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Lance Armstrong asks: Are Team Sky too strong to be clean?

Disgraced cyclist throws question out on Twitter - then claims he isn't making accusation...

Lance Armstrong has asked whether Team Sky “are too strong to be clean” after the British WorldTour outfit dominated yesterday’s Stage 10 of the Tour de France with Chris Froome winning to extend his overall lead, Richie Porte second and Geraint Thomas sixth.

Armstrong, banned from sport for life in 2012 and stripped of results including the seven editions of the Tour de France he won between 1999 and 2005, took to Twitter after the finish to pose a series of questions about the race.

In the first of those, he asked: “Clearly Froome/Porte/Sky are very strong. Too strong to be clean? Don’t ask me, I have no clue.”

Armstrong, whose US Postal team ran what the United States Anti-Doping Agency called “the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen,” added: “Don’t ask me

 

 

The tweet, which was favourited more than 1,800 times and has had in excess of 4,200 retweets, understandably grabbed a lot of attention and received dozens of replies, including this one, to which Armstrong gave what some might see as a rather disingenuous response.

 

 

A number of people replying said that given his history, Armstrong had no right to comment on the sport, while others applauded him for seeming to confirm their own suspicions.

One Twitter user, Stephen Hull, asked: “Why trade innuendo when you've openly attacked/sued people for doing the same to you?”

In his other tweets, Armstrong said: “2. The first mtn stage is always unpredictable. The day after a rest day is also unpredictable. Combine the two and its 10x,” adding that “Nibali's tour looks to be over.”

He concluded: “Finally, this @letour is NOT over. Those initial hard efforts that Sky put out today tend to add up and there is a ton of racing left.”

Some may be wondering why Armstrong should suddenly turn himself into a cycling pundit when in the years since his ban he has tended to keep a relatively low profile on Twitter when it comes to commenting about racing and the Tour in particular.

Well, the 43-year-old prefaced those tweets yesterday with one that read: “Getting lots of questions regarding today's first mountain stage @letour. Some thoughts to follow.”

So maybe it’s nothing more than someone who has ridden more Tour de France mountain stages than most, and more often than not at the front of the peloton, sharing their views.

But Armstrong’s latest tweet hints at another reason why he might be tweeting about the Tour right now – it was sent yesterday evening from Denver Airport, as he waited for his flight to join Geoff Thomas for two stages of his One Day Ahead charity ride this week.

He is due to ride the route of the 198.5km Stage 13 between Muret and Rodez tomorrow and the 178.5km Stage 14 from Rodez to Mende on Thursday.

If anyone had forgotten that Armstrong had planned to take part in the charity ride, they won’t now – and it’s guaranteed that after giving his thoughts on Twitter yesterday, the press will want him to expand on them.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Streetlife | 9 years ago
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Lance who ... ?

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Argos74 | 9 years ago
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I have no words.

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OhYesWell | 9 years ago
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the media fall for it every time, they should stop reporting what the has-been(or was he ever?) says. He's history and he really doesn't matter any more. Wise up road.cc

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hsiaolc replied to OhYesWell | 9 years ago
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OhYesWell wrote:

the media fall for it every time, they should stop reporting what the has-been(or was he ever?) says. He's history and he really doesn't matter any more. Wise up road.cc

Obviously he is not history. If anything he has more media coverage than all the riders. So wise up.

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Simon_MacMichael replied to OhYesWell | 9 years ago
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OhYesWell wrote:

the media fall for it every time, they should stop reporting what the has-been(or was he ever?) says. He's history and he really doesn't matter any more. Wise up road.cc

Um, yeah. There's a reason the media keeps reporting on Lance, and that reason is that people like you keep reading (and commenting on) articles about him. Stop reading the articles, and we'll stop covering him. Deal?

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ianrobo replied to Simon_MacMichael | 9 years ago
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Simon_MacMichael wrote:
OhYesWell wrote:

the media fall for it every time, they should stop reporting what the has-been(or was he ever?) says. He's history and he really doesn't matter any more. Wise up road.cc

Um, yeah. There's a reason the media keeps reporting on Lance, and that reason is that people like you keep reading (and commenting on) articles about him. Stop reading the articles, and we'll stop covering him. Deal?

excellent post. I hate LA for what he did but he is very relevant to all the doping discussions now. IMHO he has a lot to give that debate if he engages fully but he seems to want a carrot to do it.

Does he still have contacts in the modern peloton, of course be naive to think otherwise so why not use him. The problem is the Carrot maybe the lifting of the lifetime ban and that does sit very uneasy with me.

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HalfWheeler | 9 years ago
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The words of his outburst are meaningless. What was actually going on in LA's head when he tweeted:

"notice me!
notice me!
I'm over here!"

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ianrobo | 9 years ago
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confirmation

ProCyclingStats.com

@ProCyclingStats
Not only @francesco_reda @TeamIdea but also @maurosanta84 @teamaev positive on doping at Italian Championships #rtdf

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ianrobo | 9 years ago
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Well we know athletics is in deep trouble with doping with whole countries implicated - Jamaica, Kenya and Russia

We know the most dopers in this country are from the two rugby codes, mainly steroids (no surprise when u think about it).

Cycling though is forever tainted since Festina and until now with LA supercharging it.

I don't believe cycling is anyway near the worse offenders and if only Dr Fuentes patients apart from cycling were not blocked from release eh ?

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trekker12 | 9 years ago
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Er, coming from a nation (not GB) with limited resources and not enough funding to provide even his kit for the Commonwealth games where he Performed well enough to be seen by Barlowworld (and noticed by Brailsford) to offer his first pro contract shortly followed by his first grand tour.

All pretty much on his own merit from a backwater in cycling terms.

Not exactly lazy really.

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daddyELVIS replied to trekker12 | 9 years ago
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trekker12 wrote:

Er, coming from a nation (not GB) with limited resources and not enough funding to provide even his kit for the Commonwealth games where he Performed well enough to be seen by Barlowworld (and noticed by Brailsford) to offer his first pro contract shortly followed by his first grand tour.

All pretty much on his own merit from a backwater in cycling terms.

Not exactly lazy really.

...where did I call Froome lazy? I was merely pointing out that LA isn't lazy!! BTW, was that the same games where he crashed into an official straight off the TT start ramp?

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vonhelmet | 9 years ago
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Who cares what he thinks.

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Simmo72 | 9 years ago
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crap not give I a do thinks he what

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matttheaudit | 9 years ago
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Or is the subtext, "This is what I could have achieved had I not been lazy, seeking out illegal shortcuts rather than putting in the effort"

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daddyELVIS replied to matttheaudit | 9 years ago
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matttheaudit wrote:

Or is the subtext, "This is what I could have achieved had I not been lazy, seeking out illegal shortcuts rather than putting in the effort"

Hilarious! Road Race World Champ at 21 - please do tell where Froome's hard work and extraordinary talent had gotten him at 21?

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nicholassmith | 9 years ago
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I think it was pretty tongue-in-cheek from Armstrong, rather than an accusation.

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unclebadger replied to nicholassmith | 9 years ago
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nicholassmith wrote:

I think it was pretty tongue-in-cheek from Armstrong, rather than an accusation.

Totally  1

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kwi | 9 years ago
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To mimic the new SiS advert (Strange seeing that on telly.)
"But then, what does he know?"

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morseykayak | 9 years ago
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Two word reply to any Lance comment.

Travis Tygart

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unclebadger | 9 years ago
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Lance is no fool, he just knows how to work the media, he's about to start his One Day Ahead so it doesn't take a genius to work out he wants to raise his profile...

What better way to court the media than to make some provocative comments. Its certainly got everyone talking.

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Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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If he's as contrite as he claims, Lance Armstrong needs to fuck off and live under a rock.

And road.cc need to stop giving this troll oxygen. Yes, I know he generates page-views. At what cost? The reason he got away with it for so long was because he was worth so much press attention to the sport.

Stop reporting on him. Stop encouraging him. He's some guy with a twitter account who has won the Tour de France as many times as I have.

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ljblas replied to Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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Toro,
My dear old thing, you've hit the nail on the proverbial head.

Marvellous stuff!

Someone once said of Lance...
"C**tishness is a passing phase......C**titude remains deep within the bones"

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therealsmallboy | 9 years ago
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Lance is a weird bloke, a sociopath some have said. He feeds off the attention he gets and has a perverse relationship with this sport and people in general.

I think he needs to be ignored, regardless of whether he is right or wrong. He's a bad egg with low morals.

Don't reply to him on Twitter, don't employ him to commentate or work in cycling. Let him simmer in his own strange juices.

I think he still deserves a tip of the hat for continuing to work to raise money for charity, but even then I can't help but wonder if he's just so self-involved it's another way to boost his ego.

Basically he's a nooob.

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DominicC replied to therealsmallboy | 9 years ago
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Great post! Well said

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Pavery1 | 9 years ago
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Who knows if there are new doping techniques that go undetected by current testing. But if there are, it's highly unlikely that it's just Sky doing it.
Given the events of the last couple of years and that we now know riders can be tested positive years after their careers are finished. I'm going to believe it's clean until proved otherwise. Go Froome!

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KiwiHelen | 9 years ago
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My understanding is that the "Don't ask me, I have no clue" was in response to someone who had asked him his thoughts.

IMO the UCI etc are testing the riders, they monitor the riders... if there is something going on, they will find it. If they find nothing, then let it be. There has to be a point at which enough is enough otherwise why not say every single rider is doping? AND they still have to ride up those mountains. No substance will make that easy.

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ianrobo replied to KiwiHelen | 9 years ago
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KiwiHelen wrote:

AND they still have to ride up those mountains. No substance will make that easy.

nope which is why it Is all about recovery

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fukawitribe replied to ianrobo | 9 years ago
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ianrobo wrote:
KiwiHelen wrote:

AND they still have to ride up those mountains. No substance will make that easy.

nope which is why it Is all about recovery

..well it's not all about recovery, but that is rather important obviously.

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HarryTrauts replied to KiwiHelen | 9 years ago
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KiwiHelen wrote:

IMO the UCI etc are testing the riders, they monitor the riders... if there is something going on, they will find it. If they find nothing, then let it be. There has to be a point at which enough is enough otherwise why not say every single rider is doping? AND they still have to ride up those mountains. No substance will make that easy.

I agree with your point but I can't help wondering how much UCI were implicit in Armstrong's doping? It looks like they must have known.

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Jimbomitch | 9 years ago
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Poacher turned gamekeeper? Interesting.

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