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Woman suffers punctured lung and broken ribs as horse she was riding spooked by cyclist who undertook them without warning

Woman urges cyclists to learn how to share space safely with people on horseback after spending four days in hospital

A horse rider who was left with four broken ribs and a punctured lung when her horse was spooked by an undertaking cyclist says people on bikes need to be more aware of how to share the road safely with those on horseback.

The rider, whose name was given only as Karen, had almost returned to her yard after a ride on her horse Polly when the incident happened last Tuesday, the Horse & Hound reports. No details of the location were provided.

She said: “There was no traffic. I didn’t hear the cyclist and he didn’t shout to say he was passing – there were only inches between the edge of the road, him and me. 

“He came so close he was just about touching my stirrup. Polly got a fright and jumped off all four legs across the road.

“There was a lay-by across the road with a parked car and Polly went into the car and I came off. I remember not being able to breathe or speak.”

An occupant of one of two vehicles that stopped at the scene happened to be a nurse who works in A&E and called for an ambulance.

“I could see the cyclist stopped but he never came over and then he was gone,” Karen continued. “He left me.”

Her horse, a 15-year-old mare, was found at the stables.

After spending four days in hospital, Karen is now recovering at home.

She said: “I’m very sore even on painkillers. I left hospital on Saturday evening and still have a raspy voice from the chest drain they had to put in.

“It’s taking me a long time to get dressed and showered and I have my daughter staying with me for two weeks to help me,” she added.

The incident happened two months after a man taking part in the Windsor Triathlon, riding in the cycling leg of the event, undertook a horse rider at speed, making contact with her as he passed.

Several other people participating in the event also passed the horse and rider without slowing down, and subsequently organisers Human Race confirmed that one man had been banned from its events for life and another for 12 months.

> Police probing triathlon cyclist's undertake of horse rider

The episode was captured on the horse rider’s action camera and after road.cc’s initial coverage the story was picked up by the mainstream media.

The incident was also being investigated by Thames Valley Police, whom we have contacted for an update.

Rule 215 of the Highway Code, among other things, instructs road users to “Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking,” and to “Always pass wide and slowly.”

More extensive guidance on how cyclists and horse riders can share the road safely has been issued by the British Horse Society (BHS) and is endorsed by British Cycling, and is covered in a road.cc article that can be found by following the link below.

> How to pass horse riders safely on your bike

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Pushing50 replied to hawkinspeter | 5 years ago
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davel wrote:
vonhelmet wrote:

Is it hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse? No, not at all. Hence it seems absurd to pour scorn on the horse rider.

The scorn on here is directed at Don et al for suggesting something that runs contrary to the reported narrative. No scorn directed at the rider... Just skepticism. 

It isn't hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse at all. 

But neither is it hard to believe that a thrown rider, having called the police after the horse bolted, might blame A N Other for the spooking, particularly when no description of the cyclist is provided and the police don't even mention them.

Whichever camp you're in boils down to your own biases, and probably not even controversial, nasty biases at that. Posters having a personal pop at Don for not taking the story at face value need to have a word with themselves. 

I don't understand why a thrown rider would find the need to blame someone for the spooking. As someone else has stated in this thread (sorry, can't remember who said it and can't be bothered to re-read it all), a horse can be spooked by crisp packets, so I just don't get why the rider couldn't just say "my horse just got spooked, I don't know why".

People having a personal pop at Don are probably just wanting to get into an argument with Don for the fun of it.

Maybe (and this is purely a personal theory - no evidence so cannot be seen as my belief or the TRUTH) she caused a lot of damage to the parked car with her horse, knew the owner of the parked car, is liable for causing the damage running to the costs of thousands and is not insured for third party liability. She remembers a recent story of those pesky cyclists undertaking a horse, so to relieve her and her horse of full responsibilty she says that the horse was spooked by an undertaking cyclist. 

It also seems to me that the time the police were called was 20 minutes or so after sunset. It would have been dark by that time. Was she wearing reflectives, hi viz, had lights. Did the so called cyclist. 

This is all irrelevant though as it is not Karen's word against any others, it is just Karen's word and has been reported as the truth. If you want to believe it then fine, but it is beyond belief that doubters have been condemned for smelling a rat.

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hawkinspeter replied to Pushing50 | 5 years ago
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Pushing50 wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:
davel wrote:
vonhelmet wrote:

Is it hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse? No, not at all. Hence it seems absurd to pour scorn on the horse rider.

The scorn on here is directed at Don et al for suggesting something that runs contrary to the reported narrative. No scorn directed at the rider... Just skepticism. 

It isn't hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse at all. 

But neither is it hard to believe that a thrown rider, having called the police after the horse bolted, might blame A N Other for the spooking, particularly when no description of the cyclist is provided and the police don't even mention them.

Whichever camp you're in boils down to your own biases, and probably not even controversial, nasty biases at that. Posters having a personal pop at Don for not taking the story at face value need to have a word with themselves. 

I don't understand why a thrown rider would find the need to blame someone for the spooking. As someone else has stated in this thread (sorry, can't remember who said it and can't be bothered to re-read it all), a horse can be spooked by crisp packets, so I just don't get why the rider couldn't just say "my horse just got spooked, I don't know why".

People having a personal pop at Don are probably just wanting to get into an argument with Don for the fun of it.

Maybe (and this is purely a personal theory - no evidence so cannot be seen as my belief or the TRUTH) she caused a lot of damage to the parked car with her horse, knew the owner of the parked car, is liable for causing the damage running to the costs of thousands and is not insured for third party liability. She remembers a recent story of those pesky cyclists undertaking a horse, so to relieve her and her horse of full responsibilty she says that the horse was spooked by an undertaking cyclist. 

It also seems to me that the time the police were called was 20 minutes or so after sunset. It would have been dark by that time. Was she wearing reflectives, hi viz, had lights. Did the so called cyclist. 

This is all irrelevant though as it is not Karen's word against any others, it is just Karen's word and has been reported as the truth. If you want to believe it then fine, but it is beyond belief that doubters have been condemned for smelling a rat.

That's plausible, but I doubt that it would materially affect the car damage/insurance issue. There would be little doubt that the damage to the car was caused by the horse, so the car owner/insurer would be looking to recover costs from the rider or her parents - they wouldn't be particularly interested in why the horse went into the car. To recover costs, the horse rider would then seek to sue the cyclist, so having an imaginary cyclist doesn't actually help at all. Certainly, if I was the car owner, I would seek recompense from the horse-rider rather than trying to find an unknown cyclist.

I really don't see how hi-viz/reflectives makes any difference to the circumstances - horses are easy to see.

I don't understand what the contention is about as it doesn't seem implausible that a cyclist did something stupid. It seems more likely to me that a cyclist spooked a horse rather than a rider coming off and making up a story about a cyclist.

I'm just not seeing any particular issues with this story and so I'd go with accepting the story at face value - it's the simplest explanation.

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Pushing50 replied to hawkinspeter | 5 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:
Pushing50 wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:
davel wrote:
vonhelmet wrote:

Is it hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse? No, not at all. Hence it seems absurd to pour scorn on the horse rider.

The scorn on here is directed at Don et al for suggesting something that runs contrary to the reported narrative. No scorn directed at the rider... Just skepticism. 

It isn't hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse at all. 

But neither is it hard to believe that a thrown rider, having called the police after the horse bolted, might blame A N Other for the spooking, particularly when no description of the cyclist is provided and the police don't even mention them.

Whichever camp you're in boils down to your own biases, and probably not even controversial, nasty biases at that. Posters having a personal pop at Don for not taking the story at face value need to have a word with themselves. 

I don't understand why a thrown rider would find the need to blame someone for the spooking. As someone else has stated in this thread (sorry, can't remember who said it and can't be bothered to re-read it all), a horse can be spooked by crisp packets, so I just don't get why the rider couldn't just say "my horse just got spooked, I don't know why".

People having a personal pop at Don are probably just wanting to get into an argument with Don for the fun of it.

Maybe (and this is purely a personal theory - no evidence so cannot be seen as my belief or the TRUTH) she caused a lot of damage to the parked car with her horse, knew the owner of the parked car, is liable for causing the damage running to the costs of thousands and is not insured for third party liability. She remembers a recent story of those pesky cyclists undertaking a horse, so to relieve her and her horse of full responsibilty she says that the horse was spooked by an undertaking cyclist. 

It also seems to me that the time the police were called was 20 minutes or so after sunset. It would have been dark by that time. Was she wearing reflectives, hi viz, had lights. Did the so called cyclist. 

This is all irrelevant though as it is not Karen's word against any others, it is just Karen's word and has been reported as the truth. If you want to believe it then fine, but it is beyond belief that doubters have been condemned for smelling a rat.

That's plausible, but I doubt that it would materially affect the car damage/insurance issue. There would be little doubt that the damage to the car was caused by the horse, so the car owner/insurer would be looking to recover costs from the rider or her parents - they wouldn't be particularly interested in why the horse went into the car. To recover costs, the horse rider would then seek to sue the cyclist, so having an imaginary cyclist doesn't actually help at all. Certainly, if I was the car owner, I would seek recompense from the horse-rider rather than trying to find an unknown cyclist.

I really don't see how hi-viz/reflectives makes any difference to the circumstances - horses are easy to see.

I don't understand what the contention is about as it doesn't seem implausible that a cyclist did something stupid. It seems more likely to me that a cyclist spooked a horse rather than a rider coming off and making up a story about a cyclist.

I'm just not seeing any particular issues with this story and so I'd go with accepting the story at face value - it's the simplest explanation.

 

I agree. I am not saying that it did not happen and I think it probably did. What I do not like is that some have seen fault with what is being presented and have been ridiculed. 

The reflectives etc was an aside as cyclists are always reported as wearing/not wearing in articles when they are injured and this was not reported here.

Another theory of mine is that the horse was spooked by alien squirrels returning to their planet Nut in a flying saucer. My word against no one others so must be true

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hawkinspeter replied to Pushing50 | 5 years ago
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Pushing50 wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:
Pushing50 wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:
davel wrote:
vonhelmet wrote:

Is it hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse? No, not at all. Hence it seems absurd to pour scorn on the horse rider.

The scorn on here is directed at Don et al for suggesting something that runs contrary to the reported narrative. No scorn directed at the rider... Just skepticism. 

It isn't hard to believe that a cyclist would undertake and scare a horse at all. 

But neither is it hard to believe that a thrown rider, having called the police after the horse bolted, might blame A N Other for the spooking, particularly when no description of the cyclist is provided and the police don't even mention them.

Whichever camp you're in boils down to your own biases, and probably not even controversial, nasty biases at that. Posters having a personal pop at Don for not taking the story at face value need to have a word with themselves. 

I don't understand why a thrown rider would find the need to blame someone for the spooking. As someone else has stated in this thread (sorry, can't remember who said it and can't be bothered to re-read it all), a horse can be spooked by crisp packets, so I just don't get why the rider couldn't just say "my horse just got spooked, I don't know why".

People having a personal pop at Don are probably just wanting to get into an argument with Don for the fun of it.

Maybe (and this is purely a personal theory - no evidence so cannot be seen as my belief or the TRUTH) she caused a lot of damage to the parked car with her horse, knew the owner of the parked car, is liable for causing the damage running to the costs of thousands and is not insured for third party liability. She remembers a recent story of those pesky cyclists undertaking a horse, so to relieve her and her horse of full responsibilty she says that the horse was spooked by an undertaking cyclist. 

It also seems to me that the time the police were called was 20 minutes or so after sunset. It would have been dark by that time. Was she wearing reflectives, hi viz, had lights. Did the so called cyclist. 

This is all irrelevant though as it is not Karen's word against any others, it is just Karen's word and has been reported as the truth. If you want to believe it then fine, but it is beyond belief that doubters have been condemned for smelling a rat.

That's plausible, but I doubt that it would materially affect the car damage/insurance issue. There would be little doubt that the damage to the car was caused by the horse, so the car owner/insurer would be looking to recover costs from the rider or her parents - they wouldn't be particularly interested in why the horse went into the car. To recover costs, the horse rider would then seek to sue the cyclist, so having an imaginary cyclist doesn't actually help at all. Certainly, if I was the car owner, I would seek recompense from the horse-rider rather than trying to find an unknown cyclist.

I really don't see how hi-viz/reflectives makes any difference to the circumstances - horses are easy to see.

I don't understand what the contention is about as it doesn't seem implausible that a cyclist did something stupid. It seems more likely to me that a cyclist spooked a horse rather than a rider coming off and making up a story about a cyclist.

I'm just not seeing any particular issues with this story and so I'd go with accepting the story at face value - it's the simplest explanation.

 

I agree. I am not saying that it did not happen and I think it probably did. What I do not like is that some have seen fault with what is being presented and have been ridiculed. 

The reflectives etc was an aside as cyclists are always reported as wearing/not wearing in articles when they are injured and this was not reported here.

Another theory of mine is that the horse was spooked by alien squirrels returning to their planet Nut in a flying saucer. My word against no one others so must be true

Now that's a theory I can get behind!

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Voodoo Child | 5 years ago
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A local guy here in hayle spooked two horses up the road last month. He rode up silently on two girls out hacking on a narrow back lane, the first horse shot sideways alarming the lead horse, the lead horse then kicked out hitting the paramedic riding his bike square in the jaw. The guy was traveling too. Stopped him dead, knocked out cold.. 

He earned himself A trip with one of his work colleagues,  Many missing teeth, his broken jaw wired, and he missed his holiday abroad. 

As usual his bike had no bell and he didn’t let the riders know he was coming. I know both riders and they were shaken up by the amount of blood. 

Cant feel sorry for the twat on the bike, brought it on himself. 

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vonhelmet replied to Voodoo Child | 5 years ago
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As usual his bike had no bell and he didn’t let the riders know he was coming.

I’d be as wary of using a bell given I can’t predict how a horse will react to that sound. I’d be more confident that a horse would be used to hearing people speaking, so if I’m coming up behind a horse I’ll tell the rider that I’m there and that usually seems to go down just fine.

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Mb747 replied to vonhelmet | 5 years ago
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vonhelmet wrote:
Voodoo Child wrote:

As usual his bike had no bell and he didn’t let the riders know he was coming.

I’d be as wary of using a bell given I can’t predict how a horse will react to that sound. I’d be more confident that a horse would be used to hearing people speaking, so if I’m coming up behind a horse I’ll tell the rider that I’m there and that usually seems to go down just fine

And if the hourse is spooked because it hears a sudden noise behind them?

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ChrisB200SX replied to Voodoo Child | 5 years ago
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Voodoo Child wrote:

A local guy here in hayle spooked two horses up the road last month. He rode up silently on two girls out hacking on a narrow back lane, the first horse shot sideways alarming the lead horse, the lead horse then kicked out hitting the paramedic riding his bike square in the jaw. The guy was traveling too. Stopped him dead, knocked out cold.. 

He earned himself A trip with one of his work colleagues,  Many missing teeth, his broken jaw wired, and he missed his holiday abroad. 

As usual his bike had no bell and he didn’t let the riders know he was coming. I know both riders and they were shaken up by the amount of blood. 

Cant feel sorry for the twat on the bike, brought it on himself. 

Nice first post. Really, brought it on himself? For being nearer to a horse than was, in hindsight, not dangerous, whatever that distance is for these two particular horses. I wouldn''t be surprised if that cyclist is now claiming a very large compensation sum from the horse riders.

Maybe this "Karen" brought it on herself for riding an easily spooked horse on the road without wing mirrors and body armour?!

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Voodoo Child replied to ChrisB200SX | 5 years ago
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ChrisB200SX wrote:
Voodoo Child wrote:

A local guy here in hayle spooked two horses up the road last month. He rode up silently on two girls out hacking on a narrow back lane, the first horse shot sideways alarming the lead horse, the lead horse then kicked out hitting the paramedic riding his bike square in the jaw. The guy was traveling too. Stopped him dead, knocked out cold.. 

He earned himself A trip with one of his work colleagues,  Many missing teeth, his broken jaw wired, and he missed his holiday abroad. 

As usual his bike had no bell and he didn’t let the riders know he was coming. I know both riders and they were shaken up by the amount of blood. 

Cant feel sorry for the twat on the bike, brought it on himself. 

Nice first post. Really, brought it on himself? For being nearer to a horse than was, in hindsight, not dangerous, whatever that distance is for these two particular horses. I wouldn''t be surprised if that cyclist is now claiming a very large compensation sum from the horse riders.

Maybe this "Karen" brought it on herself for riding an easily spooked horse on the road without wing mirrors and body armour?!

 

Both riders under 14.. Both wearing hi biz and head cameras. Footage passed to the police. No action taken. 

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Pitbull Steelers | 5 years ago
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If you go onto the horse and hound page you'll see the following paragraph which is in the account and it appears road cc has missed off 

"A spokesman for Cheshire Police said: At 9.05pm on 14 August police were called to Newton Road in Winwick, Warrington following reports of a rider being thrown from her horse. The horse had bolted from the scene but was found safe and well. The rider was assessed by paramedics and was taken to hospital"

 

 

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Pushing50 replied to Pitbull Steelers | 5 years ago
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Pitbull Steelers wrote:

If you go onto the horse and hound page you'll see the following paragraph which is in the account and it appears road cc has missed off 

"A spokesman for Cheshire Police said: At 9.05pm on 14 August police were called to Newton Road in Winwick, Warrington following reports of a rider being thrown from her horse. The horse had bolted from the scene but was found safe and well. The rider was assessed by paramedics and was taken to hospital"

 

 

Yes I have read the H&H report. Where does it say that they are looking for a cyclist and for witnesses to come forward? The police were called following reports that a rider had been thrown from her horse. Was the reason because the horse was spooked by a cyclist, plastic bag, puddle or just bad horsemanship? Even if it was a cyclist and even if the story is true, it still does not warrant the quick reactions of some to condemn another posters doubts. Still an unvalidated STORY in my opinion until the reporting gives some factual evidence.

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ktache | 5 years ago
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No offence meant, there has been a previous double posts with a time gap some time ago, which I had found a bit weird.  Thought this was a new one.

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ktache | 5 years ago
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It's another one of those weird double posts where there is a proper time gap between them.

8 minutes.

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Pushing50 replied to ktache | 5 years ago
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ktache wrote:

It's another one of those weird double posts where there is a proper time gap between them.

8 minutes.

No, my mistake. I copied and pasted the original after changing the word "condone" to "commend" (I am tired) and unfortunately did not realise that I had saved the original draft to be posted. I am a fuktard doofus!!!!

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Pushing50 | 5 years ago
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Why the vitriol towards don simon?  I simply do not understand. He has more than just a point here. There is NO evidence that this incident ever took place. There is no camera footage (the footage stated in the article relates to the tri-athlete incident), there were no other vehicles (from the report: quote She said: “There was no traffic. I didn’t hear the cyclist and he didn’t shout to say he was passing – there were only inches between the edge of the road, him and me. unquote) therefore no witnesses of the incident. It comes two months after the tri-athlete incident and is reported in the Horse and Hound may who have an agenda along with the British Horse Society to promote safe passing of horses by cyclists.There is no description of the cyclist. Was it a child, adolescent, young adult, middle aged, old aged, male, female, lycra wearing, commuter, road biker, bmx'r (you get my drift?).

Simply put, from what I have read, this is nothing more of a story that any one of us could have made up. Don simon has only questioned the validity of the story and my initial reaction was the same as his. At least road.cc have video evidence to back up their close pass of the day feature to give it credibilty.

People are falling into the trap of believing what they read from an article written after a complaint from Karen (why no surname) and no mention of any police involvement or calls for witnesses to come forward. 

I too smell a rat and will happily commend don simon on this occassion for not believing what he read. 

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Pushing50 | 5 years ago
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Why the vitriol towards don simon?  I simply do not understand. He has more than just a point here. There is NO evidence that this incident ever took place. There is no camera footage (the footage stated in the article relates to the tri-athlete incident), there were no other vehicles (from the report: quote She said: “There was no traffic. I didn’t hear the cyclist and he didn’t shout to say he was passing – there were only inches between the edge of the road, him and me. unquote) therefore no witnesses of the incident. It comes two months after the tri-athlete incident and is reported in the Horse and Hound may who have an agenda along with the British Horse Society to promote safe passing of horses by cyclists.There is no description of the cyclist. Was it a child, adolescent, young adult, middle aged, old aged, male, female, lycra wearing, commuter, road biker, bmx'r (you get my drift?).

Simply put, from what I have read, this is nothing more of a story that any one of us could have made up. Don simon has only questioned the validity of the story and my initial reaction was the same as his. At least road.cc have video evidence to back up their close pass of the day feature to give it credibilty.

People are falling into the trap of believing what they read from an article written after a complaint from Karen (why no surname) and no mention of any police involvement or calls for witnesses to come forward. 

I too smell a rat and will happily condone don simon on this occassion for not believing what he read. 

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ktache | 5 years ago
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I ride through a fair bit of horse poop.  Could be worse, it is better than dog poop.  But if it were a requirement for horseists to clear up after their animals as has now become the norm for dog owners then there are going to be some very large bin liners of horse poop hanging from trees and fences.

Never understood why the dog walkers pick up warm, fresh dog filth, just to leave it wrapped in plastic, left in the wild, seemingly for all eternity.

Ride through a bit of cow poop too, but it's from belted galloway, left on the ranges to maintain heathland so is fairly dry, unlike some of the dairy cow slop I have had to ride through.

And I'm a proper townie..

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nickW1 | 5 years ago
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I am a bit odd here I ride both my Horse and my bike on the road, there is not just horse riders or cyclists there are both good and bad in all road users, riding a horse on the road is diffilcult riding a bike on the road is difficult, sometimes my horse will move out wider than i want, same as I sometimes move out on a bike to avoid potholes etc, there are not just riders or cyclists we are all road users some better than others 

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Argos74 | 5 years ago
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I treat horses and their riders then same way as I do kids on bikes. Ease up on the speed. Give 'em plenty of room, be willing to stop if they're coming the other way and there's not much room. It's nice to wave, smile and say hi. I got at least two stables near me, and I meet a fair number of them on and around the banks of the Mersey.

And once they're out of the way and the road or trail is clear, let rip.

Hoping the injured horse rider heals up quick and is back in the saddle soon.

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Richard D | 5 years ago
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I’m hoping that you don’t eat beef.

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davel replied to Richard D | 5 years ago
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Richard D wrote:

I’m hoping that you don’t eat beef.

Oh-ho-ho really, I'm hoping that you don't <insert irrelevant activity that also has shit as a side effect here> too. 

I know what the response is going to be. I also know that I can't really be arsed avoiding the obvious, steaming pile of a trap you're attempting to lay. But I'm going to sidestep it anyhow, simply because eating farm-produced meat has precisely fuck-all to do with the points I'm repeatedly making about a hobby dumping shit in a public place.

Unless you can show me a cattle farmer who does it all for fun and then dumps the cow shit on the paths by Dunham Massey, or any public paths or roads I suppose. Then I'll happily land in your trap, with both feet. 

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vonhelmet | 5 years ago
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It’s amazing the double standards people are happy to apply. Close passing driver causes injury to cyclist? Bastard driver. Close passing cyclist causes injury to horse rider? Bastard horse. We saw the same thing in the coach crash thread. Driver goes too fast, can’t stop in time and hits cyclist? Bastard driver. Cyclist goes too fast, can’t stop in time and hits coach? Bastard coach driver. Nope. Nope nope nope.

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BehindTheBikesheds replied to vonhelmet | 5 years ago
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vonhelmet wrote:

It’s amazing the double standards people are happy to apply. Close passing driver causes injury to cyclist? Bastard driver. Close passing cyclist causes injury to horse rider? Bastard horse. We saw the same thing in the coach crash thread. Driver goes too fast, can’t stop in time and hits cyclist? Bastard driver. Cyclist goes too fast, can’t stop in time and hits coach? Bastard coach driver. Nope. Nope nope nope.

Cyclists do not and never have in the history of bikes been on the road react like a horse to others in the vicinity and with the unpredictability they display, not even close. I say this as someone whose partner has had horses since she was 10. 

'Nero' was a lovely horse, a proper character but he would go fucking mental at a crisp packet or plastic bag in the bushes, so much so it threw her and she was injured and badly shaken, cyclists/bikes he was fine with, she decided that she would hack him off the road because he was too much of a risk to others.

In my honest opinion that is the right thing to do, her new horse she hacks on the road, he doesn't go mental even when a cyclist is close by.

Police won't accept events without evidence, this person has no evidence, how many times have the police basically said to cyclist 'fuck off', literally millions, or it would be millions but people on bikes have given up reporting becauase we know plod don't do fuck all.

As above, too many times people have attributed blame to people on bikes when it's actually them at fault, the stats back this up even when the motorcentric police are investigating they can't make the facts go away.

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Pitbull Steelers | 5 years ago
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Fookin idiots, imagine if that had been a cyclist and a car or lorry had gone past there would be hell on. 

Happily most posters are in agreement that its not the done thing. 

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Bmblbzzz | 5 years ago
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don simon fbpe replied to Bmblbzzz | 5 years ago
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Bmblbzzz wrote:

Here it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Are you trying to tell me that last Tuesday was on or before June 17th?

EDIT: Sad fuck seen and ignored.

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Pitbull Steelers replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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don simon wrote:
Bmblbzzz wrote:

Here it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Are you trying to tell me that last Tuesday was on or before June 17th?

 

Well it just goes to show there are more than a few dicks on forum's, sorry bikes devil

 

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Bmblbzzz replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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don simon wrote:
Bmblbzzz wrote:

Here it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Are you trying to tell me that last Tuesday was on or before June 17th?

Ah, sorry. Hadn't realised there'd been another horse-cyclist crash. I was wondering why the story had come up again – I'm now wondering how come someone was so stupid as to try close-passing a horse on the inside when there's just been so much publicity about the previous incident. 

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don simon fbpe replied to Bmblbzzz | 5 years ago
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Bmblbzzz wrote:
don simon wrote:
Bmblbzzz wrote:

Here it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Are you trying to tell me that last Tuesday was on or before June 17th?

Ah, sorry. Hadn't realised there'd been another horse-cyclist crash. I was wondering why the story had come up again – I'm now wondering how come someone was so stupid as to try close-passing a horse on the inside when there's just been so much publicity about the previous incident. 

That's one of the reasons why I'm skeptical that this happpened as the rider said, there was enough publicity for the serious cycling world to know about it (even the ones here that struggle to understand what they read, good to see a few of them in this thread). If the rider has footage, then let's see in its full context. It would be awful to discover that the horse has a history of being spooked/difficult or the rider not having the skill/experience to have controlled it properly.

I love these threads and am warmed by the personal insults, because it makes me realise that I'm not as thick as those that hurl the insults. I bet a good portion don't even know why they're hurling them. Keep it up thickfucks.

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atgni replied to Bmblbzzz | 5 years ago
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Bmblbzzz wrote:

Here it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

That is not the incident being reported.

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