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Audi TT driver arrested on suspicion of causing cyclist's death by dangerous driving in Wales

Collision took place on Wednesday night

Gwent Police are appealing for witnesses to a fatal collision involving a red Audi TT and a cyclist on the Queensway A4810 road between Magor and Llanwern. The 30-year-old driver has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.

The Monmouthshire Beacon reports that the incident took place at approximately 9.25pm on Wednesday July 5.

The cyclist, 28-year-old Suliman Haroun, was sadly pronounced dead at the scene and his family are currently being supported by specialist officers.

Anyone who witnessed the collision can contact police on 101 quoting 546 5/17/17.

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Chris Hayes | 6 years ago
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There can't be that many red TT's registered in the area - or even nationwide that can be placed there - so let's hope that Suliman his familiy get the justice they deserve.    As cyclists we're incredibly vulnerable on those roads and incidents like this bring it home.  RIP and condolences. 

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mike the bike | 6 years ago
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It would be interesting to see the results of a survey, perhaps taken from a motorway bridge, of speeding cars.  If they could be identified by make I wonder what percentage of each brand would be speeding?

Here's a guess: A higher proportion of Audis would be found speeding than, let's say, Suzukis.

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Thelma Viaduct | 6 years ago
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Audi drivers are equally as bad as BMW, most drive like utter selfish pricks. Ever noticed how Audis just stay permanently in the 3rd lane of the motorway, regardless of what's in the other lanes. (most not all). Always seem to have their front foglights on too when it's not foggy, be11-end motorists. The Audi arsehole was probably looking at themself in the mirror.

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Yorkshire wallet replied to Thelma Viaduct | 6 years ago
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Thelma Viaduct wrote:

Audi drivers are equally as bad as BMW, most drive like utter selfish pricks. Ever noticed how Audis just stay permanently in the 3rd lane of the motorway, regardless of what's in the other lanes. (most not all). Always seem to have their front foglights on too when it's not foggy, be11-end motorists. The Audi arsehole was probably looking at themself in the mirror.

Yeah and blacks and Asians are always up to no good. Bloody Audis. Imagine a black in an Audi.

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Deeferdonk replied to Thelma Viaduct | 6 years ago
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Thelma Viaduct wrote:

Audi drivers are equally as bad as BMW, most drive like utter selfish pricks. Ever noticed how Audis just stay permanently in the 3rd lane of the motorway, regardless of what's in the other lanes. (most not all). Always seem to have their front foglights on too when it's not foggy, be11-end motorists. The Audi arsehole was probably looking at themself in the mirror.

Have you ever noticed how cyclists make sweeping generalisations?

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leqin replied to Deeferdonk | 6 years ago
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Deeferdonk wrote:

Have you ever noticed how cyclists make sweeping generalisations?

No never. I am amazed you could make such a sweeping generalisation. Typical road.cc comment.yes

Seriously - some people have obviously never heard of and cannot imagine that there is such a thing as confirmation bias.

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oldmixte | 6 years ago
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Can't comment on Audi but have you noticed the indicators on expensive BMWs never seem to work.

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don simon fbpe replied to oldmixte | 6 years ago
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OldMixte wrote:

Can't comment on Audi but have you noticed the indicators on expensive BMWs never seem to work.

I know, the stalk design is really stupid, isn't it? The Audi design is much better.

RIP brother.

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WillRod replied to oldmixte | 6 years ago
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OldMixte wrote:

Can't comment on Audi but have you noticed the indicators on expensive BMWs never seem to work.

They work on my BMW and they worked on my last one too.

Us cyclists don't like being stereotyped by drivers, yet we love stereotyping car drivers.

Anyway, the fact it is a red Audi TT may be useful when finding witnesses in the local area, but on a national cycling site, it just seems like a lazy journalist copied and pasted a local report before rephrased a few lines.

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Yorkshire wallet | 6 years ago
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I drive a TT but I'm pretty sure, if while cycling, I hit a pedestrian and killed them, the headlines wouldn't be something like 'cyclist on Boardman HT Pro kills pedestrian'

Imagine if drivers started accusing cyclists of risky behaviour based on bike choice? "oh a Pinarello, you must go fast, probably not paying attention looking at your stem like Froome"

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alansmurphy replied to Yorkshire wallet | 6 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

I drive a TT but I'm pretty sure, if while cycling, I hit a pedestrian and killed them, the headlines wouldn't be something like 'cyclist on Boardman HT Pro kills pedestrian'

Imagine if drivers started accusing cyclists of risky behaviour based on bike choice? "oh a Pinarello, you must go fast, probably not paying attention looking at your stem like Froome"

 

You just wanted to tell us you had a nice Boardman didn't you  1

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Yorkshire wallet replied to alansmurphy | 6 years ago
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alansmurphy wrote:

Yorkshire wallet wrote:

I drive a TT but I'm pretty sure, if while cycling, I hit a pedestrian and killed them, the headlines wouldn't be something like 'cyclist on Boardman HT Pro kills pedestrian'

Imagine if drivers started accusing cyclists of risky behaviour based on bike choice? "oh a Pinarello, you must go fast, probably not paying attention looking at your stem like Froome"

 

You just wanted to tell us you had a nice Boardman didn't you  1

I'd get shot by bicycle police if you saw the state of it. Gaffer tape for chainstay protection, stripped disc mount in forks and a creaking bottom bracket. 

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alansmurphy | 6 years ago
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"Witnesses sought to fatal crash involving red Audi TT" is appealing for witnesses 

 

"Driver arrested on suspicion of causing cyclist's death by dangerous driving" is a news article

 

"Audi TT driver arrested on suspicion of causing cyclist's death by dangerous driving in Wales" not sure what this is...?

 

 

 

 

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ThatBritishBloke | 6 years ago
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No. I get all that.

"Red Audi TT", is of course, of relevance to The Monmouthshire Beacon. And I hope its article will elicit more witnesses.

I just don't want road.cc going down the "cyclist dies; shooting red light, not wearing hi-viz... should have been wearing a helmet... doesn't even pay road tax... killing pedestrians on the pavement ", strategy we see in the rest of the press.

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alansmurphy | 6 years ago
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It is possible it is part of the appeal for witnesses, however why not then include the word 'red' in the headline or more about witness appeal...

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ThatBritishBloke | 6 years ago
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I'm dreadfully saddened by this incident and believe that drivers should suffer the consequences of their dangerous and criminal actions. However, I am sllghtly puzzled by the implications of the car involved being an Audi TT. 

It smacks of what we cyclists are usually happy to cite as confirmation bias.

At this point  should disclose that I drive an Audi - not a TT - but also drive another brand.

However, I suspect that a header of "fatal collision involving a  bland off-white Subaru", isn't as clicky.

Deepest sympathy to family and friends. I hope the driver gets what they deserve. But I doubt it.

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hawkinspeter replied to ThatBritishBloke | 6 years ago
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ThatBritishBloke wrote:

I'm dreadfully saddened by this incident and believe that drivers should suffer the consequences of their dangerous and criminal actions. However, I am sllghtly puzzled by the implications of the car involved being an Audi TT. 

It smacks of what we cyclists are usually happy to cite as confirmation bias.

At this point  should disclose that I drive an Audi - not a TT - but also drive another brand.

However, I suspect that a header of "fatal collision involving a  bland off-white Subaru", isn't as clicky.

Deepest sympathy to family and friends. I hope the driver gets what they deserve. But I doubt it.

Surely the make and type of car is purely factual, so I don't see what the "implications" are that you're concerned with.

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arrieredupeleton replied to hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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Condolences to the victim and his family and I hope that justice is served asap. 

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Surely the make and type of car is purely factual, so I don't see what the "implications" are that you're concerned with.

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Oh, I think you do. Reference to the type of car in the headline seems unnecssarily click-bate-y to me. By all means have it in the article but as we all know, Audi drivers are cast in a negative light (whether rightly or wrongly) and seem to have taken the mantle from BMW drivers over the last few year. It's easy and lazy to make the link between the type of car and the type of driving but until we know the facts, please don't write a headline that reinforces such lazy stereotypes. 

 

*I am not an Audi driver.  

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hawkinspeter replied to arrieredupeleton | 6 years ago
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arrieredupeleton wrote:

 

Condolences to the victim and his family and I hope that justice is served asap. 

hawkinspeter wrote:

Surely the make and type of car is purely factual, so I don't see what the "implications" are that you're concerned with.

Oh, I think you do. Reference to the type of car in the headline seems unnecssarily click-bate-y to me. By all means have it in the article but as we all know, Audi drivers are cast in a negative light (whether rightly or wrongly) and seem to have taken the mantle from BMW drivers over the last few year. It's easy and lazy to make the link between the type of car and the type of driving but until we know the facts, please don't write a headline that reinforces such lazy stereotypes. 

 

I am not an Audi driver.  

To be honest, as a non-driver, I'm a bit car-blind. Most of the time, I don't really identify what make a car is and although I'm aware of the reputation of BMWs, I wasn't aware that Audis have a bad rap.

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Cupotea replied to ThatBritishBloke | 6 years ago
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ThatBritishBloke wrote:

I'm dreadfully saddened by this incident and believe that drivers should suffer the consequences of their dangerous and criminal actions. However, I am sllghtly puzzled by the implications of the car involved being an Audi TT. 

Thoughts are with Suliman's family and friends. RIP

I thought the same, though maybe as they are seeking witnesses it is justified.

As someone seriously thinking about packing up road riding completely due to repeated close calls and needless aggression, this weighs heavily. 

Although it doesn't mention it, the picture seems to indicate it was on a segregated cycle path as well (not starting a cycle path debate). Poor chap was probably heading home without any concern at all.

 

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StraelGuy replied to ThatBritishBloke | 6 years ago
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ThatBritishBloke wrote:

However, I am sllghtly puzzled by the implications of the car involved being an Audi TT. 

It smacks of what we cyclists are usually happy to cite as confirmation bias.

So the driver's a hairdresser, doesn't excuse their presumably abysmal driving.

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Rich_cb | 6 years ago
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Terrible news.

I commute from Cardiff to Newport every day, close passes are a daily occurrence.

Another cyclist was left hooked by a lorry in Cardiff on the same day, they closed the road for hours so it's likely she was seriously injured as well.

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