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"Just build bike lanes": Autonomous gondola pods are "here to revolutionise transport" — but not everybody's convinced; Shedgate 2: Cyclist forced to dismantle "beautiful" bike shed; Worrying drink driving figures; Ineos Hotspur? + more on the live blog

The shortest day of the year but no excuses for the shortest live blog... Dan Alexander will be bringing you your Wednesday fix

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21 December 2022, 17:33
Have a great evening!

The live blog will be back same time and place tomorrow, potentially with Shedgate updates, an accurate translation for Wout's cryptic Strava caption and just about anything and everything else bike-related and worth procrastinating from work over...

See you then!

21 December 2022, 17:28
More monorail reaction... sorry I mean... *checks notes* Swyft Cities' "innovative mobility project"

Plenty of Simpsons memes going around in response to this one...

If you can't beat 'em, join them...

Doesn't mean I or 90 per cent of the repliers are sold though... 

21 December 2022, 09:03
"Just build bike lanes": Autonomous gondola pods are "here to revolutionise transport" — but not everybody's convinced

First it was Elon Musk saying he'd send traffic underground, now it's this transport tech company who reckon a network of autonomous gondola pods is the way forward... which is going down as well as you might expect...

Founded by former Google employees, Swyft Cities is, the company says, a way to "bring innovative mobility to public and private real estate projects". Selling the gondola dream as modular, sustainable, low cost and efficient (like, I don't know, a bicycle?) Swyft shows computer-generated images of what a network could look like by "freeing up land" and taking journeys to the sky.

Gondola system (screenshot Swyft Cities/Twitter)

In short, we're seeing a snarled up road below, and pods above. So, how did the good people of cycling Twitter react to this "innovative" transport solution...

21 December 2022, 17:22
Dutch cycle busses
21 December 2022, 15:21
Wout van Aert and new teammate Dylan van Baarle plot a big one

Check out who was checking out Roubaix today...

 

With none other than...

 

A ride name which apparently cryptically means 'It is a thick device' (according to Google Translate)... anyone with even the slightest modicum of Dutch-speaking abilities please get yourself in the comments ASAP...
 

21 December 2022, 14:59
"I found the bins on the driveway more ugly and out of place than the shed"

Time for some of your comments on the day's events, starting with Shedgate 2...

hirsute: "I found the bins on the driveway more ugly and out of place than the shed."

EddyBerckx: "The bike shed looks great and you can guarantee that front garden looks neater than most in that road... especially if front 'drives' are allowed."

Let me introduce you to the rest of the street...

Salisbury bike shed location

HoarseMann: "In the bike shed article on the Salisbury Journal link, in the comments someone has noted that there is a planning officer at the council with the same name as one of the complainants. This complainant refers to council policy 'CP57' in their complaint, which seems to infer a bit of knowledge about the process.

"Then another complainant explains they wouldn't have said anything before they were invited to comment! Does have a slight whiff of some insider knowledge of the planning process. All above board I would guess, even if that was the case.

"As someone else suggests, just plonk a battered caravan there instead."

Literally around the corner...

Salisbury bike shed location

brooksby: "I can't see what's wrong with that bike shed anyway — looks neat and tidy, and it's way smaller than a parked car."

 Elsewhere on the live blog, Sniffer points out "I don't think Tao or Geraint are going to be pleased" about Ineos Grenadier 4x4's new partnership with the other north London lot...

While eburtthebike had some thoughts on the ingenious gondola...

"It may be a tribute to human ingenuity that so many otherwise intelligent people keep re-inventing the wheel with increasingly clever alternatives to the private car, but it's also depressing that they can't see the answer when it's been obvious for so many years. Swyft Cities are merely the latest in a very long line of transport systems looking for a problem to solve, when the solution is right in front of their eyes.

"It's rather like electric cars, they won't solve any of the problems of mass car use and will create serious problems of their own, but try getting the media to mention anything else. 

"Buses, trams, cycling, walking, all vastly better solutions than e-cars but are pretty much banned from the media. I listen to quite a bit of Radio 4 and yet again, e-cars featured on You and Yours, for the 3,000,001th* time; I still haven't heard them feature bikes.

"*An exaggeration of course; I added the 1."

21 December 2022, 13:36
A familiar tale...
21 December 2022, 12:18
But what if I need to move a sofa?

Sofa-r so good... 

21 December 2022, 12:00
One in ten Brits admit to knowingly drink driving home from Christmas party
Beer taps (copyrighht Simon MacMichael)

Research from iCompario suggests that millions of Brits have driven home drunk from their work's Christmas party. The concerning figures come as the result of a survey involving 1,000 UK adults who drive and found that 17 per cent of men admitted to drink driving at Christmas, versus six per cent of women.

When extended to the wider population, the survey results suggest, iCompario says, that as many as 4.5 million UK drivers have broken the law by driving under the influence after a Christmas event, while up to 1.6 million (four per cent) have knowingly driven home over the limit after a Christmas party on more than one occasion.

> Drunk driver who crashed into cyclist, breaking his neck, walks free from court

The findings also highlighted that men are much more likely to drink drive at Christmas than women. Almost one in five men have done so, compared to just over one in 20 women (six per cent). One in seven (13 per cent) admitted that whilst they haven’t driven home from a festive do over the legal limit, they have got into the car with someone who was.

21 December 2022, 11:16
2022 Specialized Allez Sprint | Dream build staff bike
21 December 2022, 10:41
Tottenham Hotspur announce the Ineos Grenadier as Official 4x4 Vehicle Partner

So, the supposed Manchester United-supporting billionaire who was confusingly interested in buying Chelsea now pumps money into Tottenham Hotspur through a '4x4 Vehicle Partner' (because every top sports team needs one of them)...

It's almost like Sir Jim Ratcliffe ain't a football fan and cares more about his business' bank balance?! Surely not...

I wouldn't go asking the Ineos boys for any tips on scoring penalties, mind...

> "We'll stick to what we do best!": Geraint Thomas won't be getting a World Cup call up on this evidence 

21 December 2022, 09:54
Shortest day of the year

On the plus side we're on the way back to those long summer evenings... just three months of indoor training to go...

21 December 2022, 09:23
Shedgate 2: Cyclist forced to dismantle "beautiful" bike shed

The Salisbury Journal reports a resident has been ordered to dismantle his "beautiful bespoke wooden bike shed" following complaints from neighbours and an unsuccessful planning application.

Nick Arnold told the Journal, who have pictures of the shed in their coverage, he built the £2,000 shed "in good faith" as he had "nowhere to store our bikes" but now will be forced to "pay someone to dismantle it".

The city council described the structure as "unsightly", with neighbours branding it an "eyesore" and "poorly integrated with the house" during the planning application.

Built by a professional carpenter the shed was, Mr Arnold said, "sustainable and environmentally friendly but we've been told it's not in keeping with the rest of the house".

We've been here before...

While the latest 'shedgate' protagonist doesn't intend to appeal the decision, last May we covered the story of a family from Leicester who were finally granted planning approval for their similar bike storage shed.

Leicester shed via Facebook

That decision came after the story gained widespread coverage and even the Mayor of Leicester expressed support for the family, saying the city council's planning officers "got it wrong".

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Regarding Spuds Official 4x4 partner. I can't tell from the picture but does the pedestrian killing device also have Kumho tyres on being as that is the clubs official tyre partner?

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Sniffer replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I don't think Tao or Geraint are going to be pleased.

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stonojnr replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Nope Bridgestones, as per the standard model Grenadier.

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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So, ambulance strikes, eh?  And NHS managers and ministers are recommending people avoid taking unncecessary risks (with contact sports and ice skating specifically mentioned).  I seem to recall that cycling was also mentioned the other day.  Did I miss a memo, but shouldn't they also be recommending that people don't drive anywhere too...?

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Will Quince did say to avoid unnecessary car journeys. As we know, all car journeys are necessary and no bike journeys are necessary.

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IanMK replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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I don't think the guy in the Beetle that overtook me this morning got the memo. I was doing around 55mph in 60 so no doubt he had to be somewhere urgently. Having said that, 3 roundabouts later he was still only a few meters in front.

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Hirsute replied to IanMK | 1 year ago
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A beetle you say. Was it near bristol ?

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IanMSpencer replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Probably Abbey Road.

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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hirsute wrote:

A beetle you say. Was it near bristol ?

Don't look at me  I'm taking my life in my hands (acc to Govt ministers) and riding the bike in today.

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essexian replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Most people die in bed, so going out for a bike ride seems a sensible thing to do. 

 

Save the NHS....ride a bike (and don't ever, ever vote Tory).

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hawkinspeter replied to essexian | 1 year ago
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essexian wrote:

Most people die in bed, so going out for a bike ride seems a sensible thing to do. 

 

Save the NHS....ride a bike (and don't ever, ever vote Tory).

 Bed helmets! If it saves one life...

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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I would wear one but I'm worried about bed helmet hair.

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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I was ok until 2 mins from home courtesy of white van man (and in a 30 ).

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Driver didn't get the memo about lack of ambulances so squeezes between me and the oncoming car.

 

 

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JustTryingToGet... replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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hirsute wrote:

Driver didn't get the memo about lack of ambulances so squeezes between me and the oncoming car.

 

 

They got the memo. They will be fine, they don't give a shit that you won't get an ambulance.

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Driver didn't get the memo about lack of ambulances so squeezes between me and the oncoming car

You're Essex aren't you? Cheer me up and tell me in a couple of months that there was a proper penalty (advice letter and joke course don't count!). This is the usual means of close-passing round here as well: foot down and if you come across oncoming vehicles just carry on

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chrisonabike replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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wtjs wrote:

... foot down and if you come across oncoming vehicles just carry on

"Established foot" (on the accellerator).

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Hirsute replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Status: Warning letter sent

 

Utterly pathetic

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Status: Warning letter sent

Crikey! Offence 21st, warning letter sent 22nd. In Lancashire, even before the present policy of not responding at all, you would never find out which, from the list of options including nothing at all, pseudo-penalty was applied. 

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Hirsute replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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This is where they claim success

https://saferessexroads.org/extra-eyes/results/

Also safer roads tweets on safety

"Santa might race around delivering presents, but you don’t need to. Watch your speed, let’s keep everybody safe this Christmas."

It's just they don't give a shit about cyclists.

 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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I had similar with driver along here today. Parked cars were still there as well and an oncoming car. Driver also decided that as there was no speed signs, that meant there was no limits so the went the fastest he could do.

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SimoninSpalding replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Apparently we shouldn't get so drunk that we need A&E because of the strikes. Spoilsports, that has completely ruined my afternoon's work plans...

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IanMK replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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SimoninSpalding wrote:

Apparently we shouldn't get so drunk that we need A&E because of the strikes. Spoilsports, that has completely ruined my afternoon's work plans...

How else are we supposed to celebrate Saturnalia?

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HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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In the bike shed article on the Salisbury Journal link, in the comments someone has noted that there is a planning officer at the council with the same name as one of the complainants. This complainant refers to council policy "CP57" in their complaint, which seems to infer a bit of knowledge about the process.

Then another complainant explains they wouldn't have said anything before they were invited to comment!

Does have a slight whiff of some insider knowledge of the planning process. All above board I would guess, even if that was the case.

As someone else suggests, just plonk a battered caravan there instead.

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brooksby replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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I can't see what's wrong with that bike shed anyway - looks neat and tidy, and it's way smaller than a parked car.

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wycombewheeler replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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brooksby wrote:

I can't see what's wrong with that bike shed anyway - looks neat and tidy, and it's way smaller than a parked car.

the photo above is of a bike shed in leicester, the one banned in salisbury is a bit more substantial, and constructed as a lean to against the house. Still looks better than plonking a decrepit caravan on the space and using it for bike sotrage.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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I did notice the "years" was less then two as not on Streetview in Sept2020. Seems the complaint doesn't just include the "bikeshed" but other work they did to fill in the garage to make it another room. But yes, in theory a "mobile" structure could be used in its place to upset the rest of the "rich" street.

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HoarseMann replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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actually, a caravan might be a bit impractical. You want something with a door on the end ideally and plenty of storage space. Maybe this could work, even got a sink and table for bike maintenance!:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265970725609

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Secret_squirrel replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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There's a reference in the article to the shed's roof.  I dont think this is a planners against bike sheds problem per se.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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I see Leith Walk has made the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-64039385

I mention it as it is a reminder of how ineffective police scotland are and because of the normalising comments of the transport convener:

"She politely put her indicator on as she waited to drive off the pavement onto the road so she knew some of her highway code."

Sod the pedestrians on the actual pavement.

 

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