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Nibali considering legal action over Brammeier’s ‘selfish moron’ tweet

Irish rider incensed by Italian’s comments relating to extreme weather protocol

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Vincenzo Nibali is considering taking legal action after Matt Brammeier called him ‘a selfish moron’ on Twitter. The Irishman’s comment came after the Astana rider expressed his displeasure at the cancellation of a stage of Tirreno-Adriatico.

On Sunday, Nibali tweeted a video of that day’s finishing climb which was devoid of snow. Astana have since said that they could pull the rider from the Giro d’Italia in May if race organiser RCS Sport are likely to make similar decisions, cancelling summit finishes due to bad weather.

In response, Dimension Data rider, Brammeier, tweeted: “Better you stay home & skip the whole season you narrow minded, selfish moron.”

Etixx – Quick-Step’s Tony Martin added: “Matt, you're a legend! I couldn't say it better!”

Brammeier told Cycling Tips that he had been spending time setting up the British and Irish riders’ union in recent months and as part of this had been looking at the extreme weather protocol. He feels that all pro cyclists should get behind the work that has been put in to establish safety measures.

“To see a comment like that is the typical mindset of cyclists of the past. It is just so narrow minded, only thinking about the next race. Just thinking about their goals and not considering the bigger picture, which is trying to make cycling more professional.

“What we have seen in the last few months and years is pretty embarrassing, really, in terms of avoidable crashes. We can’t and won’t eliminate every risk in cycling — but we should take common sense measures where possible.

“That is why I felt so strongly about it. And especially with a name as big as Nibali. If he says something like that, it can jeopardise everything that all those guys have done. We need to pull together and show solidarity.”

Nibali’s lawyer, Fausto Malucchi, said he was trying to contact Brammeier and Martin regarding the tweets, but didn’t think the matter would end up in court. Nibali himself simply seems keen to ensure that there is a Plan B for when stages are disrupted by adverse weather, rather than their having to be cancelled.

Last season, Nibali’s countryman and fellow Astana rider, Fabio Aru, threatened to sue Greg Henderson after the New Zealander appeared to publicly accuse him of feigning illness to cover up issues with his biological passport.

Henderson subsequently tweeted an apology, saying: “When you are sick. You are sick. Jumping to conclusions helps nobody. My mistake @FabioAru1. I should shut my mouth. Sincere apologies.”

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SevenHills | 8 years ago
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I think that Brammier, in a rather clumsy way, is trying to point out that Mr Nibbles comments are disingenuous. 

It takes a lot of time and effort to plan the routes for each stage of these races. Sometimes it requires the roads to be brought up to standard and repair work to be done, all of which is to ensure fair racing and rider/spectator safety. All of which takes time, effort and money. Therefore cancelling a stage is a last resort and will only be done if there is a risk to competitor/spectator safety.

When there is bad weather forecast or even actually present somewhere on the route before the finish it may require a stage to be cancelled. We don't know if there was particularly bad weather before the summit finish which prevented them getting there. So showing a picture of a summit finish with no snow and criticising the fact that the stage was cancelled is pretty poor in my opinion when he does not have to take into account all the factors.

And to all those master planners who say just change the route - yeah dead easy, lets organise road closures at the drop of a hat, no problem. No one remember the chaos caused by the Orica Green eadge bus crashing in to the finish line gantry at the TdF 1st stage on Corsica. They tried thinkingh on their feet there with finish lines moving whilst the stage was on following the pre planned route and nobody knew what was going on.

I think a bit more respect is due for the race organisers than shown by Nibali.

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ct | 8 years ago
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What annoys me [I don't mean 'annoys' really but I have a crap night's kip] is that his team is blatantly using Nibali as a stick to beat the Giro with.

We all know that Nibali is the big draw and Astana overtly threatening to remove him unless any decision is agreed with by them stinks.

 

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aladdin pain | 8 years ago
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Maybe it's not so surprising that it wasn't snowing atop the cancelled mountain. After Brammeier's Utah crash last summer he's probably been working on an Awesome Weather Protocol.

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willythepimp | 8 years ago
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A nice big studded tyre so all the strongmen of the peloton get a chance in the hills. I'd imagine the extra rolling resistance would cancel out weedy climbers chances. Like pushing through treacle, uphill, in the snow.

 

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bigshape | 8 years ago
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rather than cancel the stage, can't they just switch to fatbikes?

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pants replied to bigshape | 8 years ago
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bigshape wrote:

rather than cancel the stage, can't they just switch to fatbikes?

Or they could compete in some novelty sport when the weather is bad, like mini golf or a bowl off.

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Rixter replied to pants | 8 years ago
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pants wrote:

Or they could compete in some novelty sport when the weather is bad, like mini golf or a bowl off.

Sort of like Stage #1 of the Vuelta last year

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balmybaldwin | 8 years ago
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I don't see the problem with them racing up hill in nasty conditions in fact it adds to the excitement of the stage with little risk.  the problem is the downhills that are often in mountain stages between climbs and the risks taken, or on sprint stages at sprint points and the finishes.

Snow on the road is an obvious limit, but up to that there should be a way to manage it.

The obvious thing for a mountain stage is to bypass climbs and change the route, finishing up hill (provided riders aren't expected to cruise back down like they often are). the problem is the chaos this will cause in race organisation.

 

Yes something should be done about the number of crashes, but I don't think we are facing a motor racing style problem here. yes there have been occasional tradgedies, but statistically you are less likely to die racing than just riding to an office job. I just don't think we should over react.  Cycling is dangerous, but not that dangerous.

Racing skinny tyred roadbikes on snow is daft, but he's essentially complaining that the stage was cancelled when the road was clear. I think he's right.  We don't know what info the organisers had, perhaps forecast snow didn't arrive, but in that case I would argue the decision to cancel was taken too early.  If we eliminate risk due to weather in cycling then those riders that are better technically loose a chance to shine.  Riders can take the risk they want most of the time.

In terms of unnecessary injuries the first thing that needs fixing is the support vehicles taking out riders.

 

 

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HarrogateSpa | 8 years ago
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I'm pretty sure you can't sue someone for calling you a moron. It's a matter of opinion, not a libel. Unless Italy has a very strange legal system.

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Ad Hynkel replied to HarrogateSpa | 8 years ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

...Unless Italy has a very strange legal system.

Oh boy, that's comedy gold you have there.

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davel replied to HarrogateSpa | 8 years ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can't sue someone for calling you a moron. It's a matter of opinion, not a libel. Unless Italy has a very strange legal system.

Italy has a very strange legal system, at least if the completely unrelated Meredith Kercher debacle is anything to go by.

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CXR94Di2 | 8 years ago
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Nibali seems to get hung up on tiny details like team car door handles  4

All hot air news

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mike the bike | 8 years ago
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I'd be dubious about dragging someone into court for calling me a moron in case they proved it was true.

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upriver replied to mike the bike | 8 years ago
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mike the bike wrote:

 

I'd be dubious about dragging someone into court for calling me a moron in case they proved it was true.

 

Brilliant! although surely the words of a wise man...

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Kadinkski | 8 years ago
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Brammeier sounds like the tempremental moron here. 

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Veloism | 8 years ago
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Pathetic

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Rapha Nadal | 8 years ago
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Lance, is that you?!

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