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Carlisle driver who hit cyclist on roundabout and fled scene dodges driving ban

Said he needed his car to see his aunt and get to work

A Carlisle driver who hit a cyclist when entering a roundabout and then drove off has avoided a driving ban. 63-year-old Gary Dalton pleaded guilty to careless driving and failing to stop after an accident. He was handed a 12-month community order and had 10 points added to his driving licence and was ordered to pay £85 prosecution costs plus an £85 victim surcharge.

The News and Star reports that the collision occurred on Boundary Road, Currock, on November 24 2018 when Dalton failed to see a cyclist when entering a roundabout.

"The cyclist ended up on top of the bonnet of his vehicle,” said Julie Hansel, prosecuting. "This resulted in some injury – a swelling down to his leg."

Dalton drove off without checking on the victim, but a passer-by witnessed the incident, took the car's number plate and passed it to police.

"Officers went to his home address and he made a full and frank admission,” said Hansel. "During the course of his interview, he said he had pulled out but checked it was clear before pulling out."

Dalton told police he had panicked and driven off.

"He accepted that he was not observant enough," said Hansel. "That was the reason he hadn't seen the cyclist."

"I'm very sorry,” said Dalton in court. “I’m normally very careful. It's just one of those things."

Dalton argued that he needed to drive to get to his job as a security guard at the Cavaghan & Gray factory. He also said that a ban would adversely affect his aunt, who he visits most days on the other side of Carlisle.

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Jimmy Ray Will | 5 years ago
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What seems to be forgotten is that he was in line for a ban, not because he hit a cyclist, but because he left the scene of an accident.

If he'd been a man, taken responsbilities for his actions at the time, he would probably be looking at no more thana small fine and 3-6 points.

He knowingly chose to evade justice, and now having failed in that quest, has still managed to escape punishment despite being found guilty of rolling the dice to save himself from punishment. 

It beggars belief. 

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alansmurphy | 5 years ago
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I commuted 9 miles this morning which means I could have shot 2 motorists and got to keep my gun?

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carytb | 5 years ago
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Common guys get serious. Cycling to work and to his Aunties with people like him on the road. Far to dangerous.

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HoarseMann | 5 years ago
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Other options include the bus, it’s only 28mins and a direct route. As he’s over 60 he qualifies for a free bus pass too. Or he could just retire. I really wish courts would spend a couple of minutes checking facts.

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thehill | 5 years ago
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would i be right in saying it only takes one person to trigger a complaint about sentencing for a review to be triggered, anyone know how you go about that process

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FluffyKittenofT... | 5 years ago
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Agree with the little onion and levermonkey.  This idea that people 'need' a car so can't be banned is getting out-of-hand.  Some sort of 'distance inflation' has clearly set in.  I don't belive the 'extraodinary hardship' loophole was intended to cover cases like this.

 

In the past I've had more than one job that involved a walking commute of 3-4 miles. I never realised I was experiencing extreme hardship - it was just vastly more reliable than the bus.

 

Judges and magistrates need a kick up the backside (they won't be able to kick back, because clearly they have forgotten how to use their legs).

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brooksby replied to FluffyKittenofTindalos | 5 years ago
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FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

Agree with the little onion and levermonkey.  This idea that people 'need' a car so can't be banned is getting out-of-hand.  Some sort of 'distance inflation' has clearly set in.  I don't belive the 'extraodinary hardship' loophole was intended to cover cases like this.

 

In the past I've had more than one job that involved a walking commute of 3-4 miles. I never realised I was experiencing extreme hardship - it was just vastly more reliable than the bus.

 

Judges and magistrates need a kick up the backside (they won't be able to kick back, because clearly they have forgotten how to use their legs).

Id guess that the problem is that these people think it *is* extreme hardship, because they seriously can't imagine not driving.,,

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levermonkey | 5 years ago
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Correct me if I'm wrong but...

Even if you include Kingstown and Houghton; Carlilse can't be more than 6 or 7 miles east to west, and 7 to 8 miles north to south.

So, why does he need a car again?

Even if he lost his car and didn't want to cycle (because of motons like him) he could walk to where he wants to go.

Amble = 2mph/Steady walk = 3mph/Brisk walk = 4mph

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the little onion | 5 years ago
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The newspaper article linked puts his address as "Chestnut hill", and his workplace as Cavaghan and Gray factory. According to Google Maps, that's 3.8 miles

 

The fucker can walk. He does NOT need a car for that.

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HoarseMann replied to the little onion | 5 years ago
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the little onion wrote:

The newspaper article linked puts his address as "Chestnut hill", and his workplace as Cavaghan and Gray factory. According to Google Maps, that's 3.8 miles

 

The fucker can walk. He does NOT need a car for that.

Actually, looking at the state of him, he probably does need a car for that. Security guard at McVites - too many biscuits?

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Rick_Rude | 5 years ago
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I'll call on is Aunt card and raise him children under 10 and a mother having cancer treatment.  I'd be able to run down a full house of cyclists with those excuses to keep my licence. 

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burtthebike | 5 years ago
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Driving is a right; riding a bicycle isn't.

Driving is a right; no-one else has rights on the road.

Driving is a right; living isn't.

Just when did a driver's right to carry on driving become more important than other people's lives?

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Russell Orgazoid | 5 years ago
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"Just one of those things"?

what does that even mean?

You left that rider and didn't give a fuck.

What a piece of shit.

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Hirsute | 5 years ago
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Drivers seem to plead poverty for getting off bans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40862975p

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 5 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Drivers seem to plead poverty for getting off bans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40862975p> 

 

And yet riding a bike is cheaper than driving a car. Even if you buy a very nice bike. I suppose maybe a brief could argue about it if you have a sixty mile commute or something: otherwise, meh...

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handlebarcam | 5 years ago
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Like those schemes to put HGV drivers on bikes, so that they see things from the cyclist's perspective, someone should organize a one-day course for magistrates and judges in which they get run over by a car. Even wrapped up in padding, and with the speed limited to around 20mph, my guess is it would result in far fewer drivers getting to keep their licences just because of the inconvenience of having to take the bus.

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Legs_Eleven_Wor... | 5 years ago
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I assume that his victim will administer justice.  

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brooksby replied to Legs_Eleven_Worcester | 5 years ago
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Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

I assume that his victim will administer justice.  

Where DO you keep your stock of paving slabs?

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Mungecrundle | 5 years ago
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"Just one of those things".

Fuck you mate.

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brooksby | 5 years ago
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I'm sorry, but how big does he think Carlisle is? He could probably walk it, let alone cycle it. Mind you, there might be other people on the road who think that knocking someone over and leaving the scene is "just one of those things". Not impressed by the justice system (again!)

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the little onion | 5 years ago
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Are there no buses or taxis in Carlisle? Maybe he could cycle across Carlisle to see his aunt.

 

Disgraceful. If he can't operate a vehicle safely, he should not be operating a vehicle. 

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