The family of a cyclist killed by a driver who walked free from court have said that the community order handed down to him is “not justice.”
John Crozier, 76, pleaded guilty to causing the death by careless driving of 42-year-old Robert Eaves in Trafford on 25 May last year, reports the Manchester Evening News.
On Wednesday, appearing at Manchester Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday e was ordered to carry out 100 hours of unpaid work and was banned from driving for a year. He will also have to pay a £95 victim surcharge and £85 costs.
In a statement read out to the court before sentencing, one of Mr Eaves’ daughters said: “My dad will never see me finish high school. He won’t even see my little sister finish primary school.”
Mr Eaves mother, Carol, described the sentence as a “joke.” Speaking after the hearing, she said: “He’s only got 100 hours of community service for killing my son.
“It’s not justice. We thought it would be something more. I think it’s an absolute joke. It’s an insult to the family and to justice.”
Crozier had worked as a lorry driver, but had to give up his HGV licence after losing an eye due to cancer.
His son-in-law, who was travelling in the vehicle, said that Crozier had been driving at a “slow and safe speed” but added that the sunshine was “dazzling.”
He said that he shouted a warning after spotting the cyclist, but Crozier struck the cyclist.
Emma Bracewell, defending, claimed that the driver would only have had four seconds to notice the cyclist and said he had suffered from “a momentary inattention.”
She also told the court that Crozier had decided he would not drive again following the fatal crash.
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This is what gets me... my niece failed her test the other day for clipping the kerb whilst reverse parking (and the next retest date she can get is December!). Its right that we have rigorous standards when approving new drivers, yet once you have a licence you seem to be able to do virtually anything and not lose it permanently, or need a proper reassessment.
4 seconds is an absolute eternity when driving. Its not a momentary lapse.
How about the defense barrister tries accompanying me at the wheel, and I'll close my eyes for 4 seconds and see how comfortable she is.
I get twitchy when, in the movies, the driver delivering their monologue to the passenger fixes them with a stare for several seconds. I know it's all done with smoke and mirrors (and trailers) but even so, it still jangles that nerve. Four seconds inattention? I'd be a wreck!
That's strange because the quote that the MEN reported was:
'Miss Bracewell told the court that Crozier does “not want to drive again” and that he is “anxious about being behind the wheel”.'
Why would he be anxious about something he has decided to never do again.
Yet again what looks like a miscarriage of justice. I can only imagine what his family is going through.
Our legal system reflects the norms and mores of our society. I feel that we are slowly moving towards what I call an American / Australian set of values.
If you choose to ride a bicycle on the roads that you share with motor vehicles you must understand that drivers do have lapses of concentration, and external factors such as setting sun, heavy rain, fog can interfere with their judgement. Other factors within the vehicle and on the road can cause distractions.The risk is yours, and your safety is your responsibility.
Except that me-on-a-bike has absolutely no control over what bloke-driving-a-car does.
So the safety is not my responsibility - they're the one driving a big, heavy, motorised vehicle, so my safety is their responsibility*
(*unless I do something stupid).
I rode a couple of weeks back in that neck of the woods, stopped off for an ice cream at Dunham Massey. It's lovely part of the world to ride, especially in summer.
My sympathies and condolences for Mr Eaves' family. The judgement isn't even a bad joke.
And still the media are baying for Harry Dunn's killer, Anne Sacoolas, to be returned to Britain to "face justice". Oh how disappointed everyone is going to be. You can kill a two wheeled road user in the UK with utter impunity. Our "justice" system is a total and utter joke.
I think that the victim surcharge element of these sentences should be removed completely when the offence involves a death. Obviously no amount of money is any kind of replacement for the deceased but a "victim surcharge" of £95 gives the impression that the victim's life was worth approximately the same as a parking ticket as far as the justice system is concerned.
A 'momentary lapse' isn't good enough when you're in charge of a 'killing machine'.....
4 seconds
thats 53metres at 30mph
or 106m at 60mph
Thats a long way to move without noticing something in front of you.
Four seconds could seem like such a short moment, magistrates might well have thought they (i.e. a reasonable driver) would easily do the same. I wonder, if the prosecution had asked instead is it reasonable to take your attention off the road for 53 metres, would they have concurred?
How it started: "laws serve as a norm of conduct for citizens and act as a guide of acceptable behaviour"
How it's going: Basically, zero punishment for taking a life and destroying a family.
It makes no sense. This is so wrong. Why is it that justice is rarely moral.
"She said that Crozier was driving in a “slow and cautious manner” and had taken precautions but had failed to account for the presence of a cyclist."
Oxymoronic if not actually totally hypocritical; how can you be driving in a slow and cautious manner and kill someone?
This is yet another in a never-ending, and apparently accelerating, series of court cases where the cyclist's life is worth nothing. Yet another case where the driver, although completely, clearly at fault, pays very little, or as in Rendel's case elsewhere on this site, pays no penalty at all and is acquitted by the court, despite overwhelming evidence. It is clear that the government simply don't care, and the media just blame the cyclists.
Perhaps if the comprehensive review of road crimes had actually happened, we might have been able to get justice; instead we get a review of the Highway Code that will easily be as effective as a hat on a snowball in hell.
Well, which is it? Because it can’t be both. (“I’ve taken precautions.” “Right, what about cyclists?” “What? On the road?”)
Stop talking Miss Bracewell, it’s all coming out wrong.
She's just taking instructions from the Prime Minister now: his momentary inattention was not distraction.
But not distracted from what he should have been doing, no way! Damn that sunlight! If only there was a way to anticipate when sunlight might be coming from that direction first thing in the morning!
So… he was driving with precautions but not to do with cyclists. He should have stopped, but he didn’t and that was unavoidable. He was momentarily inattentive for at least 4 seconds but not distracted.
Imagine the sentence if he had no credible justification for killing a cyclist!
4 seconds isn't momentary.
at 10 mph you travel 17m in 4 seconds
at 15mph it is 27m
stopping distance at 20 mph is 12m
but yes, "unavoidable"
That's such a facking long time to make a decision, even just to slam teh anchors on would have been enough
I just counted 'one elephant, two elephants, etc' and four seconds would be a veeeery long time when you are driving...
It's the stuff of nightmares - you see the cyclist as through the windscreen ahead, cut to the driver paying no heed, back to the cyclist, closer now, back to the motorist still oblivious, the seconds tick by as the tension mounts - four seconds, seeing what the driver isn't seeing, knowing what is happening but powerless to intervene until bang ... you wake up in a sweat.
How can the driver's attention both be not on the road and yet not distracted from the road, simultaneously?
And how can you not account for the presence of a cyclist. That states he wasn't looking the facking road, cos if he was, he wouldn't have had to account for them.
Miss Bracewell said the collision was “unavoidable” and that the defendant only had a four second window to see Mr Eaves on his bike.
So much for driving within the distance you can see to be safe and can stop within.
How did the passenger manage to see the cyclist if it was “unavoidable” ?
I'd hazard a guess, that a large percentage of people "don't drive within the distance you can be safe and can stop within".
You see it all the time, people just can't pay attention to what's going on around them; they drive the same way no matter what the circumstances.
“a momentary inattention.” A universal get out of gaol free card for drivers.
Quite, and the "momentary" inattention only just happened to coincide with the [much longer than a] moment that the rider would have been evident had the driver been capable and competent.
FFS the facking passenger saw him sooner.
I don't know why that's even considered to be a valid excuse.
During the driving test are you allowed a certain number of inattentive moments or are you immediately failed for unsafe driving? Why should a simple competency test (driving test) have stricter standards than a court determining why someone has been killed?
I think there's a minimum number that you need to hit (number of innatentive moments, not cyclists - but maybe that too).
...which is neatly offset by the fact that he pleaded guilty over a year ago but has been legally able to continue to drive (up until sentencing)?
I have very serious doubts about all these people who claim that they've decided never to drive again...
And yet again a person not fit to drive continues to drive because they have to "volunterily hand in the license" rather the having valid medical personal getting the DVLA to forcibly remove it.
Unsurprisingly the removed eye was on the left hand side it seems from the pictures, the side that slammed into the cyclist.
Loss of an eye by itself is not a valid reason to remove or refuse a driving licence. It's certainly not to blame for him hitting the cyclist. Failure to pay the attention required for operating heavy machinery in a shared public place is to blame.
The loss of the eye meant he had to stop being an HGV driver. I would argue that loss of depth perception / cone of vision when driving 1-2 tonnes of steel at speeds of 30mph onwards should be a loss of license or an extended test before being allowed out.
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