her medical condition at the time.

Madness. 

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Bungle_52 | 1 year ago
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The main surprise, had it been in this country at least, is the punishment for leaving the scene.

From the article : "While delivering the sentence, Judge Briggs emphasized that Hamilton’s biggest legal problem wasn’t the crash itself, but the fact she left the scene.

“The impact of what you did is felt by (the victims), but what happened afterward is what impacts you,” he said. “If you had stayed, things would have been much different for you. No sentence I could impose would restore Mr. Hunter and Ms. Laube to their prior condition. This is punitive.”

In addition to two concurrent 60-month sentences for leaving the scene of a crash involving a serious injury to a vulnerable road user, Hamilton faces an additional five years of probation. She also must pay restitution, the amount of which will be determined at a future hearing, and her driving privilege is revoked. Civil litigation is also under way."

And yet our laws allow only minimal sanctions for the same action.

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wtjs replied to Bungle_52 | 1 year ago
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And yet our laws allow only minimal sanctions for the same action

In fact our laws encourage leaving the scene, and getting a few drinks down as soon as you get home

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CXR94Di2 | 1 year ago
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Let's have an educated guess. It's the retirement state of the USA. Old duffers blindly, slow reacting tootling at 40mph everywhere

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OldRidgeback replied to CXR94Di2 | 1 year ago
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Drink driving statistics are bad in Florida. But Texas has the worst record of all US states for DUI according to the NHTSA data. As a rule of thumb, the southern states tend to have less safe roads than the northern states, though Montana and Wisconsin are also pretty bad. New York State and Connecticut are two of the best in the US for road safety.

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kil0ran replied to CXR94Di2 | 1 year ago
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God's Waiting Room plus tourist-central is not a safe mix. It's like the New Forest but with gators rather than ponies.

On one visit I saw a driver crash a rental car within 500 yards of the airport terminal in Tampa. First intersection, decided to Links Fahren and hit oncoming vehicle.

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