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TdF Stage 16

Just thought i'd start this early so someone dont go stealing my title this time  19  19

So whats your thoughts of the stage on Tuesday? I think a few guys may drop out tomorrow, mainly the sprinters who are doing nowt and not able to help their teams through the Alps

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Oh i'm nae having this, anyone got Trialongo's mobile number, i need to give him a boot up the road tomorrow and get every point and the win

127 Educating Ricco dave_atkinson 85.82
142 This years no hopers thefatcyclist 85.09
143 Up and Doon Hills Gkam84 85.04

This is interesting aswell, only .78 between us all in the average table  19

I think its time us Scots do a Schleck style 1-2 on Dave and leave him at the bottom of the mountain  19  19

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thefatcyclist | 12 years ago
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Ha ha lets get him on The lecht, that'll sort him out. none of your bath Norwich namby pamby stuff. And we can detour via a distillery or three.  1

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dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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Norwich? How very DARE you.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Now Now, dont go alienating the "doon soothers" cause i might end up with work down there and run into them while out on the bike  7

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Gregoire500 | 12 years ago
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Wooo.... It might be too late to take the yellow jersey but at least I get a stage win!

119 points-my team has finally bore some fruit after a somewhat patchy performance to date, pretty chuffed  3

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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aaaggh I nearly went for the Norwegian duo, but thought it too risky, and played safe with a cheap sprinter, Geraint Thomas and Schleck -
I guessed Sky might try and get either GT or EBH in every break but plumped for the wrong one . . . and I wonder if Flecha is feeling up for a break away again yet.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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I think Flecha is just in charge of getting Swift through the rest of the tour now, seems to be sticking to him like glue

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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Well I've gambled and dropped Frank Schleck.
Hoping for a Flemish victory tomorrow.  32

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rbx | 12 years ago
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Dropped Frank for Gilbert y'day.

Dropped Gilbert for Luis Leon today.

Will drop Luis Leon for Frank tomorrow.

There's my transfer strategy - going around in circles.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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You all want a tip for the win tomorrow? Get yourself Trialongo, i've just removed him  20  19

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Alan Tullett | 12 years ago
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@Gkam84 I've been thinking about switching Roy for him as the poor lad must be tired by now and we are going to Italy - surely some Italian rider will have a go!. Roy saved me today as I chickened out of keeping Boasson Hagen and switched him for Frank. Lost me 2nd place on the day, but never mind as the leader faltered.

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Squiggle replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

Well i stayed with Tiralongo, mainly because i slept in this morning  14

If you'd slept in all of yesterday too you might have unexpectedly pulled a fast one should they drop the Col de Manse due to the rain!  3

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Gkam84 replied to Squiggle | 12 years ago
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Squiggle wrote:

If anyone has Hushovd then well done on your imminent 30points!

Wouldn't be so sure, Roy and EBH are up there  4

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Argy replied to arsene | 12 years ago
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arsene wrote:

Awesome stage. I have Hesjedal and Boasson Hagen in my team. Hesjedal deserved the stage win but I got more points with Hushovd winning.

Cracking stage for you mate!  1

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Squiggle replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

Well i played with putting Roy in, but i couldn't just click the "confirm" because i still think Tiralongo can do something, but it will be the day after i take him out

I have no-one in the break, but as per usual there are guys in it who i have just transferred out, getting a bit fed up with them and think they can see my team and are screwing me over  19  19

Are you leaving Tiralongo in for tomorrow?  39

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thefatcyclist replied to dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

Better get your scoring shoes on, GK...

Oh by the way Dave A.....  19

134 This years no hopers thefatcyclist 4235
135 Up and Doon Hills Gkam84 4233
136 Anaheim Dreamers capitalgull 4227
137 Educating Ricco dave_atkinson 4219

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thefatcyclist replied to dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

Norwich? How very DARE you.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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My problem is, all my riders apart from the sprinter are safe points tomorrow

Andy SCHLECK
Manuel QUINZIATO (might do something)
Rigoberto URAN URAN
Frank SCHLECK
Thomas VOECKLER
Arnold JEANNESSON
Pierre ROLLAND
Rein TAARAMAE

Now i just have to work out my last DS, i have the top 4 young riders aswell which wasn't ment, i've picked with an eye to stage 17 onwards

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Squiggle | 12 years ago
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Well I'm attacking tomorrow! Well I'm conservatively attacking tomorrow anyway! Sanchez, Gilbert, and Roy, all in! I wanted to go with Chavanel but it was just too big a risk.

We'll see.  39

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Well i'm really stuck, i've cut it down to 13 choices, in the DS, if you hit value, anyone between SÖRENSEN and DE GENDT, because i think there will be a break and i think at least 2 of those 13 will try and make it, but i also think someone from Saxo HAS to go in a break, their sponsors must be going mental because the only rider i've seen is Contador, the rest might aswell have quit after the team time trail

OR should i play it safe and take in Jelly, Roy or Delage  14

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dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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Cadel EVANS
Ben SWIFT
Rigoberto URAN URAN
Frank SCHLECK
Thomas VOECKLER
Andrey AMADOR BAKKAZAKOVA
Rui Alberto FARIA DA COSTA
Jérémy ROY
Jelle VANENDERT 

Jeremy Roy's had a day off - two, if you count plateau de beille  1 - so maybe he'll have another pop. who knows. certainly not me...

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Alan Tullett | 12 years ago
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@Gkam Jelly's looking good. Young and eager with something to defend, earnt me 41 points so far, so he's a nailed-on starter in my team.

Hope things go well tomorrow, the tour passes through my namesake town of Tulette (at 16km in), though I won't see it as the broadcasts usually start well after that.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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I'm stuck on my last transfer, I have kept Tiralongo in for long enough knowing his break away skills and he can make them work, but do i switch him out for the likes of Jelly man?

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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im hoping thor for the break again, meaning i have ditched a possible GC guy and no gilbert

Danielson
Hushovd
Uran
F Schleck
Voeckler
Taaramae
Vanendert
Peraud
Amador

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The Chaplin | 12 years ago
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Big gamble for tomorrow - dumped both Schleks in favour of Basso and Gilbert....

Ivan BASSO
Ben SWIFT
Rigoberto URAN URAN
Philippe GILBERT
Thomas VOECKLER
Arnold JEANNESSON
Vincent JEROME
Rein TAARAMAE
Jelle VANENDERT

Can see Gilbert going for it...just to be a pain in Cavendish's a**e!

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Psyclyst | 12 years ago
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Anyone having a punt on Faria da Costa?

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dave atkinson replied to Psyclyst | 12 years ago
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Psyclyst wrote:

Anyone having a punt on Faria da Costa?

well i wasn't going to, but i'm tempted now you mention it  1

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Right, i'm thinking there might have to be an experiment here  19

I suppose it all comes down to how comfortable you are on any set of tyres going down at speed then? Each have positive and negatives to them

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dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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AbudabiChris go and find two rubber erasers, a big fat one and a small one. Put them both on a flat surface and drag them sideways towards you with equal downwards pressure. Now which one took the least effort to pull?

Then go and do it on a wet surface, or an oily one, and you'll find it's the smaller eraser that's harder to shift. It's not that simple.

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dave atkinson | 12 years ago
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the narrower the tyres the less contact with the road surface, so yes, more speed, but less traction in the corners, therefore more chance of going down?

not really, no.

A smaller contact patch doesn't necessarily mean less traction. It's just the same force applied over a smaller area. depending on the mechanical properties of the tyre, this can make traction better or worse, and the effects will vary in different conditions.

Rolling resistance again isn't directly linked to the contact patch but more to the tyre casing's ability to deform in response to irregularities in the road surface. It's this deformation that absorbs energy that would otherwise go into your forward momentum. That's one reason why all the pros use 320TPI tubs.

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