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A commuting bike that does so much so well, but it is compromised by a practical but less than exciting drivetrain
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The Canyon Commuter 5.0 looks like a true 21st century commuting bike. The spec is comprehensive and the core ride experience is perfectly decent. It's just a shame that a couple of things, not least the drivetrain based around a Shimano Nexus hub gear, slightly dampen the joy of riding it.

  • Pros: Fantastic spec, impressive weight, decent comfort and control
  • Cons: Heavy wheels, underwhelming drivetrain, tyres could do with more puncture protection

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Ride

I was going to start this review with a riff about the disappointment one feels when you see somebody attractive, only for them to open their mouth and ruin the magic. Imagine James Bond with the voice of Alan Carr, if you will. In truth, the Canyon Commuter 5.0 is nowhere near those levels of incongruity – more of a James Bond with the voice of David Beckham. Or, essentially, David Beckham.

The reason for this disappointment is partly, I admit, down to high hopes. I really love the look of this bike, both in the flesh and on the spec sheet. It is a practical urban bike that seems to really mean business. Hop aboard the saddle, though, and something just takes the edge off the unadulterated, unbridled pedalling perfection I was anticipating.

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There's nothing inherently wrong with the core of the Commuter 5.0 at all. Control at the front is lively enough to keep you interested, but never tiresome if you want to switch off and enjoy the cruise. For what seems like a fairly stiff thing, comfort is very, very decent. Of course, British road surfaces tend to make their presence known, but over decent roads it's faultless.

Where my ardour really cools, though, is with power delivery. There's nothing bendy or slack about the Commuter 5.0 – the rigid aluminium frame seems perfectly suited to effective pedalling, both in and out the saddle. But start climbing or trying to get above cruising speed and it seems the Canyon just doesn't want to play ball.

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With conditions in your favour, it's not too bad. Encounter something that requires or inspires a bit more effort and pedalling is just not as well rewarded as I'd hoped.

Drivetrain

So what's the problem? I think part of it has to be attributed to the Shimano Nexus 8-speed hub gear. I know all the arguments for hub gears. You can change gear while stationary. They require less maintenance. And in the case of this Nexus hub with its carbon Gates belt, there's no chain to derail and no oil to dirty your slacks.

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Those are all valid points and as an idle dandy I'm sympathetic to them all. But hub gears are also heavy, and in the case of the Nexus they're not particularly dynamic bits of kit.

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Now, before people start arguing the toss about how great hub gears are, I have done a bit of research into the subject. A 2014 study by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers looked into the efficiency of hub gears and found that a 7-speed Shimano Alfine hub gear (the Nexus's better quality bigger brother) ranged between 90.4% to 96.6% efficiency depending on ratio, compared with 97.7% to 99.4% efficiency for a 7-speed derailleur system. Having tested my fair share of Alfine and Nexus hubs in the past, I think we can safely assume the Nexus's efficiency results will be no higher than an Alfine's.

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Another of the supposed benefits of hub gears is that they change ratio while under load better than derailleurs. The Nexus might be better than some derailleur systems, but it's definitely not super-smooth and, in crucial moments when you're suffering, it'll momentarily whirl, click and complain with the best of them.

Finally on this Nexus rant, because it comes with a Revoshift 'twist shift'-style shifter, swapping gears simply doesn't feel as satisfying as using thumbs and/or fingers to whizz through ratios. I don't care if I'm classed as a snob for saying this – twist shift-style controls always make me feel like I'm riding a Raleigh Grifter. Okay, that's something that'll come down to personal taste.

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Frame

This disappointment with the drivetrain is all the more irritating because there's little fault to find in the frame. It's a very smart and subtle design with quite exciting (for a commuting bike) compact geometry, internal cable routing and – my personal preference – round aluminium tubes used throughout. The carbon fork follows the same trend and is also very classy.

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Best of all, the Commuter 5.0 is light. It might not be an official Euro-style trekking bike but – with a hub dynamo, lights front and back, hydraulic disc brakes, places to park your panniers, full-length aluminium Tubus Wingee mudguards, and a Gates carbon belt-driven hub gear – it features many of the ingredients you'd want on a trekker. In fact, the only things it misses out on are a frame lock and a kickstand.

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The fact that this bike weighs just a smidge more than 12kg – which includes 1.6kg for that Nexus hub – should put the lie to anyone who thinks it's perfectly fine for a trekking or trekking-style practical urban bike to come in north of 15kg.

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One small concern, though, is sizing. I tested an 'L' model, which Canyon says is suitable for riders 183cm-190cm tall (6ft-6ft3). I'm just a fraction over 6ft, but it felt a little too short in reach for me and I needed plenty of seatpost exposed, so be aware.

Wheels

A former editor of mine once said, if a bike feels a bit dead and you're not sure why, it's probably the wheels. In the case of the Commuter 5.0, he'd be right. While the 27.5in Alexrims are fairly standard bits of OEM kit, the front wheel features a Shimano hub dynamo, while the rear features that Nexus hub gear. So both wheels are no lightweights and also play a role in inhibiting any liveliness otherwise found in the Commuter 5.0.

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The choice of tyre – 35mm Schwalbe G-One Allround – does improve things performance-wise, with a really excellent blend of decent grip but low rolling resistance. However, on my first ride I had an encounter with its Achilles Heel: puncture protection. Although the G-One Allround does boast Schwalbe's RaceGuard protection – designed for fast, lightweight performance – that might not be enough for urban, suburban or even rural streets. A bit of roadwash flint embedded itself into the rear tyre during testing and popped the inner tube.

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I'd upgrade to tubeless tyres with a good helping of sealant, because you really don't want to be taking the rear wheel off of this without some planning. Because of the Nexus hub and the carbon Gates belt, you can forget about a quick flick of the quick release and off comes the rear wheel. With the Commuter 5.0 you'll need a 2mm Allen key, a 6mm Allen key, a 15mm spanner and ideally some needle-nosed pliers to unhook the gear cable retaining bolt. And that's before you even fix the tyre.

Canyon Commuter 5.0 - drivetrain.jpg

Components

Punctures notwithstanding, the Gates belt is an excellent long-term addition to the Commuter 5.0, which should guarantee a far more resilient drivetrain than anything chain-based. I'm equally impressed with the Shimano M200 hydraulic disc brakes. These might only be at the entry-level end of Shimano's hydraulic disc range but they work fantastically, offering both respectable stopping power and excellent modulation, so you can get your braking forces just right.

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The Commuter 5.0 is positively awash with other fine speccing details. The Iridium Fitness saddle is quite firm – in a good way – and a serious step up from the soft squidgy offerings a lot of manufacturers feel they need to fit to commuting bikes.

Canyon Commuter 5.0 - saddle.jpg

The super-wide flat stem is a fun and slightly leftfield choice. As is the fab – and typically quirky – Knog Oi bike bell, which wraps around the bar rather than sitting on it.

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The front and rear Supernova E3 dynamo lights – built into the excellent, rigid full-length aluminium Wingee mudguards – are very effective despite looking relatively humble. And the side bars built into the Wingee 'guards, designed to carry panniers, are a masterstroke in integrated practical cycling.

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Value and conclusion

Of bikes I've tested recently, the most similar in terms of practicality and price is the £1,360.35 Rose Black Creek Urban, but that was super-heavy and even less fun to pedal than the Canyon. The B'Twin Hoprider 900 is heavier still, but at £549 it's a good budget option with a surprisingly lively ride. With that in mind, and considering the overall quality of the Commuter 5.0, I'd say value is fairly decent.

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While it may seem like I've given the Commuter 5.0 a bit of a kicking, it's in large part because its appearance and spec look to offer so much. But Canyon has other options. For example, for £300 more you could have the Commuter 6.0 with Shimano's far superior Alfine 11-speed geared hub. Or you could save yourself £300 and go with the single-chainring 11-speed Shimano SLX derailleur-geared Commuter 4.0. Personally, I think I'd take the cheaper 1x bike.

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The Commuter 5.0 is a very decent bike with a lot going for it. In the saddle, though, it just comes across as being a little less than the sum of its parts.

Verdict

A commuting bike that does so much so well, but it is compromised by a practical but less than exciting drivetrain

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road.cc test report

Make and model: Canyon Commuter 5.0

Size tested: Large

About the bike

List the components used to build up the bike.

Canyon lists:

Frame: Canyon Commuter Performance Aluminium

Fork: Canyon CF Disc Carbon

Shift lever: Shimano Nexus C6000 Revoshift 8-speed

Cassette: Gates CDX 24T

Crank: Gates CDN S150

Chainring size: 55T

Bottom bracket: Thun BSA Zumba Jis

Chain: Gates Carbon CDN Belt

Brakes: Shimano MT201 hydraulic discs

Wheels: Alexrims MD19 on Shimano Hub Dynamo (f) and Shimano Nexus 8-speed hub gear (rear)

Tyres: Schwalbe G-One Allround RaceGuard 35mm

Handlebar: Canyon aluminium

Stem: Canyon aluminium

Grips: Canyon Bracelets

Seatpost: Iridium aluminium

Saddle: Iridium Fitness

Mudguards: Tubus Wingee full-length aluminium

Front and rear dynamo lights: Supernova E3

Pedals: Canyon VP-536 flat

Tell us what the bike is for and who it's aimed at. What do the manufacturers say about it? How does that compare to your own feelings about the bike?

The Commuter 5.0 is aimed at people who want an efficient and fairly fast commuting bike without forgoing practicalities.

Canyon says: "With its Shimano 8-speed internal-gear hub and Gates belt drive, the Commuter 5.0 will redefine how you ride through your city. From lights to fenders, every aspect of the bike works towards making your commuting experience simple and enjoyable, while hydraulic Shimano disc brakes and Schwalbe tyres guarantee total control no matter the conditions."

Where does this model sit in the range? Tell us briefly about the cheaper options and the more expensive options

The Commuter 5.0 sits roughly in the middle of the range. Immediately either side of it lie the Commuter 6.0 with Shimano's superior Alfine 11-speed geared hub for £300 more and, for £300 less, the 11-speed Shimano SLX derailleur-geared Commuter 4.0. There are further options, too.

Frame and fork

Overall rating for frame and fork
 
9/10

Tell us about the build quality and finish of the frame and fork?

I was very impressed by the overall build quality of the frame and fork. The internal cable routing is done very well and everything looks clean, tidy and well made.

Tell us about the materials used in the frame and fork?

Aluminium for the frame, carbon for the fork.

Tell us about the geometry of the frame and fork?

Very compact geometry for a commuting bike frame.

How was the bike in terms of height and reach? How did it compare to other bikes of the same stated size?

It was a little bit smaller than I expected both in terms of reach and height. I tested an 'L' model, which Canyon says is suitable for riders 183-190cm tall (6ft-6ft 3in). I'm just a fraction over 6ft, but it felt a little too short in reach and I needed plenty of seatpost exposed.

Riding the bike

Was the bike comfortable to ride? Tell us how you felt about the ride quality.

Yes. Considering it looks like quite an aggressive thing, I was surprised by how effectively it insulated road bumps.

Did the bike feel stiff in the right places? Did any part of the bike feel too stiff or too flexible?

It felt stiff enough.

How did the bike transfer power? Did it feel efficient?

This was the major stumbling block. Despite no obvious signs of flex in the frame, power transfer was less than sparkling.

Was there any toe-clip overlap with the front wheel? If so was it a problem?

No overlap at all.

How would you describe the steering? Was it lively neutral or unresponsive? It was quite lively.

Tell us some more about the handling. How did the bike feel overall? Did it do particular things well or badly?

For a commuting bike, the steering felt impressively reactive. It was never tiresome but felt direct.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's comfort? would you recommend any changes?

Saddle was a bit firm but I far prefer that to squishy saddles.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's stiffness? would you recommend any changes?

Nothing I'd change for stiffness.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's efficiency? would you recommend any changes?

The Nexus hub gear and front dynamo hub I think contributed to the bike's relative lack of efficiency.

Rate the bike for efficiency of power transfer:
 
4/10

At times it felt like hard work.

Rate the bike for acceleration:
 
5/10

Didn't exactly sparkle with increased input.

Rate the bike for sprinting:
 
4/10

Not a bike you'd choose to sprint on.

Rate the bike for high speed stability:
 
9/10

Perfectly good – I never had a problem with handling or control.

Rate the bike for cruising speed stability:
 
8/10

Very good.

Rate the bike for low speed stability:
 
9/10

Very nicely balanced.

Rate the bike for flat cornering:
 
7/10

Not a speed demon, but solid enough.

Rate the bike for cornering on descents:
 
6/10

OK; I was a little more hesitant than I expected while cornering on descents.

Rate the bike for climbing:
 
4/10

I could just about get a cadence going but it was rarely fun.

The drivetrain

Rate the drivetrain for performance:
 
4/10

I'm not a huge fan of Nexus hubs; I don't think they're the best examples of geared hubs.

Rate the drivetrain for durability:
 
10/10

Should last and last, though!

Rate the drivetrain for weight:
 
3/10

At 1.6kg for the hub alone, it's not light.

Rate the drivetrain for value:
 
4/10

I'd spend more and go for an Alfine hub if you want a hub gear.

Tell us some more about the drivetrain. Anything you particularly did or didn't like? Any components which didn't work well together?

As a whole, the drivetrain just seemed to take the dynamism out of the bike.

Wheels and tyres

Rate the wheels for performance:
 
4/10

A little disappointing. Considering they are 27.5in rims, you'd expect some sense of liveliness.

Rate the wheels for durability:
 
7/10

Should last well.

Rate the wheels for weight:
 
2/10

With a hub gear and a dynamo hub, these hoops are not light!

Rate the wheels for comfort:
 
8/10

Didn't affect the excellent comfort.

Rate the wheels for value:
 
5/10

As expected.

Tell us some more about the wheels.Did they work well in the conditions you encountered? Would you change the wheels? If so what for?

In conjunction with the drivetrain – because they're all part of the same system – the wheels contributed to the slightly dead performance.

Rate the tyres for performance:
 
9/10

Great mixture of grip and rolling resistance.

Rate the tyres for durability:
 
5/10

Puncture within five miles. No glass or nails involved. Of course, that could have just been bad luck.

Rate the tyres for weight:
 
8/10

Quick and light.

Rate the tyres for comfort:
 
8/10

Pretty impressive on the comfort front, too.

Rate the tyres for value:
 
6/10

Tell us some more about the tyres. Did they work well in the conditions you encountered? Would you change the tyres? If so what for?

I really like Schwalbe G-Ones, but I'd prefer something a bit hardier for commuting.

Controls

Rate the controls for performance:
 
7/10

Brakes were excellent. Revoshift shifter a bit basic for my liking.

Rate the controls for durability:
 
7/10

Should last as you'd expect – all quality kit.

Rate the controls for weight:
 
7/10

Fine.

Rate the controls for comfort:
 
7/10

Saddle was a bit firm but not enough to complain.

Rate the controls for value:
 
7/10

Tell us some more about the controls. Any particularly good or bad components? How would the controls work for larger or smaller riders?

Shimano M200 hydraulic disc brakes are only entry-level but do the job really well.

Anything else you want to say about the componentry? Comment on any other components (good or bad)

As a package, the Commuter 5.0 is really quite complete.

Your summary

Did you enjoy riding the bike? Sometimes...

Would you consider buying the bike? With a change of drivetrain? Absolutely.

Would you recommend the bike to a friend? Yes

How does the price compare to that of similar bikes in the market, including ones recently tested on road.cc?

The most similar bike in terms of practicality and price that we've tested is the £1,360.35 Rose Black Creek Urban, but that was super-heavy and even less fun to pedal than the Canyon. The B'Twin Hoprider 900 is heavier still, but at £549 it's a good budget option with a surprisingly lively ride. Considering the overall quality of the Commuter 5.0, I'd say value is fairly decent.

Rate the bike overall for performance:
 
5/10
Rate the bike overall for value:
 
7/10

Use this box to explain your overall score

The Commuter 5.0 is quite a tricky bike to score because it does a lot of things very well. The only real problem is with power transfer, but that is a crucial aspect of a bike's performance. I don't want to score it less than 7 overall, because there's so much that's good about it, but with a more enthusiastic drivetrain, as on one of Canyon's other Commuter models, it could be amazing.

Overall rating: 7/10

About the tester

Age: 39  Height: 6'0  Weight: 16 stone

I usually ride: Islabikes Beinn 29  My best bike is: 25-year-old Dawes Galaxy

I've been riding for: Over 20 years  I ride: Most days  I would class myself as: Experienced

I regularly do the following types of riding: commuting, touring, sportives, general fitness riding, mountain biking, leisure

18 comments

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SimonS [44 posts] 1 month ago
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Interested to see this review.  I've had the Commuter 7 for a couple of years now. Slightly different spec - Alfine 8, fancier dynohub, suspension seatpost.

The mudguards are excellent, unlike any others i've used they've been completely rattle free and only needed very minor adjustment.  However, the 'integrated pannier rack' is useless - even small paniers mounted on there are enough to pull the mudguards into the tyre.  I've ended up retro fitting a Surly front rack to the rear so i can run panniers.

You're underselling the lights - the Supernova front is a really bright, properly shaped German road legal beam that's good enough to use on unlit roads but wont dazzle other riders or drivers..  they're £150 by themselves. 

Belt drive is a massive boon on a commute bike for riding in normal clothes - no oily chain and when the bike gets covered in winter filth just hose it down with no need to worrry about rusting chain.  

The hub probably is definitely less efficient than a new clean conventional drivetrain but it's not slow and a bit more training effort on your commute helps at the weekends.  I'd take that over dirty chains and bike-rack-bent mechs any day. 

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dobbo996 [78 posts] 1 month ago
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Interesting review.

All my riding is commuting to work so I know exactly what I want from my ideal commuter bike. After going through several bikes - Cannondale and BMC - I settled on a Cube Editor which I then modified. The Editor comes with Alfine 11 and Gates belt drive system as standard. I changed the seat, grips and pedals, shortened the handlebars and upgraded the brakes to M7000s with a 203mm front disk (I ride motorcycles and like a LOT of front brake). Full mudguards round things off.

The Alfine 11 and Gates system combined is smooth and quiet and clean. For smooth, noiseless gear changes you must back off for a moment as you shift. Crashing through the gears under power does not suit an Alfine. And you must keep on top of maintenance - I change the hub oil every 1500 miles, so about twice a year. Follow these basics and have a little mechanical sympathy and the Alfine will run as sweet as a nut. Some people can't seem to get on with them - reporting noisy changes, oil leaks and problems with adjusting the gear changes - but this hasn't been my experience at all. Perhaps I'm just more mechanically-minded. The reviewer is right though - a trigger change, which I have, is much better than a twistgrip.

I like my modified Editor a lot. It gets the job done.   

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Joe Totale [196 posts] 1 month ago
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This bike won't last a minute outside Peckham Lidl before being nicked! 

A big requirement for a commuter bike for me and many Londoners is the ability for it to be locked up outdoors and not be too attractive to thieves, unfortunately this bike screams "steal me". 

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any additional security measures on this bike aside from the rider carrying the most heavy duty lock possible. 

 

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chocim [16 posts] 1 month ago
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dobbo996 wrote:

And you must keep on top of maintenance - I change the hub oil every 1500 miles, so about twice a year.

 

For many people 1,500 miles would mean changing oil once every quarter or even every two months. That's quite a short interval for a drivetrain among whose selling points is low maintenance…

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Secret_squirrel [98 posts] 1 month ago
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I am the only one whose never heard of Hub gears changing better under load?

In my (fairly limited) experience, they've always needed a pause at the top of the pedal stroke.

 

I have mixed opinions on twist versus trigger.  Triggers are more satisfying feel-wise but Twists are fractionally easier to dump the entire gear range in one go.

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ktache [2466 posts] 1 month ago
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Unfortunately any bike can look attractiveto the bicycle theives, a stupidly big lock is always in order.  And perhaps insurance, just in case.

I am very much enjoying my Rohloff build, the only gear change you really have to drop the power on is between 8 and 7.  But of course the hub does cost almost as much as this whole bike.  I went for a chain drive, the Gates was a tech step to far, what with hub gear, disk brakes and tubeless tyres, but the very strong single speed chain and the ease of cleaning compared to a multi cog set up is a delight, especially given the recent filthy conditions this wet autumn and winter have given us.

I kind of like the twist shift, I always wanted a Grifter.

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RobinC [9 posts] 1 month ago
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On the earlier iterations of the Nexus 8 there were 2 versions, the standard model with pinions on plain bearings and the slightly more efficient 'red band' version, also slightly lighter. The basic version would seem a slightly odd choice for this machine. Since it is running disc brakes Alfine 8 would seem the better choice.

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djbwilts [30 posts] 1 month ago
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35c tires on 650b seems on the narrow side now. Easy to put on some 47c's but is there room? And if there is room you'd assume the mudguards wouldn't clear the tires...

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Secret_squirrel [98 posts] 1 month ago
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ktache wrote:

I kind of like the twist shift, I always wanted a Grifter.

Its not like a grifter unless it randomly engages "slip gear" when pedaling out of the saddle.  

Singlehanded responsible for declining fertility rates in males of a certain age....

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vonhelmet [1648 posts] 1 month ago
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chocim wrote:
dobbo996 wrote:

And you must keep on top of maintenance - I change the hub oil every 1500 miles, so about twice a year.

 

For many people 1,500 miles would mean changing oil once every quarter or even every two months. That's quite a short interval for a drivetrain among whose selling points is low maintenance…

Really? I commute 25 miles a day and even if I commuted all year round I wouldn't hit 6k in the year on my commuting bike. The rest of my riding would go on other bikes. How many people do you think are doing how many miles that a bike with a rather specific use case would be doing nearly 10k miles a year more often than not?

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Kendalred [434 posts] 1 month ago
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ktache wrote:

Unfortunately any bike can look attractiveto the bicycle theives, a stupidly big lock is always in order.  And perhaps insurance, just in case.

I am very much enjoying my Rohloff build, the only gear change you really have to drop the power on is between 8 and 7.  But of course the hub does cost almost as much as this whole bike.  I went for a chain drive, the Gates was a tech step to far, what with hub gear, disk brakes and tubeless tyres, but the very strong single speed chain and the ease of cleaning compared to a multi cog set up is a delight, especially given the recent filthy conditions this wet autumn and winter have given us.

I kind of like the twist shift, I always wanted a Grifter.

 

So...a Grifter shifter?

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Miller [339 posts] 1 month ago
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djbwilts wrote:

35c tires on 650b seems on the narrow side now. Easy to put on some 47c's but is there room? And if there is room you'd assume the mudguards wouldn't clear the tires...

It's not narrow on-road which is where this bike will mostly be and on towpaths and other likely unmade surfaces a 35c G-One is absolutely fine.

 

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Cycle House [10 posts] 1 month ago
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Joe Totale wrote:

This bike won't last a minute outside Peckham Lidl before being nicked! 

A big requirement for a commuter bike for me and many Londoners is the ability for it to be locked up outdoors and not be too attractive to thieves, unfortunately this bike screams "steal me". 

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any additional security measures on this bike aside from the rider carrying the most heavy duty lock possible. 

 

 

Well outside Harrods some guy left a Dogma F8 a week ago...

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EddyBerckx [768 posts] 1 month ago
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Joe Totale wrote:

This bike won't last a minute outside Peckham Lidl before being nicked! 

A big requirement for a commuter bike for me and many Londoners is the ability for it to be locked up outdoors and not be too attractive to thieves, unfortunately this bike screams "steal me". 

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any additional security measures on this bike aside from the rider carrying the most heavy duty lock possible. 

 

 

Genuinely...I wouldn't leave a bike locked up on a london street (on a regular basis) that's worth more than £200. Just the knocks it will get alone would do my head in...and yes, anything not crap will get stolen.

 

Anything of any value needs a secure work bike shed...unfortunately most wont have access to one  2

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djbwilts [30 posts] 1 month ago
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Miller wrote:
djbwilts wrote:

35c tires on 650b seems on the narrow side now. Easy to put on some 47c's but is there room? And if there is room you'd assume the mudguards wouldn't clear the tires...

It's not narrow on-road which is where this bike will mostly be and on towpaths and other likely unmade surfaces a 35c G-One is absolutely fine.

 

 

I agree that the 35c would be fine in most applications though I don't think a 47(-ish)c would be appreciably slower in on-road situations and could be run at lower pressures increasing comfort and versatility.

There is also a better choice of wider tires - I'd say that a 650b x 35c is relatively rare or would at least limit choice significantly.

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vonhelmet [1648 posts] 1 month ago
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Cycle House wrote:
Joe Totale wrote:

This bike won't last a minute outside Peckham Lidl before being nicked! 

A big requirement for a commuter bike for me and many Londoners is the ability for it to be locked up outdoors and not be too attractive to thieves, unfortunately this bike screams "steal me". 

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any additional security measures on this bike aside from the rider carrying the most heavy duty lock possible. 

 

 

Well outside Harrods some guy left a Dogma F8 a week ago...

On my commute the other day I saw sound guy jump off a pinarello of some variety and leave it leant up against a newsagent while he went inside. I had half a mind to jump off my bike and nick it myself. Mind you, given the part of town I was in, and the fact that he was riding on shimano clipless pedals in trainers, I'm guessing it had already been stolen at least once. Easy come, easy go, I guess.

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Philh68 [173 posts] 1 month ago
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The revoshift does the Nexus 8 no favours. I replaced it with a 503 Alfine rapidfire on my Lekker commuter, and it now works the way it should have all along, with crisp shifts even under load. It also allows you to put full size grips on, with symmetrical brake lever position - the revoshift requires the brake lever be on the left of the shifter, where the rapidfire puts it on the right. The revo’s shortened grip meant a few unintentional shifts as you only have to move your hand slightly to bump it down a gear, while requiring positioning the brake lever too far inboard for my liking. Now, it’s as it should be and the bike feels right.

At the Canyon’s price point is it too much to ask for a better shifter and some Ergon grips?

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bobbk [23 posts] 1 month ago
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vonhelmet wrote:
Cycle House wrote:
Joe Totale wrote:

This bike won't last a minute outside Peckham Lidl before being nicked! 

A big requirement for a commuter bike for me and many Londoners is the ability for it to be locked up outdoors and not be too attractive to thieves, unfortunately this bike screams "steal me". 

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any additional security measures on this bike aside from the rider carrying the most heavy duty lock possible. 

 

 

Well outside Harrods some guy left a Dogma F8 a week ago...

On my commute the other day I saw sound guy jump off a pinarello of some variety and leave it leant up against a newsagent while he went inside. I had half a mind to jump off my bike and nick it myself. Mind you, given the part of town I was in, and the fact that he was riding on shimano clipless pedals in trainers, I'm guessing it had already been stolen at least once. Easy come, easy go, I guess.

 

While we're on the Peckham accedotes, I've seen someone riding bow legged on a carbon tt bike that really didn't fit him. The bike had been fitted with flat pedals . That was a dead giveaway for being stolen.